It is now 4am, and last I slept was around 11am yesterday.
Sense of humor dropped off because large levels of tired creeped in about an hour ago, but I wanted to do opening leans list isos.
Couldn't do that and also maintain jokey socializing. Brain turned "socially switched off" around then due to exhaustion.
Isoing here is a pain, I find something unique-to-the-player, or their exact postcount (with lots of open tabs that do not update even if they keep posting) and use CTRL+F to search next post.
Takes a few more clicks, but it's faster than the Org's servers ever generating a valid search. Waited 2 minutes, gave up.
I have only made two intentionally wolfy moves so far. Everything else is just me as me as me.
Here's the fun part though.
I think we aren't aligned, you and I. Maybe it's the closed notebook. Maybe it's something else, but there was something I expected to see from you if you're town that I haven't already seen.
I don't want to push this yet because I prefer playing town/town with you and want to find you if you are on my side. (Look, intentional wordage to imply my towniness!)
But I have my eye on you friendo.
If we aren't aligned then I vote for you today and yeet you in so doing.
Maybe it's the tired, but "i was expecting to see X from pizza so far" in the first 20 posts I make a couple hours into the game is F tier and I don't have patience for that because it isn't any sort of villaging I expect from a player of bladescape's caliber as town.
It is a not great read and I should've kept mum on it like I said I would because I wanted to see if you'd get back to it later and it wasn't 24 hours into the day.
I regret posting that for purely the reason that you're right it's very premature.
It is a not great read and I should've kept mum on it like I said I would because I wanted to see if you'd get back to it later and it wasn't 24 hours into the day.
I regret posting that for purely the reason that you're right it's very premature.
It's early yet, and my read on the game state is that on average 2 wolves are zero posters.
But I do not think I have a lot of wolves in my townnull collection so far. You and Amy are the wolfiest 2 actives.
I reassess all day, don't make final judgments until I have to place a final vote, and absolutely reassess overnight.
If I do not dome you today, then day 2 I will render a judgment on the matter and vote you then or come out with a town read with reasons.
Yeet a wolf today, it will be helpful for both of us if we're both town. Me isn't gonna do it.
You don't believe in towntells, I stopped believing in dumbtells and derpclears.
I am also open to discussing who you think is town, when you have townreads.
I will null every townread I have publicly and leave probably only Cape90 as town today, as a policy.
If I am to be yeeted I will out all my townreads at once and explain why and also tell people not to blindly sheep it.
If I am to be murdered it is because wolves think I can solve it or I have partially solved it and it is not something you should read me for spew to sheep.
If I have something I do want sheeped I will say so publicly in a very easy to understand manner and people can flat out ignore that request and solve it their own selves based on superior data from later rounds.
If all of those policies pass your okayness bar, lettuce hunt werewolves.
If you suspect me keep two lists, one where pizza is town, and devote some time to solving in that world. Any amount will do, just believe it can happen.
none of this doesn't make sense so sure.
I'll share my town reads if/when I arrive at them, there's a slight niggling of something on Ender I think is positive but I'm sitting on that for the time being.
I don't believe in towntells because I think any wolf worth their salt can towntell, like you said in 189 only replace derp/dumb with town or wolf at your leisure.
Ok. Let us see. I have not played mafia for i don?t remember how many years and some of you i i know, most i do not.So far i dont get much wolfines from the thread. The only thing really poking my eye is why Monty ignores to answer Taffy?s question about roles and knowledge, maybe you just missed it? What town needs is more talk from more people. More the merrier, so maybe poke some action? Vote: Csargo How are you old buddy?
Unless a cop or a vig claims on day one, or you are a masonry and have someone you know for a fact needs protection, I will request 1 doctor protection for night one.
I am doing it right now, well before anyone suspects me, before anyone has started doing anything, before I have earned it by yeeting a wolf, and after saying I will probably slank on day one.
Why? Because I would like to read the game overnight, after the day one flip, and actually be able to post my analysis at start of day two.
I have been unable to do that in half of my games. So, if you have nothing better, no reason to go elsewhere, I request just that one night.
Roleblocking me is also fine, if you're a jailer. That is perfectly reasonable.
I have no night abilities, or if I do, you can roleblock them n1 and it won't matter to me at all.
This is towny.
Originally Posted by Cape90
So I see Pizza randed wolf
How is your day going?
Did you read his pregame posting? It's relevant here.
Originally Posted by Logic
Pizza doing stuff that I won't be able to read until later, most likely after he is dead, where I will go "oh, that was so obvious of alignment in hindsight!"
As for me, I kinda wanted to copy-paste from my last wolfgame here on the org, but that would be solely for pizza's benefit, and I've already devoted 2 paragraphs to him and mentioned literally no one else.
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My opinion switch was less about what Logic did and more about my thought process. I wasn't happy with me having called Logic towny for that post and 180'd.
I don't know if I believe it but here is the thing
Let me tell you the kinds of derps and dumbtells I have seen in my ancient amount of years
Last year (I think) Return of the Clowns game, Lightfoot as town with moderator powers was reading the game, and making a post with claims in it.
instead of replying to an old post, she edited that old post, so that she edited in a claim she saw later in the thread, before the claim was ever made.
It looked like, since no "edited by" showed up, since she is a moderator, that she predicted Colby's claim.
Colby was obviously a wolf, and therefore, her predicting Colby's claim in advance made it seem like she had wolf chat with Colby.
Everything else she posted all game was townie and herself.
Worse, she has terrible memory and DIDNT REMEMBER SHE EDITED THE POST. FLAT OUT DID NOT KNOW SHE DID IT AT ALL. Couldn't explain how it happened, didn't even know that it happened.
That one post made me throw out my town read on her and start over as possibly outed.
I eventually decided..... if every single other post in the game is townie, then she fooled me.
If I can't town read her or wolf read her based on all her other posts, outside of that one anomaly, that might have spewed her wolf wolf with Colby, evidence of sharing a wolf chat, then I didn't want to let a mistake that gross impact the game.
I chose to ignore what should have been outing evidence she couldn't explain as TMI and always wolf wolf with Colby.
I town read her based on 99 percent of her iso otherwise.
And she was town. And we defeated all 3 actual wolves.
I have seen the impossible, wolfiest derps.
I do not accept derp clears anymore, and I do not find derps to be wolfy. Derps are tactics as wolf, and townies can derp so hard, in a wolfy enough way, that I refuse to alignment read a derp anymore.
Forever, as a policy.
If I cannot read you based on 99 out of 100 other posts in your eventual iso, I dont deserve to townread you or wolf catch you based on any derp.
End of policy rant about derpclears and dumbtells.
TLDR, as a policy, due to specific examples over the years, nothing derpclearing is clearing, and wolfy dumbtells can come from townies enough that I throw away all that evidence as crappy evidence.
It's as valid to me now as third on the wagon is always a wolf. It's just not true, it correlated once upon a time.
Derpclears correlated with townie behavior, wolfy dumbtells that look fake correlated with wolfy behavior once upon a time.
We're mostly stone cold veterans.
All that stuff is beyond NAI now. Throw it away.
My advice, ignore me on it if you wanna solve it your own way.
This is the most assertively i think Ive ever declared something null, ever. I am passionate about this being null.
This is in general, I reserve the right to find something particularly difficult to fake derp or find something impossibly wolfy and vote it, but.
It's gotta be super exceptional. Way worse than the Lightfoot example above.
Good choice, someone tried to derpclear me when I was mafia before, it is a play I sometimes like doing on purpose. I was just wondering because of this + the reasons you were townreading me. I know both instances are fairly different though.
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
All of the bolded are wolftells.
Please continue villaging if you are, villagers wolftell.
Interesting post
Originally Posted by Visor
Random aside - I don't think monty is a Wolfy villager, I just think people find it hard to follow his logic sometimes and then assume it must make him a wolf
I think last game I played with Monty, Monty got POE voted out I think when they were indeed town.
Originally Posted by Logic
I feel more attacked by this than your naked vote.
I don't necessarily get this. You see, with some of my posts I had humor in mind. I do not get that impression from your posts this game. Perhaps this was posting just to post
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Phrased exactly how I mean it, because I am adopting the new closed notebook style for everything null and above.
I do not object to Taffy and Monty seeing Day 2, so far.
Interesting read especially on Taffy who is hardly a presence so far and hasn't been towny at all.
I am assuming this all has to do with some of what Ender said about Taffy
Taffy/Monty = NAI or towny, unsure yet
Taffy I think doesn't treat me like this as wolf but that's much weaker and pending further posts.
So I am taking it Pizza is going with a cautionary angle where Ender has TMI. Though I feel like this POV is better to have if you are actually actively wolfreading Ender which it appears ATPG is not exactly.
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Leans list, Closed Notebook style: (All other names redacted, in some order of townie to null, with tiers.)
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Lean wolf (barely... call this "votable" tier.)
5. Ampharos
Unsorted (which means I have reads on everyone else and do not wish to vote unless I can townread Ampharos and/or a lot of unsorteds.)
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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
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