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    BrownWings: AirViceMarshall Senior Member Furunculus's Avatar
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    Default Re: Future of the European Union

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    I don't understand the point, if we offered and you had appropriate representation...wouldn't it be a good idea?



    But you are already under a common governance with three other countries [no I don't care about the details of verbiage and UK history/structure, it is not relevant to the point].
    How is the European Union any less arbitrary than your current political union?
    For myself, I'd be no less comfortable with the US than the EU, but then the US leans toward my preferences in focusing more on individual liberty than group equality, limited gov't, and and activist foreign policy. But I think we all know that our ardent remainders here would spit tacks if the prospect were in the offing.

    Sure, but every form of representative governance is a compromise that best meets the will of the group. The wider the ideological gulf of the group the less satisfactory the end compromise, and the less efficient the action of government in seeking to make and implement policy. The EU is already in lowest common denominator territory. And again, I'm not obliged to accept it.
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    Default Re: Future of the European Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    For myself, I'd be no less comfortable with the US than the EU, but then the US leans toward my preferences in focusing more on individual liberty than group equality, limited gov't, and and activist foreign policy. But I think we all know that our ardent remainders here would spit tacks if the prospect were in the offing.

    Sure, but every form of representative governance is a compromise that best meets the will of the group. The wider the ideological gulf of the group the less satisfactory the end compromise, and the less efficient the action of government in seeking to make and implement policy. The EU is already in lowest common denominator territory. And again, I'm not obliged to accept it.
    The US interpretation of the Second Amendment is far more removed from any society I identify with than anything the EU has come up with.

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