Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
Getting back in the 'scum get rekt' days of domination, let's hope.

Next candidate:

*Zack is there for potential D1 spew and his weirdness today and wrt GH. Even if the latter could be interpreted (as I did) diminishing the likelihood of pairing, AORN there is not much reason to preserve Zack.
If he's town he's always getting mislynched now, so let's save him the trouble. I was willing to hear him out today and he didn't do anything but try to stop yet another mafia lynch, so. He's always next and I'm sorry but that's the way it's gotta be.

[]Choxorn and Manasi for mild scumminess and lack of engagement. However, low-info due to lack of connections.
Precisely why I wouldn't hit there next, but next after. I can somehow believe that this is Manasi somehow totally not giving a damn, but it also looks a lot like the whole scum team is dying, and they have no real urge to solo hero the rest of the game.

It's true until it's not true. Check and see.

*Manasi was worse than Chox today at least, being irrelevant and offering isolated support for GH.
Chox looks generic and kinda bad, but, he also could have legitimately been the townie they tried to lynch.

Thing is, I think it's about 50/50 that this is a Fleeing Coward / Banjo (iirc) situation, (or a reddboiler/vaimes) where there were two scummos up for the lynch, and what mafia was trying to do was switch the lynch from one preferred scummo to a different scummo, for credit and to shift the momentum away from town's control.

What I mean is, I've been in situations where it was supremely advantageous to scums that they derail a lynch on a scumbag and even push the lynch onto a different scumbag. Not even because other scumbag is just a goon, but because then they're the ones that get credit for the lynch, the townies who did good solving get NOTHING for their efforts, the other scumbag doesn't even get looked at for a good long time after that (if ever), and in both games I'm referencing, the scumbag that they switched the lynch off of survived to the end and it won the game.

Because to most townies, a goon is worth the same as any other goon, but it's not true. What matters is momentum and narrative.

You can lose 3 scumbags and still win this game with the last scumbag, but only if you're in fair control of the momentum and the narrative.

If the bad guys get lynched in the right order, it's easy to solve the game. You just move on to the next scummiest person one at a time, and there's no defense.

If the bad guys get lynched in the WRONG order, the scums control the momentum and the narrative.

This is what is happening this game, to a high degree of likelihood.

It's either that or choxorn is the townie they needed to stop the lynch on Logic.

But he can also easily be scum here, and only when they realized that bussing choxorn was less and less likely, and how scummy they looked defending Logic, they abandoned that plan and hoped for some GH inspired CFD chaos. With all due respect to his wolf game, he CFDs a lot as town and that's his meta.

It's "similar". A lot of good wolves think they can get away with similar even if it's scummy.

He can successfully say that he likes to cfd a lot as town, and that he only did it scummily that one time, and that's enough to fool some peoples.

But that's just gaming his own meta. He knows he should be able to get away with it, but here, the worst happened and he was called out on it by everyone, because it didn't work, and it was executed badly and scummily.

Worse, everything I'm saying about the narrative is coming true. They've totally lost all control of the game. Town is running laps around them now.

Xiahou is lock town at this point.

Fredwood is lock town at this point.

We just keep getting more and more people who can't be scum. So they couldn't bus GH here today either. One person maybe.

Zack/Manasi look the worst for obvious reasons.

This game is now a huge minefield of spew because as amazing as GH is, his posts are gonna leave some spew. I know his town game enough to know that dp push wasn't townie of him, and the game looked to be on easy mode as I'm re-reading.

A ton of you saw the same thing, that's the only reason why a hammer even happened here, that's usually terrible. But we can still talk, and that's looking like a huge pro-town advantage.

*Chox had even less to say D2; may have some spew in him wrt Zack, but it's debatable what it would mean
He's gotta be checked, he's just not urgent because he's consensus suspicious, and because my town is getting too big to ever lose the game.

*Barto is offering the most out of the lurkers, but almost all standard Barto fluff. I don't see why Pizza has more confidence in him than that.
Morale and humor. Barto doesn't feel like a dead man walking.

Cuth has some reasonable offerings and potential. I'll defer to Pizza on Xiahou, though in fact he has plenty of scope to develop. They shouldn't be up for consideration tomorrow.
Logic almost fully spewed Cuth. There's room for disagreement there and I'm sadface he didn't do anything this game, but late game lynch at the earliest.

Xiahou is almost lock town now as predicted. Zack flips town and Xiahou is locked up and you throw away the key on that.

You can also tell he's not trying to control the narrative. He just has his guess, like an elite Autolycus game.

Barto also felt at times like the low hanging fruit that some iffy people were pushing.

Use the time, folks, start from the beginning of day one and find reasons why people are townie. That's more important than finding the scums because I think they're cornered and the only way they can escape is if you break ranks and fall upon each other!