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    Paul Ryan is a coward. Won't stand up to Trump regardless of how unhinged he gets, and now won't face the consequences of his legislative "agenda". I didn't think Pelosi's feebleness would be outdone so soon by a Speaker, but how wrong I was. When he comes back in for the 2024 presidential campaign he will get laughed off the stage (if the GOP still exists at that point).
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    Paul Ryan is a coward. Won't stand up to Trump regardless of how unhinged he gets, and now won't face the consequences of his legislative "agenda". I didn't think Pelosi's feebleness would be outdone so soon by a Speaker, but how wrong I was. When he comes back in for the 2024 presidential campaign he will get laughed off the stage (if the GOP still exists at that point).
    Coward? He is a self-serving politician. He is staying around until he meets the minimum requirement to have all 3 years of being the Speaker work out his pension for his 20 years of "service" then will be off earning more money from being NEDs on the very company he's helped with the tax decrease.

    I find it amazing how much hope people attach to a politician as though the next one will somehow magically be the one to selflessly fight for all the issues that they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Coward? He is a self-serving politician. He is staying around until he meets the minimum requirement to have all 3 years of being the Speaker work out his pension for his 20 years of "service" then will be off earning more money from being NEDs on the very company he's helped with the tax decrease.

    I find it amazing how much hope people attach to a politician as though the next one will somehow magically be the one to selflessly fight for all the issues that they want.

    Ryan got the first tax reform bill since Reagan through the Congress and did so by dragging Trump along and keeping the reactionary wing of the GOP under check. What more of a mark could he make as Speaker (especially having to work with THIS President) than that? It is not as though Gingrich, Hastert, or Boehner accomplished anything more significant or of greater appeal to GOP voters.

    If he bows out now he has options politically and otherwise. If he remains, he is tied to the current administration. If Trump suddenly becomes a President of legend (cannot calculate the odds against that, cannot count that high) then Ryan is done politically. As an outsider, presuming Trump does not become a legendary President, Ryan has options.
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    He can make a comeback a few years down the road, if he so chooses. Paul Ryan to the rescue!

    In fact, this can just be a possible set up for his presidential nomination in 7 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    Paul Ryan is a coward. Won't stand up to Trump regardless of how unhinged he gets, and now won't face the consequences of his legislative "agenda". I didn't think Pelosi's feebleness would be outdone so soon by a Speaker, but how wrong I was. When he comes back in for the 2024 presidential campaign he will get laughed off the stage (if the GOP still exists at that point).
    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Coward? He is a self-serving politician. He is staying around until he meets the minimum requirement to have all 3 years of being the Speaker work out his pension for his 20 years of "service" then will be off earning more money from being NEDs on the very company he's helped with the tax decrease.

    I find it amazing how much hope people attach to a politician as though the next one will somehow magically be the one to selflessly fight for all the issues that they want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    I find it amazing how much hope people attach to a politician as though the next one will somehow magically be the one to selflessly fight for all the issues that they want.
    I think you have mistaken me for someone who actually believed Ryan's BS about fiscal responsibility, I never had much hope for the man in the first place. But for someone who railed against the overpowered executive, he acted like a freshman rep in one of the most powerful positions in the country.

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    Ryan got the first tax reform bill since Reagan through the Congress and did so by dragging Trump along and keeping the reactionary wing of the GOP under check. What more of a mark could he make as Speaker (especially having to work with THIS President) than that? It is not as though Gingrich, Hastert, or Boehner accomplished anything more significant or of greater appeal to GOP voters.
    He got a tax cut, not a reform. Tip O'Neill got a tax reform bill passed, Ryan just raided the treasury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Ryan got the first tax reform bill since Reagan through the Congress and did so by dragging Trump along and keeping the reactionary wing of the GOP under check. What more of a mark could he make as Speaker (especially having to work with THIS President) than that? It is not as though Gingrich, Hastert, or Boehner accomplished anything more significant or of greater appeal to GOP voters.

    If he bows out now he has options politically and otherwise. If he remains, he is tied to the current administration. If Trump suddenly becomes a President of legend (cannot calculate the odds against that, cannot count that high) then Ryan is done politically. As an outsider, presuming Trump does not become a legendary President, Ryan has options.
    Dragged Trump along to give himself a massive tax cut to his personal empire? Tough journey I'm sure! Was A Republican Congress and President ever not going to award themselves a massive tax cut?

    Yes, he's got options - and the ability to make probably millions in the meantime.

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    I think you have mistaken me for someone who actually believed Ryan's BS about fiscal responsibility, I never had much hope for the man in the first place. But for someone who railed against the overpowered executive, he acted like a freshman rep in one of the most powerful positions in the country.
    Fair enough.

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    Cohen never went to Prague; that's his story and he's stickin' to it.
    The Steele Dossier makes the accusation and it seems the assertion might have backing.
    The Prague visit has something to do with meeting Russians and shady dealings (perhaps to the benefit of Trump) If it happened it could leave a mark, so to speak:

    https://wonkette.com/632560/hey-mich...passport-again

    If the cats out of the bag, he's a fool to continue denying the trip.
    The story is one that we'll have to wait for everyone to "show their work":

    https://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/172366...steele-dossier
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    Hannity. Please, please, please let there be something he would have needed a "lawyer" like Cohen for...
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