Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
How does the UK not have a choice? If we don't have a choice because we're in NATO, will you and others be campaigning to leave NATO? After all, foreign countries telling us what to do was why we left the EU. Does the sovereignty argument not apply when it's Washington ordering us around?
Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
NATO members aren't obliged to join in anyway. The treaty applies to North America and Europe.
If Iran retaliates by, say, launching a cyber attack on the US National Grid, shuts down the Eastern Seaboard and people die - that will be considered an attack against NATO. Likewise, if Iran launches assassinations of US military personnel in Europe that will be considered an attack against NATO.

If the US invokes Article Five then the European nations will have no choice but to go along because without the US we cannot collectively oppose Russia - certain key members are not meeting their basic commitments, and others are about to be kicked out.

Hence "no choice".

This is completely different to the EU, which is a political project that the majority of voters rejected - i.e. federalisation.