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    Wealthy progressives pay big buxxx to not have a choice in the food they get from Blue Apron-style deliveries and/or their local farm CSA program. Setting aside for a moment that government cheese won't be at that level of quality, is there anything about a CSA subscription that lacks dignity if it was part of a government welfare program?

    We're talking about people who's kids already get breakfast and lunch at school. Is the lack of a deep and refined menu for those government meals an affront as well?
    First of all, Hello.

    School lunches are absolute trash. We fail feeding kids nearly as bad as we do preventing them from getting shot.

    Let's set aside the dignity comment. I'll wheel back around to it.

    This is a supply chain nightmare. The USDA has made assumptions that it would be cheaper for the states to pick and ship these goods rather than have people make their own food choices. Warehouses are expensive, labor is expensive, Trucks are expensive, Drivers are expensive. So instead of using the existing corporate supply chains, the USDA thinks it will be cheaper to make and maintain these things out of whole cloth. Good luck to them. They mentioned blue apron in their press release, blue apron is having massive supply chain problems right now. It won't work but that's about par for the course for this presidents business ventures.

    Every reputable study on SNAP spending habits has shown it to be roughly in line with American spending on food as a whole. It absolute right wing propaganda the propagates the myth of steak and lobster being charged to the EBT card. 65 percent of SNAP beneficiaries are under 18, over 60, or disabled. That is hardly the picture of the able bodied on the dole.

    These boxes will be filled with simple carbs, simple sugars, and chock full of grains. This is food that makes people sick. It is not designed to be healthy. It is designed as form of control. It is designed to shame those who partake in the welfare system. It is not feasible to kick out the illegal immigrants, starve the poor, or kill the sick. However, you can shame and shackle them until their voices are crushed and that is the goal of the actors bankrolling both sides of the aisle.

    Even from a purely self interested stand point, it should be noted, Ideas don't start revolutions, hungry people do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    First of all, Hello.

    School lunches are absolute trash. We fail feeding kids nearly as bad as we do preventing them from getting shot.

    Let's set aside the dignity comment. I'll wheel back around to it.

    This is a supply chain nightmare. The USDA has made assumptions that it would be cheaper for the states to pick and ship these goods rather than have people make their own food choices. Warehouses are expensive, labor is expensive, Trucks are expensive, Drivers are expensive. So instead of using the existing corporate supply chains, the USDA thinks it will be cheaper to make and maintain these things out of whole cloth. Good luck to them. They mentioned blue apron in their press release, blue apron is having massive supply chain problems right now. It won't work but that's about par for the course for this presidents business ventures.

    Every reputable study on SNAP spending habits has shown it to be roughly in line with American spending on food as a whole. It absolute right wing propaganda the propagates the myth of steak and lobster being charged to the EBT card. 65 percent of SNAP beneficiaries are under 18, over 60, or disabled. That is hardly the picture of the able bodied on the dole.

    These boxes will be filled with simple carbs, simple sugars, and chock full of grains. This is food that makes people sick. It is not designed to be healthy. It is designed as form of control. It is designed to shame those who partake in the welfare system. It is not feasible to kick out the illegal immigrants, starve the poor, or kill the sick. However, you can shame and shackle them until their voices are crushed and that is the goal of the actors bankrolling both sides of the aisle.

    Even from a purely self interested stand point, it should be noted, Ideas don't start revolutions, hungry people do.
    All I have to say is Blue Apron = Scam Apron. I'm looking at the Beef Medallion meal. Four beef medallions likely each the size of a pack of cards, two potatoes, broccoli, a lemon, an onion and minor amounts of garlic and green onion... all for $20.
    If you are middle class and don't live in a food desert...take the 25 min trip to Ralphs and buy it yourself.


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    Mueller Indictment (full text via bbc):

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43091945
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    As always, Americans are so lonely on top of their hill that they don't understand this is something that happens all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good View Post
    Wealthy progressives...
    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    ...It is not feasible to kick out the illegal immigrants, starve the poor, or kill the sick. However, you can shame and shackle them until their voices are crushed and that is the goal of the actors bankrolling both sides of the aisle...
    I like how Americans have been convinced that there are two sides, and either one sees the other as rich and trying to profit off of them, while they are poor, righteous and hardworking.
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    So the indictments dropped: So what?
    Somehow it's a little hard to believe Russia will extradite anyone.
    If it's for domestic consumption fine, most people will realize that it is practically meaningless.
    As as solution? Absolute zero.

    It does make clear that Russian interference happened. It won't change anyones mind about it, and deniers will likely double down on denial.
    While there may be comfort in the clear illustration of investigatory prowess, the clear lack of a penalty should instill no confidence.

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    Oh it happens, it's just much more subtle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    So the indictments dropped: So what?
    Somehow it's a little hard to believe Russia will extradite anyone.
    If it's for domestic consumption fine, most people will realize that it is practically meaningless.
    As as solution? Absolute zero.

    It does make clear that Russian interference happened. It won't change anyones mind about it, and deniers will likely double down on denial.
    While there may be comfort in the clear illustration of investigatory prowess, the clear lack of a penalty should instill no confidence.
    True, chances are no Russians will face jailtime. But buried in the indictment are mentions of conspiracy with persons "known and unknown to the grand jury". This set of indictments has two purposes: highlight what the Russians did, and tie in any coordination to other targets of the probe. Mueller has internal documents from the troll farm, how he got them is the real story...
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