Casual december game

[Ampharos]

cape and ender are the only actually funny people in this thread so they can be town

the rest of you are awarded no points, and may god have mercy on your souls

[Ampharos]

Amph, your icon makes me think of Manwha comics except I can't place it.

unfortunately it's fanart of makima chainsaw man

not much of a manwha gal

[EnderWiggin]

Cape is making me laugh.

Not AI but it makes me wanna keep him alive.

[EnderWiggin]

unfortunately it's fanart of makima chainsaw man

not much of a manwha gal

This explains why I felt like I recognised it but couldn't place it lol.

[Cape90]

pizza's manic energy is undeniably real and probably alignment nonindicative

his insistence that rvs won't end until people give reads on him is... odd, and almost somewhat passive in a roundabout sort of way. there are a billion ways for rvs to give way to Real Content, many of which include him giving reads on other people, and the implication that he himself will not be the one to give the read that ends rvs somewhat concerns me

based purely on recollection [i will NOT be doing research, do NOT ask me to] pizza does have a tendency to adopt a thread-protagonist persona as either alignment, but as villager i think it breaks closer to "i'll lead the charge" vs as wolf being "let's all do this together". his actual game-related comments thus far strike me as slightly leaning towards the latter

that said i kinda don't think i'm actually wolfreading him lol

From what I have experienced with Pizza, I can say that a lot of the words you are saying are true in terms of Pizza's meta.

Pizza has not actually thrown out that many reads, but he does townread me

What would be "the read that ends rvs" what exactly does that look like? I am not sure enough people are here out of the 17 players to crawl out of RVS quite yet.

Also I hate the last thing you said in this post. Why all of the sudden do a slight backtrack on your thoughts. It literally contradicts what you said "but as villager i think it breaks closer to "i'll lead the charge" vs as wolf being "let's all do this together". his actual game-related comments thus far strike me as slightly leaning towards the latter"

[Ampharos]

What would be "the read that ends rvs" what exactly does that look like? I am not sure enough people are here out of the 17 players to crawl out of RVS quite yet.

the secret is that rvs is literally fake and ends at a different point for every player

i, for one, am no longer in rvs. perhaps you disagree, and that's fine!

Also I hate the last thing you said in this post. Why all of the sudden do a slight backtrack on your thoughts. It literally contradicts what you said "but as villager i think it breaks closer to "i'll lead the charge" vs as wolf being "let's all do this together". his actual game-related comments thus far strike me as slightly leaning towards the latter"

mostly because vibes, with a side helping of "i'm stupid"

[Askthepizzaguy]

sure why not

the only semi-solid read I currently have is you're weird and I'm not sure if I trust you. I remember you opening weirdly in a mash maybe it was and you flipped wolf and this opening reminded me of that opening, which is why I voted for you.

Excellent.

I know exactly which post(s) you're comparing this opening to.

I believe you believe that.

I can keep you null, in some sort of townie/null quantum state. Let's call it a "Not Wolfread".

[Ampharos]

Excellent.

I know exactly which post(s) you're comparing this opening to.

I believe you believe that.

I can keep you null, in some sort of townie/null quantum state. Let's call it a "Not Wolfread".

posts dreamed up by the utterly Deranged

[Askthepizzaguy]

I wonder what ATPG thinks of this dumbtell

Which is a roundabout way of me asking him :D

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I don't know if I believe it but here is the thing

Let me tell you the kinds of derps and dumbtells I have seen in my ancient amount of years

Last year (I think) Return of the Clowns game, Lightfoot as town with moderator powers was reading the game, and making a post with claims in it.

instead of replying to an old post, she edited that old post, so that she edited in a claim she saw later in the thread, before the claim was ever made.

It looked like, since no "edited by" showed up, since she is a moderator, that she predicted Colby's claim.

Colby was obviously a wolf, and therefore, her predicting Colby's claim in advance made it seem like she had wolf chat with Colby.

Everything else she posted all game was townie and herself.

Worse, she has terrible memory and DIDNT REMEMBER SHE EDITED THE POST. FLAT OUT DID NOT KNOW SHE DID IT AT ALL. Couldn't explain how it happened, didn't even know that it happened.

That one post made me throw out my town read on her and start over as possibly outed.

I eventually decided..... if every single other post in the game is townie, then she fooled me.

If I can't town read her or wolf read her based on all her other posts, outside of that one anomaly, that might have spewed her wolf wolf with Colby, evidence of sharing a wolf chat, then I didn't want to let a mistake that gross impact the game.

I chose to ignore what should have been outing evidence she couldn't explain as TMI and always wolf wolf with Colby.

I town read her based on 99 percent of her iso otherwise.

And she was town. And we defeated all 3 actual wolves.

I have seen the impossible, wolfiest derps.

I do not accept derp clears anymore, and I do not find derps to be wolfy. Derps are tactics as wolf, and townies can derp so hard, in a wolfy enough way, that I refuse to alignment read a derp anymore.

Forever, as a policy.

If I cannot read you based on 99 out of 100 other posts in your eventual iso, I dont deserve to townread you or wolf catch you based on any derp.

End of policy rant about derpclears and dumbtells.

TLDR, as a policy, due to specific examples over the years, nothing derpclearing is clearing, and wolfy dumbtells can come from townies enough that I throw away all that evidence as crappy evidence.

It's as valid to me now as third on the wagon is always a wolf. It's just not true, it correlated once upon a time.

Derpclears correlated with townie behavior, wolfy dumbtells that look fake correlated with wolfy behavior once upon a time.

We're mostly stone cold veterans.

All that stuff is beyond NAI now. Throw it away.

My advice, ignore me on it if you wanna solve it your own way.

This is the most assertively i think Ive ever declared something null, ever. I am passionate about this being null.

This is in general, I reserve the right to find something particularly difficult to fake derp or find something impossibly wolfy and vote it, but.

It's gotta be super exceptional. Way worse than the Lightfoot example above.

[hollowkatt]

HK used to like playing with me.

Then he took an EnderTunnel to the knee.

I still like playing with you. I'm just not as free with the town read as I used to be

[Askthepizzaguy]

pizza's manic energy is undeniably real and probably alignment nonindicative

his insistence that rvs won't end until people give reads on him is... odd, and almost somewhat passive in a roundabout sort of way. there are a billion ways for rvs to give way to Real Content, many of which include him giving reads on other people, and the implication that he himself will not be the one to give the read that ends rvs somewhat concerns me

based purely on recollection [i will NOT be doing research, do NOT ask me to] pizza does have a tendency to adopt a thread-protagonist persona as either alignment, but as villager i think it breaks closer to "i'll lead the charge" vs as wolf being "let's all do this together". his actual game-related comments thus far strike me as slightly leaning towards the latter

that said i kinda don't think i'm actually wolfreading him lol

All of the bolded are wolftells.

Please continue villaging if you are, villagers wolftell.

[Askthepizzaguy]

cape and ender are the only actually funny people in this thread so they can be town

the rest of you are awarded no points, and may god have mercy on your souls

To assist me in "NotWolfreading" you, please give post numbers or quotes of the things they said you found funny.

Do not tell me why you found them funny.

[Visor]

Random aside - I don't think monty is a Wolfy villager, I just think people find it hard to follow his logic sometimes and then assume it must make him a wolf

[Logic]

cape and ender are the only actually funny people in this thread so they can be town

the rest of you are awarded no points, and may god have mercy on your souls

I feel more attacked by this than your naked vote.

[Visor]

Logic and ender a touch Wolfy so far

[Askthepizzaguy]

sure why not

the only semi-solid read I currently have is you're weird and I'm not sure if I trust you. I remember you opening weirdly in a mash maybe it was and you flipped wolf and this opening reminded me of that opening, which is why I voted for you.

You don't believe in towntells, I stopped believing in dumbtells and derpclears.

I am also open to discussing who you think is town, when you have townreads.

I will null every townread I have publicly and leave probably only Cape90 as town today, as a policy.

If I am to be yeeted I will out all my townreads at once and explain why and also tell people not to blindly sheep it.

If I am to be murdered it is because wolves think I can solve it or I have partially solved it and it is not something you should read me for spew to sheep.

If I have something I do want sheeped I will say so publicly in a very easy to understand manner and people can flat out ignore that request and solve it their own selves based on superior data from later rounds.

If all of those policies pass your okayness bar, lettuce hunt werewolves.

If you suspect me keep two lists, one where pizza is town, and devote some time to solving in that world. Any amount will do, just believe it can happen.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Random aside - I don't think monty is a Wolfy villager, I just think people find it hard to follow his logic sometimes and then assume it must make him a wolf

I am thinking of games that are ancient at this point. Last 2 meetings with Monty, again, over the past 5 years, were when he was a wolf twice.

[EnderWiggin]

What is it about how I post that gets me wolfread every other game.

I swear I flip a coin at gamestart and no matter how I'm trying to post I get a bunch of early wolfreads or townreads and I don't feel like I'm posting any different.

And it's not alignment reliant because it's happened both ways as either alignment.

[EnderWiggin]

Random aside - I don't think monty is a Wolfy villager, I just think people find it hard to follow his logic sometimes and then assume it must make him a wolf

If I'm honest I was weaponising exactly this to see how people reacted to my Monty vote with no reasons.

[Askthepizzaguy]

What is it about how I post that gets me wolfread every other game.

I swear I flip a coin at gamestart and no matter how I'm trying to post I get a bunch of early wolfreads or townreads and I don't feel like I'm posting any different.

And it's not alignment reliant because it's happened both ways as either alignment.

Are the people wolf reading you villagers?

If so, why.

[EnderWiggin]

Are the people wolf reading you villagers?

If so, why.

I actually probably should collate reasons more I'm just baffled by how it changes game to game.

And yes usually by villagers with some wolves mixed in.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I actually probably should collate reasons more I'm just baffled by how it changes game to game.

And yes usually by villagers with some wolves mixed in.

I was asking specifically, the people wolf reading you this game.

Name by name, do you think they are town or mafia yet, or do you not have an opinion?

[EnderWiggin]

I was asking specifically, the people wolf reading you this game.

Name by name, do you think they are town or mafia yet, or do you not have an opinion?

Taffy/Monty = NAI or towny, unsure yet
Pizza = I have thoughts about this response but it's NAI broadly
Logic = wolfy (If I'm right on this then Monty is 100% town because the tell is how Logic "Piggybacked" off the read to push me.)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Leans list, Closed Notebook style: (All other names redacted, in some order of townie to null, with tiers.)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Lean wolf (barely... call this "votable" tier.)

5. Ampharos

Unsorted (which means I have reads on everyone else and do not wish to vote unless I can townread Ampharos and/or a lot of unsorteds.)

2. Csargo
6. luvs2spooge
7. dyachei
11. Ladd
12. Vulgard
13. Boquise
15. Renata
17. Kagemusha

Vote: Ampharos

Confidence level: Barely above rand wolf levels of confident, but this slot is neither null nor town lean yet.

[EnderWiggin]

For Monty I think the piggyback and the response is broadly a towny response.

Taffy I think doesn't treat me like this as wolf but that's much weaker and pending further posts.

Hence why both are in the Towny/NAI bracket and no one is Towny with no NAI

[EnderWiggin]

Leans list, Closed Notebook style: (All other names redacted, in some order of townie to null, with tiers.)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Lean wolf (barely... call this "votable" tier.)

5. Ampharos

Unsorted (which means I have reads on everyone else and do not wish to vote unless I can townread Ampharos and/or a lot of unsorteds.)

2. Csargo
6. luvs2spooge
7. dyachei
11. Ladd
12. Vulgard
13. Boquise
15. Renata
17. Kagemusha

Vote: Ampharos

Confidence level: Barely above rand wolf levels of confident, but this slot is neither null nor town lean yet.

Allow me to put a "Wolfy Inch-resting" on this post.

[Askthepizzaguy]

For Monty I think the piggyback and the response is broadly a towny response.

Taffy I think doesn't treat me like this as wolf but that's much weaker and pending further posts.

Hence why both are in the Towny/NAI bracket and no one is Towny with no NAI

Phrased exactly how I mean it, because I am adopting the new closed notebook style for everything null and above.

I do not object to Taffy and Monty seeing Day 2, so far.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Allow me to put a "Wolfy Inch-resting" on this post.

"interesting" to translate for those hard of parsing stuff like that. Wolfy because he's referring to my scumtells.

You are the name that is one slot above Ampharos atm, Bladescape.

The reason you are not in votable tier is because I strongly suspect you're doing everything you've done so far this round which isn't villagery or is "scummy" on purpose.

That's clever and all but don't please.

[Ampharos]

All of the bolded are wolftells.

Please continue villaging if you are, villagers wolftell.

did you know i once got my car searched by the cops because they asked if i had weed and i said "probably not, no"

note: i do not smoke weed

[EnderWiggin]

"interesting" to translate for those hard of parsing stuff like that. Wolfy because he's referring to my scumtells.

You are the name that is one slot above Ampharos atm, Bladescape.

The reason you are not in votable tier is because I strongly suspect you're doing everything you've done so far this round which isn't villagery or is "scummy" on purpose.

That's clever and all but don't please.

I have only made two intentionally wolfy moves so far. Everything else is just me as me as me.

Here's the fun part though.

I think we aren't aligned, you and I. Maybe it's the closed notebook. Maybe it's something else, but there was something I expected to see from you if you're town that I haven't already seen.

I don't want to push this yet because I prefer playing town/town with you and want to find you if you are on my side. (Look, intentional wordage to imply my towniness!)

But I have my eye on you friendo.