Sorceror 17er Game Thread

[EnderWiggin]

Like, Cuth, I can understand if you disagree with it. But kinda feels weird if you just don't acknowledge it.

[Cuthillius]

dear cuth,

i've read this post like 6 times

what does it mean

love, katze

normally when i play after like half a phase or a phase it feels like the game has separated into various possible worlds which come together from connections

like distinct subsets of the game doing different sorts of things, and it's not like all of the wolves are necessarily in those, it's just that either the game could be like THIS or like THAT or like maaybe like THAT

but in this case idk i have a hard time clearly coming up with that much potential new information that would clearly define the perspective in the way i would expect from say a red flip on d1 often would

there are clearly unaligns and whatever it's just

everything feels all muddled together

[Cuthillius]

If you're so convinced I'm town, why do you seem so unimpressed by my case?

Caveat that I've skimmed very vaguely so if I missed something I apologise, but it feels like you've slapped this great big townread on me but have also completely ignored my actual push and has put a weak af townread on Newcomb

if you're talking about your case on newcomb, i have zero opinion on it whatsoever

i'm basing this off the first half of your phase and the way you responded when i was asking you about stuff yesterday

[Raskolnikov]

OK Cuth you are full of crap lmao. The only mention about my slot in your ISO is the initial "lock villa"

[Cuthillius]

OK I prolly need to read some Cuth to understand that 180 lol

what 180?

[EnderWiggin]

if you're talking about your case on newcomb, i have zero opinion on it whatsoever

i'm basing this off the first half of your phase and the way you responded when i was asking you about stuff yesterday

You don't even care that a lock v read has a strong feeling about someone else?

[katze]

normally when i play after like half a phase or a phase it feels like the game has separated into various possible worlds which come together from connections

like distinct subsets of the game doing different sorts of things, and it's not like all of the wolves are necessarily in those, it's just that either the game could be like THIS or like THAT or like maaybe like THAT

but in this case idk i have a hard time clearly coming up with that much potential new information that would clearly define the perspective in the way i would expect from say a red flip on d1 often would

there are clearly unaligns and whatever it's just

everything feels all muddled together

alrighty

can you like give me a few names of ppl you'd be willing to kill today, maybe a few preflip associations (if v, then look at x/y/z, if w, then x is prob town and y might be w/w)

im struggling to enter your headspace rn

[Cuthillius]

OK Cuth you are full of crap lmao. The only mention about my slot in your ISO is the initial "lock villa"

your point being?

i didn't say "i wrote a bunch of words about rask in my iso"

i said "i voted rask because his entrance was lackluster and he was pushing something i didn't like right before i voted him and i'll give it a closer look once i've caught up"

[nebjiamn]

me: wolf reading newc for a majority of the day
also me: waiting for newc to drop his fire reads list in the next 10 mins so i can sheep and go to costco

[Cuthillius]

alrighty

can you like give me a few names of ppl you'd be willing to kill today, maybe a few preflip associations (if v, then look at x/y/z, if w, then x is prob town and y might be w/w)

im struggling to enter your headspace rn

associations take energy, any i would say are just the obvious ones (people unaligned with sunbae etc)

i think i've been pretty clear about my reads as i've gone along but i'll consolidate them (order-wise) and we can talk about that more if there are any you want me to elaborate on

[Raskolnikov]

your point being?

i didn't say "i wrote a bunch of words about rask in my iso"

i said "i voted rask because his entrance was lackluster and he was pushing something i didn't like right before i voted him and i'll give it a closer look once i've caught up"

You are saying it now actually. What's the thing I was pushing you didn't like?

[Newcomb]

alrighty

can you like give me a few names of ppl you'd be willing to kill today, maybe a few preflip associations (if v, then look at x/y/z, if w, then x is prob town and y might be w/w)

im struggling to enter your headspace rn

Welcome to the cuth experience lmao

If i'm sorc i'm 100% giving cuth the bomb tonight just to force him to make a binary decision

And I say this with love Cuth <3

[EnderWiggin]

So, if I vote myself out will people believe I have something on Newcomb and go there tomorrow instead of staying off them for ? reasons?

[Sleep]

vote: cuth

im not going to lie, #1003 tipped me over the edge

[Winston Hughes]

sell me on cuth

[Cuthillius]

benneh

ender
katze
sunbae

monstr

cape
hk but this read is from early d1
newc

roro
sleep
zack

ladd

csargo

monty
winston

rask

and if you're saying to yourself "gee four orgers on the bottom of that list" guess what i've been saying to myself for the last like 24 hours too

alphabetical within tiers as always

[Cuthillius]

So, if I vote myself out will people believe I have something on Newcomb and go there tomorrow instead of staying off them for ? reasons?

for the love of all that is good in the world please just don't.

[katze]

So, if I vote myself out will people believe I have something on Newcomb and go there tomorrow instead of staying off them for ? reasons?

if you're voted out today is your legacy "kill newcomb with fire" or "stop ignoring newcomb and talk about him more" because i feel like im the loudest anti-newcomb voice and if i died today i'd absolutely not lean the former

[EnderWiggin]

vote: cuth

im not going to lie, #1003 tipped me over the edge

I don't mind this if Newcomb is off the table.

I do not feel like their reads feel entirely legit. Especially the way they've treated me.

[Raskolnikov]

lmao cuth

[Visor]

as of 1036

Players Votes

Raskolnikov 3 (Monstrdude, Cuthillius, Montmorency)
Cuthillius 3 (katze, nebjiamn, Sleep)
Sleep 2 (ladd, Newcomb)
Enderwiggin 2 (Raskolnikov, zack)
hollowkatt 2 (Dobby, Csargo)
Csargo 2 (Cape90, hollowkatt)
Montmorency 1 (Sunbae)
ladd 1 (Winston Hughes)
Newcomb 1 (Enderwiggin)

[Sleep]

if you're voted out today is your legacy "kill newcomb with fire" or "stop ignoring newcomb and talk about him more" because i feel like im the loudest anti-newcomb voice and if i died today i'd absolutely not lean the former

then i guess ur not as loudly anti-newcomb as me

[Raskolnikov]

why would I be a wolf even Cuth lol?

[Cuthillius]

and also no it wouldn't tip the scale there in the slightest i already think you're probably town but that doesn't mean much about the validity of your read

sorry if sounds harsh

the most useful thing it would do is make me consider how newc's treated you this phase but off the top of my head i don't have big issues with that so

[Newcomb]

me: wolf reading newc for a majority of the day
also me: waiting for newc to drop his fire reads list in the next 10 mins so i can sheep and go to costco

[EnderWiggin]

if you're voted out today is your legacy "kill newcomb with fire" or "stop ignoring newcomb and talk about him more" because i feel like im the loudest anti-newcomb voice and if i died today i'd absolutely not lean the former

I right now feel the former.

Might be that I read their reaction to the case I posted where they "forgot" who posted it.

And idk I just viscerally want the flip and the red blood of a wolf on my hands to prove myself right now.

[Cuthillius]

why would I be a wolf even Cuth lol?

what is the point of this post

[Csargo]

Can you expand on that? I was under the impression you were leaning on ladd's townread of HK and I'm kind of missing the evolution of like, how you got here.

This vote kinda feels like it's a "where can I park my vote safely" vote than a "I think this guy is gonna flip w" vote.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053829070
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053829043

I don't think I'm going to be able to explain it better than I've already done. If that's not sufficient then, I don't know.

[Raskolnikov]

@Blade: your case on Newcomb is unconvincing. Wanna to articulate it more?

[katze]

then i guess ur not as loudly anti-newcomb as me

i mean tbh you're probably right because im never really that confident in D1 wolfreads

would you also lean the former? (i saw enders answer)