Rampage Out of Space

[NANOOK]

Well how did you get that? We're you not roleblocker?

I have special powers

[Laurentus]

Hot take, Dolby is woofin'. I agree completely with one of Nanook's posts that called interactions between him and Tim distancing. The interactions between Tim and Vro felt more genuinely at odds.

But yeah, GG needs to die today.

[Laurentus]

Also, having read the whole game now, what shit were you tired of between El and Nanook, Dolby? Because I didn't see any.

[Dolby]

Also, having read the whole game now, what shit were you tired of between El and Nanook, Dolby? Because I didn't see any.

I’ll talk about it in the morning but basically Top scumreading me for bad reasons. In Eli’s case it’s a whole slew of stuff that I don’t like in his D1 and D2. In Nanooks case it’s pretty much the same thought that youre agreeing with him now, I think that it’s shit.

Also I think that LA is town, beyond the obvious

[Laurentus]

I’ll talk about it in the morning but basically Top scumreading me for bad reasons. In Eli’s case it’s a whole slew of stuff that I don’t like in his D1 and D2. In Nanooks case it’s pretty much the same thought that youre agreeing with him now, I think that it’s shit.

Also I think that LA is town, beyond the obvious

So... it's basically OMGUS? Lame.

[BorgPicard]

You are lame laurentus. I would advise you to reeducate yourself or face the wrath of the eternal leader.

[Laurentus]

You are lame laurentus. I would advise you to reeducate yourself or face the wrath of the eternal leader.

[Garden Gnome]

Hot take, Dolby is woofin'. I agree completely with one of Nanook's posts that called interactions between him and Tim distancing. The interactions between Tim and Vro felt more genuinely at odds.

But yeah, GG needs to die today.

talk more about my upcoming demise?
And my obituary?
What do you plan on putting in that?
Please be kind.
I am inept but sweet.
The scumminess that you see dripping from me is an illusion.
A mirage.
My death might not bring you the happiness for which you dream.

[hollowkatt]

lord have mercy this post is bad

Has your take changed since that comment?

Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.

Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.

Vote: pzelda

HK does Day 2 make up for this entirely? Does Tim being scum make zelda seem less scummy?

Remember that this is in response to me comment:


My issue is that this post comes well after I make a post in the QT about how I'm not sold on Tim, specifically I was thinking about how zelda gave him a meta town lean in his first post. Then this post comes after and sort of backpedals on that. This coupled with not hearing from Zelda for the rest of the day in the QT makes me think he was repositioning publicly based on what I said in the QT.
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No, his D2 doesn't make up for how bad that post was. Especially with Tim flipping wolf.

[hollowkatt]

All of this is to say I believe that we should have discussions on Zelda, Vro, Ibn, in particular today and then lynch Gnome.

Yeah, I think that makes sense.

[hollowkatt]

talk more about my upcoming demise?
And my obituary?
What do you plan on putting in that?
Please be kind.
I am inept but sweet.
The scumminess that you see dripping from me is an illusion.
A mirage.
My death might not bring you the happiness for which you dream.

vote: Garden Gnome

[pzelda]

I read Lewwyn's posts. I confirm we have a chat together. I also admit that I got quite paranoid about him after he stopped responding yesterday.
I have some work now, but I should be able to post a plenty in the second half of the day.

One person I haven't shared a read on yesterday is Laurentus. I think he had a very sketchy entrance not checking the flips first. Tbh, It felt almost twtbaw. I liked his later interactions, tho. I need to take a second look, but he joined the discussion with joy and wasn't afraid to voice his opinions. That's a good look. I'm still mildl paranoid about the derp, especially because he stopped catching up after being called out. That shift from reading the game to playing potentially helped him to avoid making proper reads there.

[pzelda]

I've lost track of what's going on in the thread to be honest. Lau seems slightly derp-cleared assuming that as a wolf he would read the wolf chat before going into the thread. Dolby's EoD felt super townie to me. I'm scum-reading GG from yesterday, her voting Dolby is noteworthy. Both Dolby and Lau are scum-reading and voting El-A. I was still semi-town-reading him based on his initial entrance and brought him down after reading Dolby's thoughts. Honestly either GG or El-A would be fine with me at this point. Would prefer GG because I'm understanding a bit more as to why she's scummy, but going with my strong player town-leans on a wagon is probably the wisest option for me at this point because I have no idea what happened this phase. I'm choosing not to vote Winston because y'all know what my stance on him is already and it doesn't look like he's any kind of option right now.

Vote - El-A

tbh, this feels like a wolf potentially saving another wolf. Would prefer GG and casting a vote on El is a striking contradiction.

[pzelda]

One more point. Lewwyn's basically confirmed town for blocking me and outing himself instead of killing me at night or trying to manipulate my 1-shot power.

[pzelda]

Unfortunately for him I used it n1 to peek Winston and tonight I got result that he's Umenses.

[Laurentus]

talk more about my upcoming demise?
And my obituary?
What do you plan on putting in that?
Please be kind.
I am inept but sweet.
The scumminess that you see dripping from me is an illusion.
A mirage.
My death might not bring you the happiness for which you dream.

Lol, if you want this obituary to be nice, or better yet, stave it off, bring us a wolf, then, please and thank. Softing is going to do nothing for you at this point.

[pzelda]

Let's round this up and kill Vroe and GG

Vote: Vroendal or Garden Gnome

Also, Csargo's my current lead for the 3p as he's having too much fun this game.

[pzelda]

Lol, if you want this obituary to be nice, or better yet, stave it off, bring us a wolf, then, please and thank. Softing is going to do nothing for you at this point.

Maybe she's brutal and this is a threat

[Laurentus]

tbh, this feels like a wolf potentially saving another wolf. Would prefer GG and casting a vote on El is a striking contradiction.

Meh, I deferred to Dolby's judgement myself yesterday, so I am surprised you aren't doing a similar callout to me, especially after how gung-ho I was about killing HK. But a solid point nonetheless.

[Laurentus]

Maybe she's brutal and this is a threat

If I go down after a good wolf hunt, it will be a death I can be proud of. Make me the Mozart of this game, ye beasties.

[pzelda]

Ok, there are more questions than takes in Gnome's iso. First, her interactions with El are minimal. Meta-wise, I think town Garden Gnome would interact with El to get a free townread from him, but let's not reall use this meh reason as an evidence. Second, she townread HK in a scummy way. I don't mind her making a blank stance, but later on she questioned others Why HK over Dolby? and defended HK in a tmi-ish fashion. Third, Her progression on Dolby from asking about Nanook's scumminess to saying that the two ain't w/w to voting and pushing Dolby as a candidate felt weak at best and not based on her conviction.

Vroe trying to save Gnome with their votes makes the two an almost too obvious scum team.

[Laurentus]

Ok, there are more questions than takes in Gnome's iso. First, her interactions with El are minimal. Meta-wise, I think town Garden Gnome would interact with El to get a free townread from him, but let's not reall use this meh reason as an evidence. Second, she townread HK in a scummy way. I don't mind her making a blank stance, but later on she questioned others Why HK over Dolby? and defended HK in a tmi-ish fashion. Third, Her progression on Dolby from asking about Nanook's scumminess to saying that the two ain't w/w to voting and pushing Dolby as a candidate felt weak at best and not based on her conviction.

Vroe trying to save Gnome with their votes makes the two an almost too obvious scum team.

I continue to be surprised that you are not seeing team equity between me and Vro, either, because I switched to El to save Vro, initially.

[pzelda]

Meh, I deferred to Dolby's judgement myself yesterday, so I am surprised you aren't doing a similar callout to me, especially after how gung-ho I was about killing HK. But a solid point nonetheless.

I think your case was different. And I said that I was unhappy when you moved from forming reads and started playing real time. But your posts after that movement looked like you were really trying to figure out alignments of people you interacted with.

[pzelda]

I continue to be surprised that you are not seeing team equity between me and Vro, either, because I switched to El to save Vro, initially.

Ok, if you insist I'll go after you, if Gnome flips town.

[Laurentus]

Ok, if you insist I'll go after you, if Gnome flips town.

Would be nice if your reads are consistent. Both to avoid tunnels and to make your pushes less sus.

[pzelda]

Vro coming in swinging at whoever is handy is a stark contrast to the way El came in, as late arrivals go. Not gonna go spontaneous combustion about it, but noted.

Tbh, the only thing I dislike about voting Vroe.

[Laurentus]

Tbh, the only thing I dislike about voting Vroe.

Yeah, my thing is I don't think Tim was anticipating he would go down so soon, and Vro is amazing lynchbait for people who don't know him, so this all taken together makes me very confident that Vro is just Town here. Tim's gunning for him felt like it was honestly trying to set up a lynch, and Tim also doesn't bus lightly, so yeah.

[pzelda]

Would be nice if your reads are consistent. Both to avoid tunnels and to make your pushes less sus.

I'm far too consistent this game for my liking this game. I almost feel like I might be stuck with wrong reads. But you can take a look at my tiers from yesterday. Gnome and Vroe were at the bottom. I admit I need to reread the second half of d2 to clean up my townreads (more or less everyone else at this point).

I also should check your reasons for saving Vroe.

[pzelda]

Yeah, my thing is I don't think Tim was anticipating he would go down so soon, and Vro is amazing lynchbait for people who don't know him, so this all taken together makes me very confident that Vro is just Town here. Tim's gunning for him felt like it was honestly trying to set up a lynch, and Tim also doesn't bus lightly, so yeah.

I don't think Vroe was an endangered specie at that point, but you're right about Tim not being a frequent busser. The comment's also kinda mild, so I keep wondering whether he aimed to put Vroe on a chopping board or just wanted to get some early distancing in. The majority of players barely realized that Vroe had posted at that point.

[Laurentus]

Oh, by the way, you're all probably aware of this, but that method to ISO where you go to the Gameroom and click on the post count, then the name of the person you wanna ISO, is not very reliable. I realised this when I did that brief ISO of GG at the end of the last phase. There were a few posts not represented there which I only ended up seeing after I read through the whole game.