Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
If Tories and Brexiteers is 1-4 then i think it fails because such a small group cannot swing wider opinion over such a sustained period of time,
They didn't swing wider opinion, they gained power relying on preexisting opinion suspicious of foreign influence broadly speaking, which is a different thing than persuading cohorts of voters that Britain's status in the EU was unfavorable. But as to opinion tangentially, I've seen research that suggests a minority only needs to exceed 10% of the population for its ideas to have a chance at entering the mainstream. For an American example, see police/prison abolition and, more lethally, racial/epidemiological conspiracism.

All in all - I am forced to the conclusion that you simply are unable to recognise that a lot of people simply didn't recognise the EU (not europe!), as a legitimate form of governance.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it's been clear to me that Pann stopped caring about EU membership as such years ago; it's the malgovernance and spread of corrosive political values or practices that he's always complaining about.