04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread

[Zack]

what do you think about scoobs? I kinda don't think that's the way he would buss but not suepr sure if I remember his meta correctly

also interested in your cuth read

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On both

[ladd]

reading pzelda/barto posts I think the wolf team didn't wanna buss at least early on fwiw

[ladd]

any ORGer has tips to read csargo?

[ladd]

one of egix/merl1n is almost surely a wolf imo

just going by pzelda read list and by how I think he was trying to play

[Egix]

@Egix can you explain more in detail why you thought I was a wolf so much that you voted me d1 and ended the day voting me?

When I first voted you, it wasn't completely serious. I was aware that you could have just been memeing, but I didn't have any better idea of who to vote, and as you could probably tell from the 1610 reference there was always a chance that you were scum seeking refuge in audacity.

Then when I voted you again closer to EoD, it was because I ultimately decided that a wagon on you was more likely to go through than one on Monty (I understand that people may find this scummy, but putting my vote where I predict it will have more relevance at deadline is something I normally do in games where I can't make deadline [see: all of my MU games])

[ladd]

When I first voted you, it wasn't completely serious. I was aware that you could have just been memeing, but I didn't have any better idea of who to vote, and as you could probably tell from the 1610 reference there was always a chance that you were scum seeking refuge in audacity.

Then when I voted you again closer to EoD, it was because I ultimately decided that a wagon on you was more likely to go through than one on Monty (I understand that people may find this scummy, but putting my vote where I predict it will have more relevance at deadline is something I normally do in games where I can't make deadline [see: all of my MU games])

ok buy why did you think I was a wolf?

literally just because I was trolling a bit? that's it?

I mean your votes this game were:

- monty for saying I was 3p

- me for trolling a little bit

I hope you understand that we need soemthing more friendo

liek who are the wolves if it's not you and it's not chox?

[Egix]

What wolf team would have ever had egix carry the kill there?

In all honesty?

One where I am a goon and my buddies are non-multitasking PRs.
At least that's how it would be on MS. I have no idea whether multitasking scums are the norm or not on this site tho.

[Zack]

If I'm to put this in a readslist I think it goes something like:

Logic
Fable

Zack
Insaner

Monty
ladd

--- town line ---

Csargo
dya
Newyn
Pzelda
Cuth
Egix

Empoof
Choxorn

--- null/idk line ---

merl1n

El Barto

Spicy Merlin placement

Dumb read incoming: if Merlin is a villager, and he was getting read villa by pretty much everyone, how come no one ever asked GH about his placement of Merlin? No wolf thought to ask GH about his Merlin placement there? Kinda strange if he's town. That's such an easy and common wolf question / discussion point to have with villa GH

I'm going to sleep lol

[Egix]

ok buy why did you think I was a wolf?

literally just because I was trolling a bit? that's it?

I mean your votes this game were:

- monty for saying I was 3p

- me for trolling a little bit

I hope you understand that we need soemthing more friendo

liek who are the wolves if it's not you and it's not chox?

Not just for that, he also made a vote that seemed like it had been tacked on the end without any forethought.

I don't have much more to give honestly, if you're expecting me to have built solid cases on Day One (which was never my strong suit!) then you're asking for too much.

As for who scums are, I really don't have much of an idea yet (still need to have a go at rereading D1) but if I had to name two people I would say Csargo+Cuth.

[Zack]

Spicy Merlin placement

Dumb read incoming: if Merlin is a villager, and he was getting read villa by pretty much everyone, how come no one ever asked GH about his placement of Merlin? No wolf thought to ask GH about his Merlin placement there? Kinda strange if he's town. That's such an easy and common wolf question / discussion point to have with villa GH

I'm going to sleep lol

This post is so stupid

[ladd]

vote: merl1n

[ladd]

meh

doesnt feel great given he was empoof top villa read but we'll see

[Insaner]

When I was reading eod, the way GH joined the zelda wagon made me think of how he joined me on Darren Sanders in the finale

GH is an extremely likely villager but I wanted to seed the thread with that knowledge anyway

Fwiw I didn't get a good vibe on GH when he was riding the pzelda wagon either. It seemed like he was looking for excuses to sway the votes elsewhere the entire time.

[Insaner]

Is dya a busser? Because she was the person who stood behind my case on pzelda the most.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I can see where Zack would make the comparison to my DS vote in the last game where I was mafia against him, but you're forgetting the part a little later on in the day where I independently iso'd Zelda, picked out a post that I found to be a bad look, and signed off on the lynch based on my own reading.

[Insaner]

Insaner spitroasted a wolf and thinks it's a role madness game. The wolves didn't know barto was going to die and should have been expecting to sacrifice him d2 if they let me live through the night.

Empoof defended zelda iirc and was not really gunning after anyone except choxorn that I remember. I don't know why they would kill him if chox is villa

Not sure why everyone thinks dya is so villagy. She is near the bottom of my POE.

I'm also chuckling at insaner's God read of capage now being correct 3 out of 4 games, which is literally just rand lol

Well to be fair the one time I misread him was in the biggest game of the year where I entirely skipped most of his posts lol

[ladd]

Is dya a busser? Because she was the person who stood behind my case on pzelda the most.

yes

havent seen her wolf in a while though, generally I am the one who rands wolf when we play together

[Insaner]

I think merl1n wanting to hold me accountable for Capage flip shows he really had no clue he was going to flip wolf. His posting was super villagery even though his reads were very wrong by the looks of it. He's still in my top towns.

[ladd]

unvote

ya, don't feel great voting here for now

still wanna hear more about how he handled you/zelda early on

[ladd]

All right, you know what

Unvote
Vote: ladd

Choo choo mothertruckers

Tally:
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Empoof, ladd)
3 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius,)
3 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix)
1 Choxorn (Newyn)
2 PZelda (Insaner, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)


Not voting: Merl1n, Dyachei, Csargo

This seems correct?

When I first voted you, it wasn't completely serious. I was aware that you could have just been memeing, but I didn't have any better idea of who to vote, and as you could probably tell from the 1610 reference there was always a chance that you were scum seeking refuge in audacity.

Then when I voted you again closer to EoD, it was because I ultimately decided that a wagon on you was more likely to go through than one on Monty (I understand that people may find this scummy, but putting my vote where I predict it will have more relevance at deadline is something I normally do in games where I can't make deadline [see: all of my MU games])

@Egix explain why it was more likely to go through iyo

[Insaner]

yes

havent seen her wolf in a while though, generally I am the one who rands wolf when we play together

She certainly may have felt like Capage was going always down here with how much I was pushing for his death while claiming to have a god read on him. And his posting wasn't very good. It's possible that she thought she was obligated to read him right after I said that this is what I expected of her. Perhaps I shouldn't be giving her THAT much credit for that and read her with more scrutiny.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I wouldn't have made such a careless post about someone if I actually knew they were scum.

My problem with that post is that it's just a bad post regardless of the person you're townreading's alignment. It's like... of all the things to make a joke read for, using "thrice" instead of "three times"? I know you dropped the phrase "tonal memes read" but it doesn't even make sense really, just seemed super awkward in general. And then to have PZelda flip mafia, and have you make that post at a time when they weren't picking up much heat (and thus your post was more likely to disappear into the ether assuming PZelda would have survived for longer than he did)... just oof.

Well, Insan is town unless he hellbussed, which I doubt.
Fable and Logic are still my pet townreads.
And Chox is probably just town, considering his claim.

What about scumreads? You see the great majority of us going through the thread and POEing it down, or at least trying to. There are obviously some disagreements over exact placements (dya, merl1n, etc), but if you're town you're in the unique position of knowing that the general consensus is incorrect at some point besides you. Who do you think we should be lynching instead of you today?

[Egix]

@Egix explain why it was more likely to go through iyo

Insaner was willing to vote you, and the general impression I was getting was that other Monty voters might be moving off him (e.g. on to Zelda/Bart)

[ladd]

can you elaborate on both of the bolded?

I know the first is kinda self explaining but I wanna know exactly how you felt about people on both wagons at that point and what made you switch like that

Tally:
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Empoof, ladd)
3 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius,)
3 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix)
1 Choxorn (Newyn)
2 PZelda (Insaner, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)


Not voting: Merl1n, Dyachei, Csargo

This seems correct?

to add some context, this was the votecount at the time where cuth switched from monty to barto cause he said wagon composition looked better

I don't get why you thought so since you had pzelda as a villa read?

and you didn't town read anyone on bart wagon except zack afair

feel free to correct me if I am misremembering something, or if insaner vc was wrong

[ladd]

I feel pretty decent about emp/gh v/w world in some order but curious to see how some stuff plays out

why did you think so? and what was that "stuff"?

[ladd]

Insaner was willing to vote you, and the general impression I was getting was that other Monty voters might be moving off him (e.g. on to Zelda/Bart)

alrighty, I knew you were probably gonna answer like this but worth a shot anyway

so why did you not care to see why people were wolf reading bart and pzelda?

[Insaner]

I'm telling yall this better flip wolf or I'm sussing GH HARD tomorrow.

vote: Egix

[ladd]

also egix, can you explain why you villa read fable/logic more in depth?

[Egix]

My problem with that post is that it's just a bad post regardless of the person you're townreading's alignment. It's like... of all the things to make a joke read for, using "thrice" instead of "three times"? I know you dropped the phrase "tonal memes read" but it doesn't even make sense really, just seemed super awkward in general. And then to have PZelda flip mafia, and have you make that post at a time when they weren't picking up much heat (and thus *your post was more likely to disappear into the ether assuming PZelda would have survived for longer than he did)... just oof.



What about scumreads? You see the great majority of us going through the thread and POEing it down, or at least trying to. There are obviously some disagreements over exact placements (dya, merl1n, etc), but if you're town you're in the unique position of knowing that the general consensus is incorrect at some point besides you. Who do you think we should be lynching instead of you today?

I thought that that specific choice of word made it more believable that he had actually read the post more than once, which is something that I thought town would be more likely to do. 'Thrice' is quite an archaic word so I would feel like, if someone actually went out of their way to read a post more than once, they would also go out of their way to choose fancy words.

Yyyeah it's only when I actually type this out that I realise how absurd it sounds

*: It's not like I was intending for that post to go unnoticed. I would have been able to give that explanation at the time if anyone had asked me about it when it was new.


As I said to ladd earlier, my GTH scums are Csargo and Cuth... possibly dya as a plus-one. The problem I see now though, as I type this, is that really I'm just going with the consensus on you/ladd/Zack.

[ladd]

I thought that that specific choice of word made it more believable that he had actually read the post more than once, which is something that I thought town would be more likely to do. 'Thrice' is quite an archaic word so I would feel like, if someone actually went out of their way to read a post more than once, they would also go out of their way to choose fancy words.

Yyyeah it's only when I actually type this out that I realise how absurd it sounds

*: It's not like I was intending for that post to go unnoticed. I would have been able to give that explanation at the time if anyone had asked me about it when it was new.


As I said to ladd earlier, my GTH scums are Csargo and Cuth... possibly dya as a plus-one. The problem I see now though, as I type this, is that really I'm just going with the consensus on you/ladd/Zack.

this seems villagery

keep it up broski