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    Quote Originally Posted by MoKus View Post
    Does AI cheat in extreme difficulty?
    Not sure about STW1, but in MTW1 you start with less money the higher the difficulty. There are also battlemap bonuses depending on the difficulty, and battlefield tactics get better the higher you go.
    Easy - your units get +4 morale
    Hard - AI units get a +15% bonus in combat
    Expert - AI units get +4 morale and a +30% bonus in combat

    The general consensus in MTW1 is that the best difficulty level is Hard, on Expert enemy units become very difficult to rout and tend to get decimated beyond usefulness and adds to your units valour, which hurts the AI strategically. MTW1 is also fairly easy to tweak with little mods, many players will eliminate peasants and ballista from the build tree, which really helps the AI unit choices.

    Vanilla RTW was pretty bad on release, you could exploit the campaign map movement features and the battlemap had issues. Mods definitely improved it. I didn't play enough MTW2 or Shogun2 to be able to comment on them.
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    The pre 3d games such as Shogun 1 (2d map) and Medieval 1 (2d map) alongside Shogun 2 (ai cheats hardcore) and Warhammer 2 (ai cheats hardcore). Also these games are the most enjoyable imo, not including mods. If we are counting mods then a nice challenging gameplay in terms of Total War games can also include Rome 1 and Medieval 2.

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    STW 1

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    The best mod for the AI is with any dout RTW 1 with darthmod. When I played it was the first time in years that I saw the AI kicking my ass. Just try it
    Then you also have Medieval II total war with mods like Europa Barbarorum II, TATW, etc

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    I think that STW 1 is better, because it is easier to play, but has fewer options.

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    Original Medieval TW for me.
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    STW/MTW, can't choose between the two..

    played most others, not bad, not impressed..

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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    Not sure about STW1, but in MTW1 you start with less money the higher the difficulty. There are also battlemap bonuses depending on the difficulty, and battlefield tactics get better the higher you go.
    Easy - your units get +4 morale
    Hard - AI units get a +15% bonus in combat
    Expert - AI units get +4 morale and a +30% bonus in combat

    The general consensus in MTW1 is that the best difficulty level is Hard, on Expert enemy units become very difficult to rout and tend to get decimated beyond usefulness and adds to your units valour, which hurts the AI strategically. MTW1 is also fairly easy to tweak with little mods, many players will eliminate peasants and ballista from the build tree, which really helps the AI unit choices.

    Vanilla RTW was pretty bad on release, you could exploit the campaign map movement features and the battlemap had issues. Mods definitely improved it. I didn't play enough MTW2 or Shogun2 to be able to comment on them.
    Drone, this has been my exact conclusion as far as MTW1 is concerned. Expert allows you to valor up your units too easily. Hard allows for a near 60% win before the 1231 invasion but your units don't get too much valor to be unrealistic.

    Also, I think someone should reassure the OP that playing without the pause key makes the battlefield management heavily favored toward the computer. Playing with the pause key is horrible training for player vs player gaming but it is honestly about three levels of difficulty easier than without. This magnifies when you get more and more units in the game.

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    One thing to point about Expert is the amount of AI boosts that it gets - which make routing units very hard.
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