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    Except that Manchin doesnt give a about Harris overruling the Parliamentarian. He won't vote for a $15 minimum wage.
    I realize this. Correct me if I'm wrong: Bernie puts the $15/hr raise in the bill, and it gets voted down. Now you can point to all who voted against it, including Manchin and Sinema (if she follows suit), and say these Congresspeople don't want to make life better for Americans. Then you go back, remove it from the bill, and hold another vote where the bill likely passes.

    Otherwise you give Republicans the ammunition to hammer you about reneging on a campaign promise, and they can even diss Bernie for not even putting it in in the first place. Seems to me to be a lose-lose course to take. Even worse, you open the door to the possibility of the GOP getting their own bill (Josh Hawley's) onto the floor:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahha...llar-companies

    It's also painfully obvious, that Manchin doesn't give a about VP Harris, Joe Biden, or anyone else but himself. So put the bill to a vote with the $15/hr minimum wage included, let his vote be logged as a nay, then let him answer to his own constituents who I'm sure would gladly welcome a raise.

    Democrats are just effing stupid.....

    Also did he back off student debt forgiveness? IIRC, he campaigned on forgiveness of up to $10k and it appears he is sticking to that.
    What he said was this:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rican-students

    For the record, he campaigned on two distinct planks. One: “immediate” cancellation of $10,000 for every borrower as a form of Covid relief. Two: the cancellation of all undergraduate student loans for debt-holders who attended public universities and HBCUs and who earn up to $125,000 a year. Keeping these two promises is the absolute minimum the Biden administration needs to do to keep the public’s trust.
    And that whole town hall thing was a rambling disaster, IMHO....
    Last edited by ReluctantSamurai; 03-02-2021 at 20:55.
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