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    Democrats need to let go of purity tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Democrats need to let go of purity tests.
    They also need to get rid of Pelosi. She has led the House Dems incompetently for almost 15 years, and is an easy talking point against Democratic congressional candidates. "Vote for me, or Pelosi will be in charge again!"

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    The entire Democratic party needs to take a step back and re-evaluate whats going wrong. For one thing, the loss of the blue-dog Dems led to the GOP taking over most of the state legislatures. And then the Berniecrats came along and brought the purity tests to a new level. You can't run a Bernie-level progressive in red districts and expect to win much. Campaigning on raising the minimum wage will not have any impact on the wealthy voters who make up a large chunk of the 6th. Also, just campaigning on "fight Trump" doesnt seem to be working, just like "vote against Trump" didnt work last November.

    And while I do think Pelosi needs to step back, they dont need to get rid of her. Because if its not Pelosi they will find someone else as their scarecrow. I mean I saw flyers out here which tried to scare voters away from Ossoff because of John Lewis, and hes a hero of the Civil Rights era.
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    The draft of the Senate bill to replace the ACA has been released.
    It is everything you would expect:
    -attempts to effectively defund Planned Parenthood
    -reduces and then eliminates the Medicaid expansion
    -premium support seems to be coming in the form of credits which are less generous
    -includes a waiver which allows states to offer plans that do not cover essential services (as enumerated in the ACA); allows them to offer cheaper plans with high deductibles
    and much more; it is everything the GOP promised, including a rather beautiful tax reduction for the wealthy.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/senat...details-2017-6

    It is a draft, so it can change before going to a vote. McConnell wishes for a short time frame for debate/amendment/passage so changes could be limited.
    It has been attacked for not going far enough (hawks think it does not go far enough) and going to far (moderates in GOP feel it is cruel)
    It will be a balancing act to ensure the votes needed to get passage, and that's only if they can keep the bill under the no filibuster reconciliation method; the defunding of Planned Parenthood may have to be separated.

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    'Who the heck is George Will', but the line
    Today, conservatism is soiled by scowling primitives whose irritable gestures lack mental ingredients.
    is fantastic trash talk.
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    Not Trump, but an article about a certain brand of libertarian ideology and the efforts of an oligarchic fifth column to enlist white supremacy in ensuring the supremacy and domination of capital over labor.
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    Summary of the CBO's findings with a link on the page to the text:

    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752
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