Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Choxorn]

Hot Takes:

Dp101's posts are good

Csargo's are scummy

Zack, Pizza, Winston, and Monty all being themselves, more or less

[Sooh]

Vote count:

Pizza (3): Winston Hughes, Zack, Csargo

Slaan (2): GH, Kagemusha

Zack (2): Montmorency, Reinoe

Logic(1): Pizza,

Reinoe (1): Dp101

Not voting (8): Fredwood, El Barto, Cuthillius, Manasi, Slaan, Choxorn, Logic, Xiahou,

With 17 players there are 9 to hammer.


EOD1:

[Manasi]

WALLS OF TEXT ON PAGE FIVE

Zack's good, Csargo is good, DP is good.

Pizza slightly scummy for read on reinoe after they had only posted like 3 times sassing Zack.

Speaking of which I'm going to scum read reinoe for wall of texting.

Just because I think it'll make voxx mad.

[Askthepizzaguy]

WALLS OF TEXT ON PAGE FIVE

Zack's good, Csargo is good, DP is good.

Pizza slightly scummy for read on reinoe after they had only posted like 3 times sassing Zack.

Speaking of which I'm going to scum read reinoe for wall of texting.

Just because I think it'll make voxx mad.

INCORRECT!

[Manasi]

I feel like Slaan is less comfortable than he should be (given that he's played with a lot of people in this game), so chances he randed wolf in his first org game pretty high.

[Manasi]

I chuckled at Winston's posts. +1 for him

Gonna get ready for class and proceed to ignore al of class.

[Zack]

Did you chuckle at any of my posts

[Manasi]

Did you chuckle at any of my posts

Yes bby I chuckled at all of them.

I thought that went without saying.

[Zack]

Not a fan of cuth in this page

He says nothing except trying to imply dp is being wolfy without actually saying it

But he should know this isn't wolfy at all for him

I'll stop here before someone complains more about me posting too much, unless someone responds

[Manasi]

Not a fan of cuth in this page

He says nothing except trying to imply dp is being wolfy without actually saying it

But he should know this isn't wolfy at all for him

I'll stop here before someone complains more about me posting too much, unless someone responds

Pls post more.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yeah, dp's lock town. Take this read to the bank.

I also think it's highly likely that one or more of the people pushing him are mafia, because I literally came out and said the exact thing that Dp did w/r/t Pizza in fewer words and I'm taking ~no heat for it.

For reference:

Yeah, partly because I don't really feel like translating his posts into English at this point. What about you?

Whatcha gonna do now?

[Zack]

Pls post more.

[Fredwood]

Sup Jerks. So I read all this thread...lol@me I even viewed 7 minutes of the two minute videos posted.

The blowback confused, suss of Pizza for doing what he's doing feels almost concerted and deliberately obtuse to get the early discredit on him. The style is atypical, but I don't feel the content is atypical. (The one game I've played). Interesting how quickly the stance was backed off. I do have an issue with his town read of Rein, but will get into that later.

I like Zack, I also think he's villa, with a conditional hedge so I can move back my knight to starting position later. I've only played with town Zack, and he seems more solvey early in this game then those others. I hesitate to go full town core on him, but I'm not going to vote off top poster day 1.



Reinoe

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Given Zack commenting on pretty much everyone except Logic, he's either scum with him or mason with him or neighbors with him. I think they're talking to each other.

Regardless, Zack's quality vs quantity isn't very good at all. There's almost no gamesolving other than OMGUS.

Unvote: Logic

Vote: Zack

ATPG and GH probably town.

This post isn't accurate, if anything Zack is attacking or picking at people who are town reading him. He attacked both Pizza and GH's town read of him. If you want to get into how attacking your town reads is easy town equity, Well too late, Zack already pointed that out for easy town equity. Rein's post at best means he's not actually reading Zack's posts.


Csargo's agreement with Rein doesn't feel right either, he agrees with the inaccurate part of his post but not the rest of it?

It feels like a stretch to townread CS for his "I'm bad at eveyrthing" line after getting nuked by Zack in an argument. DP seems especially limpber

Can I say the DP/Rein interaction feels fake AF, from either one or both sides I'm not sure which. Read in spoiler if you're interested, otherwise Wall o' Text.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Rein drops for names in his hot take read post. Has associative reads based on Logic as if Logic has already flipped, but not pushing the actual logic flip. (I think Logic is scum, and I think Zack is scum for not talking to Logic, therefore I shall vote Zack...the F?) Meanwhile mentions Pizza and GH as town with no reasoning.

DP begs for him to drop a read on himself, and Rein has this bajillion word post he drops on DP about lazy and faking confusion...so you had that many thoughts on DP but didn't bring it up in your first post? During all this time he's ignoring Zack's question about his town reads and Monty's question about Winston. As if your town reads aren't just important for viewing your progression as town reads.

Vote: Reinoe

[Zack]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Sup Jerks. So I read all this thread...lol@me I even viewed 7 minutes of the two minute videos posted.

The blowback confused, suss of Pizza for doing what he's doing feels almost concerted and deliberately obtuse to get the early discredit on him. The style is atypical, but I don't feel the content is atypical. (The one game I've played). Interesting how quickly the stance was backed off. I do have an issue with his town read of Rein, but will get into that later.

I like Zack, I also think he's villa, with a conditional hedge so I can move back my knight to starting position later. I've only played with town Zack, and he seems more solvey early in this game then those others. I hesitate to go full town core on him, but I'm not going to vote off top poster day 1.



Reinoe


This post isn't accurate, if anything Zack is attacking or picking at people who are town reading him. He attacked both Pizza and GH's town read of him. If you want to get into how attacking your town reads is easy town equity, Well too late, Zack already pointed that out for easy town equity. Rein's post at best means he's not actually reading Zack's posts.


Csargo's agreement with Rein doesn't feel right either, he agrees with the inaccurate part of his post but not the rest of it?

It feels like a stretch to townread CS for his "I'm bad at eveyrthing" line after getting nuked by Zack in an argument. DP seems especially limpber

Can I say the DP/Rein interaction feels fake AF, from either one or both sides I'm not sure which. Read in spoiler if you're interested, otherwise Wall o' Text.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Rein drops for names in his hot take read post. Has associative reads based on Logic as if Logic has already flipped, but not pushing the actual logic flip. (I think Logic is scum, and I think Zack is scum for not talking to Logic, therefore I shall vote Zack...the F?) Meanwhile mentions Pizza and GH as town with no reasoning.

DP begs for him to drop a read on himself, and Rein has this bajillion word post he drops on DP about lazy and faking confusion...so you had that many thoughts on DP but didn't bring it up in your first post? During all this time he's ignoring Zack's question about his town reads and Monty's question about Winston. As if your town reads aren't just important for viewing your progression as town reads.

Vote: Reinoe

[Logic]

also

logic i think i've always assumed you've played chess because y'know

I haven't played chess since about the time that avatar was made. So, a decade or so? I've never considered myself very good. I'm capable of beating my parents and

i did think dp's been a bit weird and the reaction test was really... stiff and ???

Hmm. Why do you get a feeling that no one else seems to?


Logic's 10-minute take:
DP is town. DP is not teamed with Pizza, or Zack.

Csargo and Pizza are not teamed. One could be a wolf, but I don't think both.

Pizza feels really weird from normal. I can usually understand him a little, but here, he feels like he is playing 9 moves ahead to my 4. Not sure if he's on my team or not. I stand by my "seat of the pants" statement from earlier.

Cuth jumps in with some slight shade at DP. Is he suspicious of DP?

Kage shows up with what looks like a lazy vote on Slaan. Possibly a joke, but I think there's a more than reasonable chance that Kage is mafia.

Reinoe is the current target of DP's ire, and he is voting for me, (full disclosure, that that vote isn't being counted because it isn't bolded)

His vote on me looks like it stems only from Pizza's accusation. Not sure if sheeping, or he has other reasons for voting for me.

[b]Vote: Kagemusha[b/]

[Csargo]

Sup Jerks. So I read all this thread...lol@me I even viewed 7 minutes of the two minute videos posted.

The blowback confused, suss of Pizza for doing what he's doing feels almost concerted and deliberately obtuse to get the early discredit on him. The style is atypical, but I don't feel the content is atypical. (The one game I've played). Interesting how quickly the stance was backed off. I do have an issue with his town read of Rein, but will get into that later.

I like Zack, I also think he's villa, with a conditional hedge so I can move back my knight to starting position later. I've only played with town Zack, and he seems more solvey early in this game then those others. I hesitate to go full town core on him, but I'm not going to vote off top poster day 1.



Reinoe


This post isn't accurate, if anything Zack is attacking or picking at people who are town reading him. He attacked both Pizza and GH's town read of him. If you want to get into how attacking your town reads is easy town equity, Well too late, Zack already pointed that out for easy town equity. Rein's post at best means he's not actually reading Zack's posts.


Csargo's agreement with Rein doesn't feel right either, he agrees with the inaccurate part of his post but not the rest of it?

It feels like a stretch to townread CS for his "I'm bad at eveyrthing" line after getting nuked by Zack in an argument. DP seems especially limpber

Can I say the DP/Rein interaction feels fake AF, from either one or both sides I'm not sure which. Read in spoiler if you're interested, otherwise Wall o' Text.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Rein drops for names in his hot take read post. Has associative reads based on Logic as if Logic has already flipped, but not pushing the actual logic flip. (I think Logic is scum, and I think Zack is scum for not talking to Logic, therefore I shall vote Zack...the F?) Meanwhile mentions Pizza and GH as town with no reasoning.

DP begs for him to drop a read on himself, and Rein has this bajillion word post he drops on DP about lazy and faking confusion...so you had that many thoughts on DP but didn't bring it up in your first post? During all this time he's ignoring Zack's question about his town reads and Monty's question about Winston. As if your town reads aren't just important for viewing your progression as town reads.

Vote: Reinoe

Yeah, I am dead. Rest in Peace me.

[reinoe]

Sup Jerks. So I read all this thread...lol@me I even viewed 7 minutes of the two minute videos posted.

The blowback confused, suss of Pizza for doing what he's doing feels almost concerted and deliberately obtuse to get the early discredit on him. The style is atypical, but I don't feel the content is atypical. (The one game I've played). Interesting how quickly the stance was backed off. I do have an issue with his town read of Rein, but will get into that later.

I like Zack, I also think he's villa, with a conditional hedge so I can move back my knight to starting position later. I've only played with town Zack, and he seems more solvey early in this game then those others. I hesitate to go full town core on him, but I'm not going to vote off top poster day 1.



Reinoe


This post isn't accurate, if anything Zack is attacking or picking at people who are town reading him. He attacked both Pizza and GH's town read of him. If you want to get into how attacking your town reads is easy town equity, Well too late, Zack already pointed that out for easy town equity. Rein's post at best means he's not actually reading Zack's posts.


Csargo's agreement with Rein doesn't feel right either, he agrees with the inaccurate part of his post but not the rest of it?

It feels like a stretch to townread CS for his "I'm bad at eveyrthing" line after getting nuked by Zack in an argument. DP seems especially limpber

Can I say the DP/Rein interaction feels fake AF, from either one or both sides I'm not sure which. Read in spoiler if you're interested, otherwise Wall o' Text.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Rein drops for names in his hot take read post. Has associative reads based on Logic as if Logic has already flipped, but not pushing the actual logic flip. (I think Logic is scum, and I think Zack is scum for not talking to Logic, therefore I shall vote Zack...the F?) Meanwhile mentions Pizza and GH as town with no reasoning.

DP begs for him to drop a read on himself, and Rein has this bajillion word post he drops on DP about lazy and faking confusion...so you had that many thoughts on DP but didn't bring it up in your first post? During all this time he's ignoring Zack's question about his town reads and Monty's question about Winston. As if your town reads aren't just important for viewing your progression as town reads.

Vote: Reinoe

You're right. My town reads are not as important to me as my scumreads. And yes, I'm deliberately not answering Zack's question about said townreads. Although I disagree with what you're saying. DP seems genuinely frustrated in a "caught for the wrong reasons" kind of way and I'm sincere about getting tired of him constantly talking about being confused.

Although I didn't call logic sum for not talking to Zack. I didn't give a reason for why logic is scum (it's for 215 which seems so out of place). I said they're talking to each other. My reasons for thinking logic is suspicious is entirely separate.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Csargo's agreement with Rein doesn't feel right either, he agrees with the inaccurate part of his post but not the rest of it?

Correct!

Vote: Reinoe

INCORRECT!

[Askthepizzaguy]

ISO of Cuth

With others who mention him once he starts posting.

i have no hot takes to drop

feel like getting >twice as much sleep as i did last night and coming back to this thread is probably the best course of action

i did think dp's been a bit weird and the reaction test was really... stiff and ???

around the time reinoe had pushed on dp, and dp got upset.

also

logic i think i've always assumed you've played chess because y'know

Logic has/had a chess themed avatar at one point on his home forum.

not much of a push

i think the push itself is p lazy

but yeah someone voted you and you ~steppedish out of thread?

Possibly thinking dp got rattled by pressure.

fair enough

why do you think you got particularly upset over that in particular in particular in particular?

Trying to understand that reaction.

Not a fan of cuth in this page

He says nothing except trying to imply dp is being wolfy without actually saying it

But he should know this isn't wolfy at all for him

I'll stop here before someone complains more about me posting too much, unless someone responds

All on page 5 at 80ppp.

[Dp101]

Ok, so after that very helpful meta-analysis, I’m willing to clear Xiahou for the foreseeable future. From my POV, at this point I’d go Csargo->Cuth->Slaan.

[Zack]

I feel like Slaan is less comfortable than he should be (given that he's played with a lot of people in this game), so chances he randed wolf in his first org game pretty high.

Have you played together before?

[Manasi]

Have you played together before?

Yeah like several times iirc.

[Slaan]

I feel like Slaan is less comfortable than he should be (given that he's played with a lot of people in this game), so chances he randed wolf in his first org game pretty high.

Care you elaborate? Why do you think I wasnt comfortable?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I feel like Slaan is less comfortable than he should be (given that he's played with a lot of people in this game), so chances he randed wolf in his first org game pretty high.

Meh. This is a little iffy.

[Zack]

Hot Takes:

Dp101's posts are good

Csargo's are scummy

Zack, Pizza, Winston, and Monty all being themselves, more or less

These takes are pretty lukewarm.

[Csargo]

Hot Takes:

Dp101's posts are good

Csargo's are scummy

Zack, Pizza, Winston, and Monty all being themselves, more or less

Oh well.

[reinoe]

Hot Takes:

Dp101's posts are good

Csargo's are scummy

Zack, Pizza, Winston, and Monty all being themselves, more or less

More than a few people have ssaid DP's posts are good/townie. Why though? I'm not ruling out that he has a style I just don't like so enlighten me if you could.

[Winston Hughes]

More than a few people have ssaid DP's posts are good/townie. Why though? I'm not ruling out that he has a style I just don't like so enlighten me if you could.

chox can be extremely pure as scum, so I certainly wouldn't jump to call him town by any kind of tonal read.

[Logic]

And where does the thought of Slaan not being a wolf stems from? Do you know him from other games/forums or what are you basing on that assumption?

I read his iso. To me, it looks more like a townie toeing the waters on a new group of people than someone with hidden information.

Tempting, but the problem with lynching pizza D1 is that it's usually only possible when he's town.

Winston, this... looks odd. It sounds to me like a willingness to lynch pizza, but an admission that you know he's town.

[Winston Hughes]

Winston, this... looks odd. It sounds to me like a willingness to lynch pizza, but an admission that you know he's town.

Just experience talking. As much as I want to keep pizza under pressure, I'm leery of actually lynching him because, historically, it's been a very bad move.