Rampage Out of Space

[Csargo]

Do you have any thoughts about my EZ TR of Tim yesterday?

I know very little about you as a player, so not really. I remember you being good, so it doesn't tell me much.

[pzelda]

I have experienced wolf who hardly gives anything , and asks everyone about everything. Floods the chat with questions , but stays a miser with answers.

This response to Tim feels kinda forced too from Panda.

[pzelda]

unvote

I suppose I ought to start making an effort to read the thread and form opinions about stuff.

Being a civilised creature, however, first I need cocktails, dinner, dancing, and perhaps a little light petting to get me in the mood.

On the other hand, maybe I'll just smash a microwaveable doner kebab and four wicked-strength cheap lagers through my facehole while watching some shit on the telly.

Either way, I'll be back at some point before eod to attempt a degree of actual participation.

p.s. Anyone who reads me as anything other than straight null up to and including this point is either lying or wrong.

the best slank cover post ever

[Csargo]

I meant the way he attacked Rask for townreading Tim by pinning down very precisely the problematic nature of Tim's early posts. I don't think anyone else talked about them at that point. It could be a good eye, but in that case we should see more sussing of Tim in Dolby's iso later.

I think Dolby did sus Tim at EoD iirc. I don't think it was for Tim's early posts though, but for how Tim was going after Dolby at EoD. I need to go back and read EoD, but I'm pretty sure that was the case.

[Winston Hughes]

Hottake, this guy ain't town. He's too interested in mechanics and the game being bastard.

Not so much being interested in mechanics (that's not in my meta in any direction), as having actually read the host's posts and feeling like nobody else had.

[pzelda]

Town #2 identified

El landing hard on the thread is a town read for now.

Not gonna lie, I don't like El's early posts. It looks like he townread my long post just to justify reading Tim's long post later. I wonder why he skipped other posts in between.
Also, Tim immediately returning the favour is meh-ish.

[pzelda]

Town #2 identified

Never lynching here today.

Lewwyn looks townie enough, though I would warn against underestimating his ability to fake it.

HK feels natural. And being the top poster by a distance, I'm never voting here d1.

towny string of posts bei Winston.

[El-ahrairah]

Are you the type of player who gives easy TRs to your woof partners?

*thinks*

Depends on the partner. If it's someone I like, consider competent enough to handle the bromance and genuinely want to survive as long as possible with, then yes.

If they're baggage, no.

[pzelda]

Town #2 identified

Never lynching here today.

Lewwyn looks townie enough, though I would warn against underestimating his ability to fake it.

D1 Reads:
Town leans -
El-A - Opening reads very townie to me, puts in immediate effort to lock down his thoughts on thread, asks for clarification on posts through read-through.
CutePanda - Makes a post that catches flak, claims it was a contradictory bait. Calls on others to defend him for his activity. I will vouch that I’ve seen CP make plays like this before as town and that I’m doubtful he would take this approach as scum. Has a confusing ISO.
hollowkat - High amount of analysis in general, provides unique takes on players such as Rask, LA,
c4 - Early game indicative of townie WIM, shields HK, calls a weird post by CP townie while taking it as face value which is mehhh, bemoans post-count multiple times, makes a decent push on pzelda.
Lewwyn - Has been sheeping a few reads. Has broached on the idea of Winston/Garden being suspicious.
Raskolnikov - I have absolutely no read on his posts, I’m more inclined to town-read the way he went about interacting with Csargo and Winston, felt townier.
Tim - Makes a very detailed reads-list and attempts to take charge early. Makes high-effort analysis on defending players such as LA. Would be higher but I don’t trust him at all.

Nulls -
Dolby - Dayshielded LA for reasons I don’t quite understand, has cross-examined multiple posts.
BorgPicard - Conforms to own claiming meta, changes up his claim.
pzelda - First post is analysis, I was unable to establish any read based on his posts.
Csargo - Posted too many gifs, has been cross-examining.
Laurentus - Has yet to post. Will likely not post today. He has done this as town and scum.
Nanook - Conforms to own WIL meta.

Scum leans -
Ibn-Khaldun - Makes opportunistic vote to see tie, attacks LA for being anti-town, probably not w/w with LA.
Garden Gnome - Leads with nothing, interaction with Winston feels forced. Complains of lack of information. Opportunistically pushes BorgPicard based on jokes. Made a distancing poke at Winston for voting HK.
Winston - First post is a “Muller” hardclaim, forces players to use google translate, omgus votes Rask. Makes promise to analyze. Spams thread near EoD. Has been pursuing a wolfy playstyle intentionally.

Winston why are you town?

A lot of commentary in this list (look at these nulls) and the read on tim smells of w/w, especially the I don't trust him part.

Vote: Vroendal

[pzelda]

Not so much being interested in mechanics (that's not in my meta in any direction), as having actually read the host's posts and feeling like nobody else had.

You're right, I haven't read them yet.

[pzelda]

I'm standing with my initial read there. Pzelda has a history of being kinda lackadasical on day one and getting caught woofin' before he settles in. The way his first post went by without stirring an immediate alarm sort of seems like town Pzelda. Not a "wait for LYLO and look again" read by any stretch but I think there are better places to go today.

Raskol needs to show up here.

Dolby is looking worse every time I look.

I'd run either of them out ahead of Pzelda.

Yeah, Csargo, this is kind of a good look for Dolby.

[Winston Hughes]

Gnome/Winston both feel like possible anti-towns. From their early interaction, I got a feeling that they might have a private chat together.

Really?

I mean, I do like to hang the odd lampshade, but I'm not a total maniac.

As scum, the margin of error is too small to be making such blatant associations just for the lulz.

Of course, I'm not expecting anyone to treat Gnome and I as mutually exclusive in the wolf stakes. Shit gets faked all the time.

But the idea that our exchange supports a theory of mutual scumhood is kinda worryingly weak.

[El-ahrairah]

Confirmed lupine

Confirmed CARLSBERG

Fear my Danish imports

[Csargo]

*thinks*

Depends on the partner. If it's someone I like, consider competent enough to handle the bromance and genuinely want to survive as long as possible with, then yes.

If they're baggage, no.

So yeah, I don't think it's telling at all, which is about what I expected.

[El-ahrairah]

unvote

I suppose I ought to start making an effort to read the thread and form opinions about stuff.

Being a civilised creature, however, first I need cocktails, dinner, dancing, and perhaps a little light petting to get me in the mood.

On the other hand, maybe I'll just smash a microwaveable doner kebab and four wicked-strength cheap lagers through my facehole while watching some shit on the telly.

Either way, I'll be back at some point before eod to attempt a degree of actual participation.

p.s. Anyone who reads me as anything other than straight null up to and including this point is either lying or wrong.

I didn't realise Winston was British.

[Winston Hughes]

Although, that said, it's so weak I'd be surprised if cap went there if he was scum in this situation, so...

[El-ahrairah]

Not gonna lie, I don't like El's early posts. It looks like he townread my long post just to justify reading Tim's long post later. I wonder why he skipped other posts in between.
Also, Tim immediately returning the favour is meh-ish.

I'm not sure what you mean. I read pages 1-7, commented on anything that caught my eye, then went to bed. At that point there were still posts in the game I hadn't read, but there were a whole bunch of nothing-posts that I just outright ignored because they were talk about gifs and stuff and I really didn't care.

[El-ahrairah]

There we go, a funny and witty joke successfully made with zero hiccups or false steps

@NANOOK talk to me bro

[pzelda]

I'm not willing to vote Dolby, I'm not convinced on Rask, voting CP is just a bad idea in general.

Vote - Winston Hughes

I'm glad you've enjoyed yourself, I like you as a player. Unfortunately, you're a wolf, and I can't stand for that.

So, Raskol was in the lead at this point and this feels like Vro made a safe vote (without an actual real push to make his candidate hang imho)
El/Tim pair has the most synergy.
Vro is the scummiest player in the thread, but their interactions with Tim are fairly good.
I think I want to go individual scumread over association and a weaker scumread, tho.

[El-ahrairah]

El/Tim pair has the most synergy.

Of course they do, he was pretty much the only one around for the whole of the 1.5 hours I was online during D1 :P

Get better at mafia pls

[pzelda]

Really?

I mean, I do like to hang the odd lampshade, but I'm not a total maniac.

As scum, the margin of error is too small to be making such blatant associations just for the lulz.

Of course, I'm not expecting anyone to treat Gnome and I as mutually exclusive in the wolf stakes. Shit gets faked all the time.

But the idea that our exchange supports a theory of mutual scumhood is kinda worryingly weak.

Tbh, thinking it over, your response (are they all scum or something like that) is witty and looks good. My initial impression was that the two of you might be some kind of masons/lovers, but seeing the context of your other interactions, it's just Gnome, who feels iffy.

[pzelda]

I'm not sure what you mean. I read pages 1-7, commented on anything that caught my eye, then went to bed. At that point there were still posts in the game I hadn't read, but there were a whole bunch of nothing-posts that I just outright ignored because they were talk about gifs and stuff and I really didn't care.

tbh, i find it quite difficult to sr you in general, because your tone is great, but i honestly haven't seen anything what would make you town in my eyes in this game so far.

[pzelda]

Of course they do, he was pretty much the only one around for the whole of the 1.5 hours I was online during D1 :P

Get better at mafia pls

Now, this personal attack - I find it scummy because you're trying to make me feel bad about my reads. Not gonna happen, my friend. I feel bad about them all the time. That's why I post so many vague shades early on as town.

[El-ahrairah]

tbh, i find it quite difficult to sr you in general, because your tone is great, but i honestly haven't seen anything what would make you town in my eyes in this game so far.

I can't really help you with that tbh

[El-ahrairah]

Now, this personal attack - I find it scummy because you're trying to make me feel bad about my reads. Not gonna happen, my friend. I feel bad about them all the time. That's why I post so many vague shades early on as town.

That was actually a joke - being good at mafia has nothing to do with me being online for only 1.5 hours of D1. British humour just doesn't translate well on the interweb.

[pzelda]

Tiers I guess

VVV - Lewwyn, HK, Borg
VV - Winston, Dolby, Csargo, NANOOK
V
NULL - Laurentus, Ibn
W - Cute Panda
WW - El, Garden Gnome
WWW - Vroendal

[pzelda]

That was actually a joke - being good at mafia has nothing to do with me being online for only 1.5 hours of D1. British humour just doesn't translate well on the interweb.

Cool then, It looked like you were faking saltiness. Tbh, I probably need to get distance from you to avoid tunneling you right now.

[Winston Hughes]

I didn't realise Winston was British.

It's worse than that: I'm an Essex boy.

[pzelda]

Btw, C4 like Vro's wall and I disagree.

Also, one thing worth mention about Panda is that they scumread both me and C4 instead of siding with one of us (I didn't scumread C4, but I also couldn't find anything reliable to tr them for). That's more likely a towny stance than not. I think a wolf would be more likely to side to get townread from one of the sides.
Still, Panda's just below the null line for overall content in my reads, because I need to see reads/takes on more players from them.

[Winston Hughes]

British humour just doesn't translate well on the interweb.