Quote Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name View Post
They will put him in. People still don't understand the stakes here.

They dont care about public opinion, they obfuscate to the degree that is needed to disorient the public and proceed to cement themselves institutionally for another 40 years, at any means necessary.

This is the end of our current iteration of institutions as designed post WW2.

From Revolution to Civil War to existential threat to...idk what to even call this sudden lack of dignity.
You're probably right. Arguably Kavanaugh would have been pulled already if that were the play. But it really depends on the behind-the-scenes details of Kavanaugh's nomination. How will Trump be swayed, and does it matter? Is Kavanaugh a bought man from the outset? Does the national GOP expect to pre-empt Democrats the opportunity to pack the courts by future elections?

But basically this -

Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Their compatriots in the lower house would probably prefer they drop this lying sot, it might keep them from losing over 40 seats in a few weeks. In normal times, the GOP would be picking up a few seats in the Senate this cycle, but now they will be lucky to keep their current advantage. I have a feeling Pence will be spending a lot of time at the Capitol next term...
- would be irrelevant if the Republicans have privately moved fully beyond the concept of normal electoral politics.

I mean, I sure hope the optimists are right. It delays the timetable for the collapse of civil society by a year or so.

We need more time for the Democratic Party to realize they're responsible for prosecuting a war.