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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    What do you make of the British press' coverage of Meghan Markle?
    If you mean specifically; i don't know. I am a monarchist, not a royalist - and therefore entirely disinterested in the private lives of the royal family.
    If you mean generally; then i laugh at meghan's failed attempt to to bring american PR and 'personality' into british distance - and disappointed that Harry lacks the capacity to realise the inevitability of this failure.
    Either way, i'm not sure how it relates to UK political governance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    While liberals don't generally have the guts to retaliate toward the coarsening of political norms and institutions, pushing it without forethought is not to the Party's long-term benefit...
    ...Take it more seriously.
    We have an adversarial political system; it is explicitly the role of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to hold the gov't to account.
    Labour cannot perform this role if people won't vote for them, and yet they seem incurious about what the electorate actually wants.
    They need to be relevant!

    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    To make the British system more dysfunctional and unrepresentative than it already is will foreseeably bring the public further in line with France and the US, even accounting for an herbivorous opposition.
    I agree - no-one wants a dysfunctional and unrepresentative system of governance.
    Looking at your graph leads me to be both surprised and delighted that despite; the financial crisis, brexit, covid, the cost of living crisis, less than half of britons believe that the political/economic systems need complete or major reform - similar to germany.
    I contend that the system is evidently flexible in a way that america and france seem not to be.
    And insist the Labour party take an interest in being relevant - if for no other reason than to prevent the further coarsening of political norms and institutions.

    If they don't then they will be displaced, eventually. As happened a hundred years ago when the liberals ceased to be relevant to the demands and expectations of the electorate in a previous episode of revolutionary fervour.
    Last edited by Furunculus; 05-22-2022 at 09:34.
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