Trump Thread

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I heard one of the reporters mislabeling Trump's discussion of the women making allegations against Kavanaugh as a condemnation of all women and attacking the victims. Trump was rambling, semi-coherent, and trying to hedge all of his statements just like Bill Clinton (though in no way as glibly).

Who needs that level of sleazy and shoddy reporting. Just put up a two minute clip of Trump himself. Trump does NOT need the services of spun media coverage to come out looking like a jackhole. He's got that down.

[Montmorency]

I heard one of the reporters mislabeling Trump's discussion of the women making allegations against Kavanaugh as a condemnation of all women and attacking the victims. Trump was rambling, semi-coherent, and trying to hedge all of his statements just like Bill Clinton (though in no way as glibly).

Who needs that level of sleazy and shoddy reporting. Just put up a two minute clip of Trump himself. Trump does NOT need the services of spun media coverage to come out looking like a jackhole. He's got that down.

Mm, Trump has gone after Ford for sure, the others I'm not aware of (yet).

In this press conference? Dunno what your reporter claimed. The conference is 14K words (!) transcribed, and I don't want to watch Trump speak too often, but skimming Trump accused his own accusers of being paid plants. Somehow more remarkably he stated

It doesn’t mean they had to report it, because in some instances, people keep it quiet. It’s a very tough situation for a woman. There’s no question about it. And in some cases, they do report it. Frankly, had they reported it, it would have been pretty amazing, wouldn’t it? But I guess they didn’t. And that’s okay. I’m not saying they had to report it. Because it’s a very personal thing. It’s a very big problem. There’s no question about it. Go ahead.

Perspicaciously explaining why a woman might not report, contradicting his own tweet

I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!”

and 1 of the like 3 defense plays Republicans have for Kavanaugh.

Jesus fuck what is with this guy, it's like all reality is a maelstrom of the Billy Madison clip and Hades gifs. All the gifs, really.

Anyway, if this is all Trump getting cold feet about Kavanaugh there is actually a chance the Republicans will replace him with someone less of a dirtbag. They can still fasttrack a nominee before 2019, so no problem for them, right? No need to confirm seemingly the worst available candidate as a naked show of contemptuous power. Maybe the optimists will be right about this one.

[Strike For The South]

That press conference was brutal. I suppose that is what happens when all the GOP handlers are ousted and the enormity of the job has crashed down upon him.

The Kavanaugh stuff is mind blowing. He has seemingly totally rejected everything. Him and Ford apparently live in two separate realities. No story out of this presidency has laid bare the two realities people seem to be cordoning themselves off in.

On some level I think this is deliberate by Kavanaugh et al. Cop to the drinking or any number of things that are literally laid out in his best friends book and Ford becomes that much more believable. Instead you stake out a position that is totally opposite, have your people at the Federalist and NRO nit pick her statement for any inconsistencies, and people become so swamped with information they throw up their hands and say I don't know.

That's how you win in a information war when you are wrong. You don't have to convince people you are right. You have to confuse them enough in that little bit time between their job and their chores that they check the news.

I would hope this liar gets jettisoned. Because he is at very least that. We will know more today.

[Strike For The South]

Well this is a disaster in real time. Maybe a good thing will happen today.

[Csargo]

That press conference was brutal. I suppose that is what happens when all the GOP handlers are ousted and the enormity of the job has crashed down upon him.

The Kavanaugh stuff is mind blowing. He has seemingly totally rejected everything. Him and Ford apparently live in two separate realities. No story out of this presidency has laid bare the two realities people seem to be cordoning themselves off in.

On some level I think this is deliberate by Kavanaugh et al. Cop to the drinking or any number of things that are literally laid out in his best friends book and Ford becomes that much more believable. Instead you stake out a position that is totally opposite, have your people at the Federalist and NRO nit pick her statement for any inconsistencies, and people become so swamped with information they throw up their hands and say I don't know.

That's how you win in a information war when you are wrong. You don't have to convince people you are right. You have to confuse them enough in that little bit time between their job and their chores that they check the news.

I would hope this liar gets jettisoned. Because he is at very least that. We will know more today.

It's a bit ridiculous that this guy is still even being considered at this point in my mind. After numerous allegations have been put forward, he should have been taken out of consideration. At the very least, he is as SFTS described a liar, and at worst just a terrible human being. A person like that has no place on the Supreme Court.

[Montmorency]

The 6-figure debts maintained for many years, the disappearing debts as of this year, the extremely bizarre excuses for the debts, the lifelong career as a partisan operator, the multiple perjuries or conscious sub-perjury dissemblage, being a lecherous sot as confirmed by many witnesses and friends, lying about being a lecherous sot, submitting that he was a virgin as a canard, coordinating with the Republicans on the Judiciary Committee and the White House to push a doppelganger narrative... and I'm sure I'm missing a lot, beyond, obviously, the direct allegations of assault and misconduct. Claims which he has denied categorically, yesterday I hear in written testimony on penalty of felony.

All because Kennedy wanted him as a replacement and because Trump appears to believe he will rule in his favor on investigative or separation of powers matters. This is astronomical-tier corruption on the level of embezzling tens of millions from the government, at least. This is the type of thing many believed could only happen in a banana republic, or Russia. A truck has to be driven over Kavanaugh at this point, or else there is admitted no limit to the capacity for power to erase truth.

I've been listening to the hearing since 10 AM. Prosecutor Mitchell seems nice, at least. Striking that no Republicans other than Grassley seem to have addressed Ford.

[Strike For The South]

The 6-figure debts maintained for many years, the disappearing debts as of this year, the extremely bizarre excuses for the debts

I had forgotten about the baseball tickets.

I've been listening to the hearing since 10 AM. Prosecutor Mitchell seems nice, at least. Striking that no Republicans other than Grassley seem to have addressed Ford.

Perhaps smart enough knowing they can't ask anything relevant?

[drone]

I can't imagine why the Republicans are still pushing him through. Their goal is to pack the court with conservatives, but putting Kavanaugh up will jeopardize this. His testimony through the entire conformation process has been sprinkled with lies, and every step the Republicans take to get this done just pisses off the Democrats more and more. The Senate election map is already not kind to the GOP in 2020 (even without the inevitable pissed off women voters), and with a few years of digging the press, or the Dems with subpoena power, can definitely unearth enough facts to prove the he perjured himself to the Senate during these hearings, either about the sexual assaults or other issues. If he gets on SCOTUS, I foresee a Democratic Congress impeaching him after 2020, when they can confirm either a liberal or moderate (if Trump manages to hold on, go forbid) to replace him. The Democrats will not forget this or Merrick Garland.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Mm, Trump has gone after Ford for sure, the others I'm not aware of (yet).

In this press conference? Dunno what your reporter claimed. The conference is 14K words (!) transcribed, and I don't want to watch Trump speak too often, but skimming Trump accused his own accusers of being paid plants. Somehow more remarkably he stated



Perspicaciously explaining why a woman might not report, contradicting his own tweet



and 1 of the like 3 defense plays Republicans have for Kavanaugh.

Jesus fuck what is with this guy, it's like all reality is a maelstrom of the Billy Madison clip and Hades gifs. All the gifs, really.

Anyway, if this is all Trump getting cold feet about Kavanaugh there is actually a chance the Republicans will replace him with someone less of a dirtbag. They can still fasttrack a nominee before 2019, so no problem for them, right? No need to confirm seemingly the worst available candidate as a naked show of contemptuous power. Maybe the optimists will be right about this one.

Like I said. Quote any three minutes of the Trump press conference and no MSNBC reporter would have to impart the negative spin they so love to use. Just quote him, look at the camera and remark. "Chris, I don't think I need to add a thing."