Rampage Out of Space

[hollowkatt]

case me then winston. If you're so sure I'm wolfing here quote my posts that indicate that, with analysis that shows you're thinking this through. Bet you can't tho

[Laurentus]

I think my point still stands. yesterday was the day to chop me, there will never be another day to chop me.

Tim's flip states:
"The Mafia choose someone to kill at night. Kills are factional, and therefore not assigned (will not interfere with individual abilities)."

Not assigned sounds pretty specific to me, how else would you interpret it?

Yeah, the "not assigned" part leaves very little room for doubt.

Okay, the next thing we need to square away: Borg is either SK or scum, which do we judge more likely?

For me the answer is a clear

Vote: Borg

[Laurentus]

case me then winston. If you're so sure I'm wolfing here quote my posts that indicate that, with analysis that shows you're thinking this through. Bet you can't tho

I'd start with literally quoting one of my posts where you see I say we don't chop the SK today, and then somehow progress to "you're trying to mischop me today."

[Laurentus]

re dolby: no, I am pointing out where you're wrong. idgaf if you're swayed or not, you asked me why I posted what I did, I'm answering. One of the reasons I sus you is b/c you're wrong on things, or leaving things out.
And yeah, I'm claiming lack of progression on you.

I do realize changing reads are a thing, but like this shift from "you're not dying today" to "you must die today" is jarring, bad, and I told you so yesterday
I was topping peoples SK list yesterday, with at least one "hk is a wolf" out there. Objectively yesterday was 100% the correct day to resolve me if you're going to chop me. NOW you have to actually chop a wolf IF you are town and your push here smells a lot like "wolves need one mischop to win and HK is it"

Actually, where did I say you had to die today?

[Winston Hughes]

case me then winston.

I already have.

If you're so sure I'm wolfing here quote my posts that indicate that, with analysis that shows you're thinking this through. Bet you can't tho

This is exactly how I protect myself as scum. Because, like you, I'm really good at faking that townie tone, avoiding obvious errors, and generally riding the threadflow in a way that feels superficially convincing while nudging things where I want them to go.

The point isn't that this post or that post is scummy in itself. The point is that you've come in pushing angles that don't fit with where your mind ought to be if you were actually town.

Picking the policy bit when borg had just dropped a weaksauce investigative claim was just yuck.

[Winston Hughes]

It's running interference.

Just like on d1.

[Laurentus]

Can we activate Voltron now?

[Winston Hughes]

I come back to the same question I started with:

Is there a world in which hk and dobly are actually scumbuddies?

[Laurentus]

I come back to the same question I started with:

Is there a world in which hk and dobly are actually scumbuddies?

I started this day out thinking that the only team HK could be a part of was that one. I don't recall why I thought it.

[Laurentus]

I started this day out thinking that the only team HK could be a part of was that one. I don't recall why I thought it.

But regardless, between Borg and HK, who do we think is the SK?

[Laurentus]

Although, it is worth pointing out, Winston, that HK really wants it to seem like he is out for Dolby's blood if they are indeed paired. Do you think HK busses here?

[Vroendal]

Yeah, the "not assigned" part leaves very little room for doubt.

Okay, the next thing we need to square away: Borg is either SK or scum, which do we judge more likely?

For me the answer is a clear

Vote: Borg

I'm not sure Lau. On the one hand, BP's claim pushing away from voting Dolby (setting Dolby up as the SK) is very telling, but on the other hand, wouldn't scum know not to fake something like tracking Tim? Maybe they forgot/didn't see that the factional part was revealed?

I'm going to be gone again for a while, I'll think it over, but I'm pretty convinced it's SK HK and scumteam BP/Dolby.

[BorgPicard]

Yeah, the "not assigned" part leaves very little room for doubt.

Okay, the next thing we need to square away: Borg is either SK or scum, which do we judge more likely?

For me the answer is a clear

Vote: Borg

I don't care if you want me out, but please don't vote on my wagon, as I am trying not to kill you.

[Winston Hughes]

But regardless, between Borg and HK, who do we think is the SK?

If it had to be one of the two?

I think hk.

There's been a joy there that fits with my own experiences of playing sk - that sweet combo of genuine scumhunting and utter villainy.

I'm still not letting go of the Dolby hypothesis, though.

[Laurentus]

I don't care if you want me out, but please don't vote on my wagon, as I am trying not to kill you.

Why do you have to AtE so well, damn you, lol. How do you explain Vro's catch that the scum team doesn't kill targets individually, and square that with your claim that you caught Tim in the act? Like, with the sincerity of your tone here, it sounds like you're the SK, but you can't convince me you're Town.

[Winston Hughes]

Although, it is worth pointing out, Winston, that HK really wants it to seem like he is out for Dolby's blood if they are indeed paired. Do you think HK busses here?

You mean today?

[Laurentus]

You mean today?

Are you asking if I'm asking if HK busses today?

[BorgPicard]

Why do you have to AtE so well, damn you, lol. How do you explain Vro's catch that the scum team doesn't kill targets individually, and square that with your claim that you caught Tim in the act? Like, with the sincerity of your tone here, it sounds like you're the SK, but you can't convince me you're Town.

Well if you let HK, Winston and Vro be the only ones on my wagon then the next night will be clearer

[Laurentus]

Fuck this game.

[Winston Hughes]

Are you asking if I'm asking if HK busses today?

Are you asking if I'm asking if you're asking if HK busses today?

[Laurentus]

I'm back to being paranoid about everything except Csar, lol, so I think I'm'a step away for a bit.

[Laurentus]

Are you asking if I'm asking if you're asking if HK busses today?

Jesus, lol, let me just make it clearer: do you think HK busses Dolby today?

[Winston Hughes]

Fuck this game.

[Winston Hughes]

Jesus, lol, let me just make it clearer: do you think HK busses Dolby today?

No idea.

[Winston Hughes]

I mean, probably...

Maybe...

I could be convinced...

But on the other hand...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Welcome to my world.

[hollowkatt]

I already have.



This is exactly how I protect myself as scum. Because, like you, I'm really good at faking that townie tone, avoiding obvious errors, and generally riding the threadflow in a way that feels superficially convincing while nudging things where I want them to go.

The point isn't that this post or that post is scummy in itself. The point is that you've come in pushing angles that don't fit with where your mind ought to be if you were actually town.

Picking the policy bit when borg had just dropped a weaksauce investigative claim was just yuck.

your meta on me is wrong lol. I get caught as wolf on tone and weird posts way more than I get away with them. In fact, I've been D1 caught on tone within 5 posts of starting the game before.

If we're trusting Laurentus as clear, and vro as clear via laurentus and the derp conversation then there is no angle. Wolves + SK are in you, dolby, borg. Like there's no arguing otherwise.
The only way to argue otherwise is to either remove yourself and insert me (as you have to do if you're a wolf or SK here) OR insert one of Laurentus/Vro, right? There are no other worlds

[Winston Hughes]

What chance we figure out exactly the right chop order, but Csar got trapped in his basement and we lose anyway?

[Winston Hughes]

There are no other worlds

So why do you feel so limp?

If town, you should have the bit between your teeth.

Why don't I feel under pressure here?

[hollowkatt]

I'm back to being paranoid about everything except Csar, lol, so I think I'm'a step away for a bit.

Do you still believe in your Vro clear?
If you do the path forward is transparent: chop within myself, winston, dolby, borg all the time every time.
If you're town and vro is town and csargo is town you've got a 50% chance than any player in that group chosen at random is going to be a wolf.

Going down that path the votes that make the most sense are dolby and borg. I make the least sense (though you may think winston makes the least sense and honestly whatever I guess). Then Winston.

[Winston Hughes]

You keep telling Laurentus what to do.

That's not townie.

You should be telling me what to do.