Casual december game

[Askthepizzaguy]

The game just started and we are in RVS. There ain't 0 way you are town thinking like this already. Page 30 read on page 1 of the game

Actually, in post 1285, I clearly explain how I got to this read on that player. Read my iso.

Wolfy repeating of previous work, and reads that stagnate and never evolve or change, and a wolfy demand to be townread for my busywork so far.

[Cape90]

Actually, in post 1285, I clearly explain how I got to this read on that player. Read my iso.

Wolfy repeating of previous work, and reads that stagnate and never evolve or change, and a wolfy demand to be townread for my busywork so far.

Yeah sorry, you are right. also I think post 1329 was a wolfy response to your read.

The dude literally just posted a gif and said "lol ur wrong" "git good" I think you have them on the ropes.

Okay they gave a proper response in 1357 but I don't think it's super good either.

The way visor said that he hasn't been coasty at all and has well-thought out reads totally contradicts the whole gameplay of them so far.

You know Visor, in 981 you quoted a few of my posts and said some words about them like you were gonna give a read on me or something. But then you just walked away and said null, what's up with that? You even called other players wolfy as ATPG said and yet you say you don't have a strong stance on them? My dude that is a stance u know.

I think ATPG is onto something

[Montmorency]

This is going to be even harder if we play off fictional reads.

Vote: Visor

[Cape90]

This is going to be even harder if we play off fictional reads.

Vote: Visor

interesting how you just go with the fictional read after saying this

[Montmorency]

Fictional read? He who spelt it dealt it.

Pizza gone real quiet since the vote dropped.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Fictional read? He who spelt it dealt it.

Pizza gone real quiet since the vote dropped.

I will be intensely distracted this game by other games, hosting, baby, and hanging out and socializing.

My WIM meter is at 50 percent which is staggeringly low for someone like me.

I am very much in super casual mode here rn and I also will not megapost or hog the whole discussion here.

I need you people to post more so I have something to cold read, actually. Make with the ending of RVS and get closer toward meaty solving as soon as possible.

Start with reads on me wolf or town.

Reads you can reverse. Reads you will not bind to the souls of your firstborn child. Reads that are in dry erase marker, and have eraser in hand.

But I should already be someone people have an opinion on, a real one, which means RVS can be mercifully done and over with as soon as people cold read me.

[Logic]

I saw these postnums being quoted and assumed they were legit for a minute.

Actual postnum? 130

[Cape90]

I saw these postnums being quoted and assumed they were legit for a minute.

Actual postnum? 130

I wonder what ATPG thinks of this dumbtell

Which is a roundabout way of me asking him :D

[Askthepizzaguy]

I wonder what ATPG thinks of this dumbtell

Which is a roundabout way of me asking him :D

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I don't know if I believe it but here is the thing

Let me tell you the kinds of derps and dumbtells I have seen in my ancient amount of years

Last year (I think) Return of the Clowns game, Lightfoot as town with moderator powers was reading the game, and making a post with claims in it.

instead of replying to an old post, she edited that old post, so that she edited in a claim she saw later in the thread, before the claim was ever made.

It looked like, since no "edited by" showed up, since she is a moderator, that she predicted Colby's claim.

Colby was obviously a wolf, and therefore, her predicting Colby's claim in advance made it seem like she had wolf chat with Colby.

Everything else she posted all game was townie and herself.

Worse, she has terrible memory and DIDNT REMEMBER SHE EDITED THE POST. FLAT OUT DID NOT KNOW SHE DID IT AT ALL. Couldn't explain how it happened, didn't even know that it happened.

That one post made me throw out my town read on her and start over as possibly outed.

I eventually decided..... if every single other post in the game is townie, then she fooled me.

If I can't town read her or wolf read her based on all her other posts, outside of that one anomaly, that might have spewed her wolf wolf with Colby, evidence of sharing a wolf chat, then I didn't want to let a mistake that gross impact the game.

I chose to ignore what should have been outing evidence she couldn't explain as TMI and always wolf wolf with Colby.

I town read her based on 99 percent of her iso otherwise.

And she was town. And we defeated all 3 actual wolves.

I have seen the impossible, wolfiest derps.

I do not accept derp clears anymore, and I do not find derps to be wolfy. Derps are tactics as wolf, and townies can derp so hard, in a wolfy enough way, that I refuse to alignment read a derp anymore.

Forever, as a policy.

If I cannot read you based on 99 out of 100 other posts in your eventual iso, I dont deserve to townread you or wolf catch you based on any derp.

End of policy rant about derpclears and dumbtells.

TLDR, as a policy, due to specific examples over the years, nothing derpclearing is clearing, and wolfy dumbtells can come from townies enough that I throw away all that evidence as crappy evidence.

It's as valid to me now as third on the wagon is always a wolf. It's just not true, it correlated once upon a time.

Derpclears correlated with townie behavior, wolfy dumbtells that look fake correlated with wolfy behavior once upon a time.

We're mostly stone cold veterans.

All that stuff is beyond NAI now. Throw it away.

My advice, ignore me on it if you wanna solve it your own way.

This is the most assertively i think Ive ever declared something null, ever. I am passionate about this being null.

This is in general, I reserve the right to find something particularly difficult to fake derp or find something impossibly wolfy and vote it, but.

It's gotta be super exceptional. Way worse than the Lightfoot example above.

[Cape90]

posts dreamed up by the utterly Deranged

Yeah that's kinda true...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I don't know if I believe it but here is the thing

Let me tell you the kinds of derps and dumbtells I have seen in my ancient amount of years

Last year (I think) Return of the Clowns game, Lightfoot as town with moderator powers was reading the game, and making a post with claims in it.

instead of replying to an old post, she edited that old post, so that she edited in a claim she saw later in the thread, before the claim was ever made.

It looked like, since no "edited by" showed up, since she is a moderator, that she predicted Colby's claim.

Colby was obviously a wolf, and therefore, her predicting Colby's claim in advance made it seem like she had wolf chat with Colby.

Everything else she posted all game was townie and herself.

Worse, she has terrible memory and DIDNT REMEMBER SHE EDITED THE POST. FLAT OUT DID NOT KNOW SHE DID IT AT ALL. Couldn't explain how it happened, didn't even know that it happened.

That one post made me throw out my town read on her and start over as possibly outed.

I eventually decided..... if every single other post in the game is townie, then she fooled me.

If I can't town read her or wolf read her based on all her other posts, outside of that one anomaly, that might have spewed her wolf wolf with Colby, evidence of sharing a wolf chat, then I didn't want to let a mistake that gross impact the game.

I chose to ignore what should have been outing evidence she couldn't explain as TMI and always wolf wolf with Colby.

I town read her based on 99 percent of her iso otherwise.

And she was town. And we defeated all 3 actual wolves.

I have seen the impossible, wolfiest derps.

I do not accept derp clears anymore, and I do not find derps to be wolfy. Derps are tactics as wolf, and townies can derp so hard, in a wolfy enough way, that I refuse to alignment read a derp anymore.

Forever, as a policy.

If I cannot read you based on 99 out of 100 other posts in your eventual iso, I dont deserve to townread you or wolf catch you based on any derp.

End of policy rant about derpclears and dumbtells.

TLDR, as a policy, due to specific examples over the years, nothing derpclearing is clearing, and wolfy dumbtells can come from townies enough that I throw away all that evidence as crappy evidence.

It's as valid to me now as third on the wagon is always a wolf. It's just not true, it correlated once upon a time.

Derpclears correlated with townie behavior, wolfy dumbtells that look fake correlated with wolfy behavior once upon a time.

We're mostly stone cold veterans.

All that stuff is beyond NAI now. Throw it away.

My advice, ignore me on it if you wanna solve it your own way.

This is the most assertively i think Ive ever declared something null, ever. I am passionate about this being null.

This is in general, I reserve the right to find something particularly difficult to fake derp or find something impossibly wolfy and vote it, but.

It's gotta be super exceptional. Way worse than the Lightfoot example above.

Good choice, someone tried to derpclear me when I was mafia before, it is a play I sometimes like doing on purpose. I was just wondering because of this + the reasons you were townreading me. I know both instances are fairly different though.

All of the bolded are wolftells.

Please continue villaging if you are, villagers wolftell.

Interesting post

Random aside - I don't think monty is a Wolfy villager, I just think people find it hard to follow his logic sometimes and then assume it must make him a wolf

I think last game I played with Monty, Monty got POE voted out I think when they were indeed town.

I feel more attacked by this than your naked vote.

I don't necessarily get this. You see, with some of my posts I had humor in mind. I do not get that impression from your posts this game. Perhaps this was posting just to post

Phrased exactly how I mean it, because I am adopting the new closed notebook style for everything null and above.

I do not object to Taffy and Monty seeing Day 2, so far.

Interesting read especially on Taffy who is hardly a presence so far and hasn't been towny at all.
I am assuming this all has to do with some of what Ender said about Taffy

Taffy/Monty = NAI or towny, unsure yet

Taffy I think doesn't treat me like this as wolf but that's much weaker and pending further posts.

So I am taking it Pizza is going with a cautionary angle where Ender has TMI. Though I feel like this POV is better to have if you are actually actively wolfreading Ender which it appears ATPG is not exactly.

Leans list, Closed Notebook style: (All other names redacted, in some order of townie to null, with tiers.)

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Lean wolf (barely... call this "votable" tier.)

5. Ampharos

Unsorted (which means I have reads on everyone else and do not wish to vote unless I can townread Ampharos and/or a lot of unsorteds.)

2. Csargo
6. luvs2spooge
7. dyachei
11. Ladd
12. Vulgard
13. Boquise
15. Renata
17. Kagemusha

Vote: Ampharos

Confidence level: Barely above rand wolf levels of confident, but this slot is neither null nor town lean yet.

as exemplified here. Which also just feels like it isn't exactly aligning with

All of the bolded are wolftells.

Please continue villaging if you are, villagers wolftell.

But maybe I am cosmic braining this since ATPG is saying that Amy was wolftelling over here...

[EnderWiggin]

So I am taking it Pizza is going with a cautionary angle where Ender has TMI. Though I feel like this POV is better to have if you are actually actively wolfreading Ender which it appears ATPG is not exactly.

Taffy comes from my forum. We have some history of me fooling Taffy, and me reading her based around how she treats me.

Why did you think my take was TMI? It was specifically around a read based on me?

[Askthepizzaguy]

(snip, but previous sentences also apply)

But maybe I am cosmic braining this since ATPG is saying that Amy was wolftelling over here...

My scumtell list has been viewed fifteen thousand times. Let's say a thousand of those are me writing the guide, and a bunch are bots. It's still been viewed by hundreds of mafia players, period.

Villagers also scumtell.

Because of my published guide, I am largely disregarding the scumtells process. It is a factor, but it is inaccurate now.

Any wolf familiar with the draft version of the guide will know what tells to avoid now.

There have been example(s) so far of where I entirely threw out or even reversed the scumtells process because players were in the game who I know for a fact have read the scumtells section of my guide.

When I believe that happened, the people scumtelling in a game are town or wolves that are lazy and don't care about being warned what not to post.

I cannot use scumtells as a basis of a vote anymore. Even if I point them out, the value they now hold is equivalent to fractions of a penny per wolftell.

I cannot put stock in the published scumtell list, but in the event it wasn't read or the wolf team writ large is unaware, those are examples of scumtells in a concentrated manner, so I point it out.

And then explain why I'm moving on, because the false positives are outpacing the correct positives over the past few months.

Mainly because the guide has been viewed fifteen thousand times.

[ladd]

Yeah that's kinda true...



Good choice, someone tried to derpclear me when I was mafia before, it is a play I sometimes like doing on purpose. I was just wondering because of this + the reasons you were townreading me. I know both instances are fairly different though.



Interesting post



I think last game I played with Monty, Monty got POE voted out I think when they were indeed town.



I don't necessarily get this. You see, with some of my posts I had humor in mind. I do not get that impression from your posts this game. Perhaps this was posting just to post



Interesting read especially on Taffy who is hardly a presence so far and hasn't been towny at all.
I am assuming this all has to do with some of what Ender said about Taffy





So I am taking it Pizza is going with a cautionary angle where Ender has TMI. Though I feel like this POV is better to have if you are actually actively wolfreading Ender which it appears ATPG is not exactly.



as exemplified here. Which also just feels like it isn't exactly aligning with



But maybe I am cosmic braining this since ATPG is saying that Amy was wolftelling over here...

prob villageriest post so far

red part is so convulted that I don't think a wolf would ~ever be able to coem up with it