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    Will wait until you have had sleep but this is not a great post imo.
    Why.

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    Why.
    Limited town reads, wide scumpool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    Limited town reads, wide scumpool.
    I'm not sure whether that's weak or perfectly fair. Don't expect a lot of free town reads from me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    I'm not sure whether that's weak or perfectly fair. Don't expect a lot of free town reads from me though.
    Unless you can tier your POE having a wide POE makes for very open kill pool which is exactly what a scumteam wants.

    It means if you aren't wolf yourself there are multiple ways they can pull you to get you to help them wagon a town.

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    It was unsaid but "Having a wide sus pool" as wolf has obvious benefits.

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    That's just going to happen, then. I'm not a strategic player.

    Wondering right now how your talk about sheeping luvs correlates with Logic being town, you town-reading Vulgard (vague promise to maybe look at them later notwithstanding) and you saying you think Pizza clear. It really doesn't seem to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    That's just going to happen, then. I'm not a strategic player.

    Wondering right now how your talk about sheeping luvs correlates with Logic being town, you town-reading Vulgard (vague promise to maybe look at them later notwithstanding) and you saying you think Pizza clear. It really doesn't seem to.
    I never said I'd sheep Luvs reads.

    In fact I explicitly didn't name anyone for the Sheeping question because I review others thoughts at best.

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    I think I misread, forget that comment.

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    I said that Luvs had some of the best process D1 because of the way he poked at things.

    Best process doesn't mean that I should sheep their reads. It does mean that I seriously consider it.

    And as for the Pizza townread that is 90% allowing him his 24 hours of being treated as lock clear. I will give him his request and see what happens.

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    Csargo/Visor maybe clear from that claim.

    I'm going to hold onto a "Wolves claiming Mason" but I don't think either were up for votes enough for them to do that there. So clearing them.

    Pizza probably clear from the wifom play he's doing. I'm willing to entertain it until he claims midday in about 21.5ish hours.

    Renata/Taffy/Amy/Cape are the people I think have towntold in a significant manner. Amy possibly pocketed me but I'm reviewing.

    Vulgard is the person I wanna townread but for respect for Luvs I'm going to drop my pre-read and reconsider them.

    Kage/Ladd/Dyachei are the grouping I don't really have a read on properly rn.

    HK/Monty/Boq are the three names I really want to dig into today because I think a wolf exists in that.

    This list is pendingpossiblechanges depending on how I read through things when I have time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    Csargo/Visor maybe clear from that claim.

    I'm going to hold onto a "Wolves claiming Mason" but I don't think either were up for votes enough for them to do that there. So clearing them.

    Pizza probably clear from the wifom play he's doing. I'm willing to entertain it until he claims midday in about 21.5ish hours.

    Renata/Taffy/Amy/Cape are the people I think have towntold in a significant manner. Amy possibly pocketed me but I'm reviewing.

    Vulgard is the person I wanna townread but for respect for Luvs I'm going to drop my pre-read and reconsider them.

    Kage/Ladd/Dyachei are the grouping I don't really have a read on properly rn.

    HK/Monty/Boq are the three names I really want to dig into today because I think a wolf exists in that.

    This list is pendingpossiblechanges depending on how I read through things when I have time.
    i wish all of this wasn't underwhelming

    I wouldn't be surprised if the claim was fake but i don't suspect either so meh

    Pizza isn't cleared off that try again. It looks towny but I wouldn't go that far in a slot that should at least be looked at with more caution since strong player.

    Renata? You are at the very least gonna have to explain that one

    POE of HK/Monty/Boq is very different from what I had.

    I have seen Boq respond to pressure very poorly when wolf though, though who knows if that's AI all the time or mood dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 View Post
    i wish all of this wasn't underwhelming

    I wouldn't be surprised if the claim was fake but i don't suspect either so meh

    Pizza isn't cleared off that try again. It looks towny but I wouldn't go that far in a slot that should at least be looked at with more caution since strong player.

    Renata? You are at the very least gonna have to explain that one

    POE of HK/Monty/Boq is very different from what I had.

    I have seen Boq respond to pressure very poorly when wolf though, though who knows if that's AI all the time or mood dependent.
    it is
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    and I got scared
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Csargo View Post
    it is
    fake just be clear.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sooh View Post
    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Csargo View Post
    it is
    There was no basis for Visor doing it, and I already need doc protection if I succeed, so it was fake as soon as I saw it and your response was not a confirmation.

    Visor is not doing much solving today and I'm inclined to want him dead.
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    I think I want to see Csargo either confirm or deny Visor's mason claim right about now. It's getting in the way of my reads of the Logic wagon.

    [quote'i wish all of this wasn't underwhelming [/quote]

    This, more or less.

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    It is fake?

    Ok, if Ender is mafia then Visor is the save. It's not me and I don't think it's Cape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    It is fake?

    Ok, if Ender is mafia then Visor is the save. It's not me and I don't think it's Cape.
    I am not a mason with visor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sooh View Post
    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Csargo View Post
    I am not a mason with visor.
    Well.

    Lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 View Post
    i wish all of this wasn't underwhelming

    I wouldn't be surprised if the claim was fake but i don't suspect either so meh

    Pizza isn't cleared off that try again. It looks towny but I wouldn't go that far in a slot that should at least be looked at with more caution since strong player.

    Renata? You are at the very least gonna have to explain that one

    POE of HK/Monty/Boq is very different from what I had.

    I have seen Boq respond to pressure very poorly when wolf though, though who knows if that's AI all the time or mood dependent.
    Why do you open this comment with saying it's underwhelming? How is a spattered reads list that I threw together to note my current state when I clearly had already said I was low on time make you think it's supposed to blow your socks off?

    Pizza asked to be treated clear for 24 hours and then he would claim. I am agreeing to that. You don't have to. That invalidates your note there tho.

    Renata D1 specifically did towny.

    So Monty/HK are your partners? Good to know.

    (Please tell me I'm not the only one that read this post and frowned.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei View Post
    my meta has changed drastically since having Amy. You may want to check out some of my recent games.
    Not "our" Amy. ?

    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    3: My basis was built around how I felt like Logic was being uncomfortable in thread in a way that I thought fit with his wolf meta. I also thought he'd done a wolf tell with the way he occasionally popped in while others were doing things and then did like one post of fluff or low level interaction.
    Logic usually vibes uncomfortable in the thread. But shit happens. How far did you consider self-pres onto Amy?

    4: I don't know yet. I don't think wolves had a particularly strong reason to necessarily want Logic over me, and I'm going to be looking at my own wagon first for it. But if I were to point a direction I'd point at the subset of {Vulgard, Taffy ,Visor, Renata} - Gut wants to remove Vulgard but I am going to review that because Luvs had Vul as wolfy.
    None of those players were on - wait, I'm furrowing my brow here. In this post you didn't rate the Logic wagon highly as a candidate for scum, preferring to look into your own wagon, yet the names you listed were all on the Logic wagon (minus Cape and Amp). And soon after pointing FOS at "Vulgard, Taffy ,Visor, Renata", you said "Renata/Taffy/Amy/Cape are the people I think have towntold in a significant manner." I'm just having trouble understanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Csargo View Post
    it is
    The claim is fake?

    and I got scared
    So Visor is the fake mason and you are the real mason? Whatta slip!
    It's OK, I've already rewritten my leans list.
    But hold up - if Visor fake-claimed mason after his D1, isn't that well into policy-oust territory?
    And #963 feels more like approval than fear. Will have to defer judgement until Visor reappears.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    Why do you open this comment with saying it's underwhelming? How is a spattered reads list that I threw together to note my current state when I clearly had already said I was low on time make you think it's supposed to blow your socks off?

    Pizza asked to be treated clear for 24 hours and then he would claim. I am agreeing to that. You don't have to. That invalidates your note there tho.

    Renata D1 specifically did towny.
    Hold your horses.

    (Please tell me I'm not the only one that read this post and frowned.)
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    Vitiate Man.

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    Light TL
    Csargo. Prefers romantic to fraternal relationships.
    HK

    Null
    Cape: I need to evaluate his well-regarded D1 contributions, but for now high-null.
    Ladd & dyachei have rolled mafia in Org games I've - many of us have - played in. I don't remember any meta. Null.
    Taffy & Boquise: no idea. Null.
    Kage: Pure null.
    Vulgard: Sheeping Luv and Pizza on him to low-null.

    Light SL
    Amp
    Renata
    Visor [pending mason claim clarification]
    Ender

    Special
    ATPG. Is your PR to suicide-bomb 3 of us? That would be a suitably-holy mission.
    Vitiate Man.

    History repeats the old conceits
    The glib replies, the same defeats


    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Light TL
    Csargo. Prefers romantic to fraternal relationships.
    HK

    Null
    Cape: I need to evaluate his well-regarded D1 contributions, but for now high-null.
    Ladd & dyachei have rolled mafia in Org games I've - many of us have - played in. I don't remember any meta. Null.
    Taffy & Boquise: no idea. Null.
    Kage: Pure null.
    Vulgard: Sheeping Luv and Pizza on him to low-null.

    Light SL
    Amp
    Renata
    Visor [pending mason claim clarification]
    Ender

    Special
    ATPG. Is your PR to suicide-bomb 3 of us? That would be a suitably-holy mission.
    The amount of nulls in this post is too damn high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Light TL
    Csargo. Prefers romantic to fraternal relationships.
    HK

    Null
    Cape: I need to evaluate his well-regarded D1 contributions, but for now high-null.
    Ladd & dyachei have rolled mafia in Org games I've - many of us have - played in. I don't remember any meta. Null.
    Taffy & Boquise: no idea. Null.
    Kage: Pure null.
    Vulgard: Sheeping Luv and Pizza on him to low-null.

    Light SL
    Amp
    Renata
    Visor [pending mason claim clarification]
    Ender

    Special
    ATPG. Is your PR to suicide-bomb 3 of us? That would be a suitably-holy mission.
    Yes villager Monty, I explode today and kill others.

    You being the last person to figure it out makes you town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Ladd & dyachei have rolled mafia in Org games I've - many of us have - played in. I don't remember any meta. Null.
    Hindsight this post is hilarious for this line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Logic usually vibes uncomfortable in the thread. But shit happens. How far did you consider self-pres onto Amy?
    Not really at all. I don't yeet someone I townread because they're not me. I hope people understand my positions later. And then hope I'm not wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    None of those players were on - wait, I'm furrowing my brow here. In this post you didn't rate the Logic wagon highly as a candidate for scum, preferring to look into your own wagon, yet the names you listed were all on the Logic wagon (minus Cape and Amp). And soon after pointing FOS at "Vulgard, Taffy ,Visor, Renata", you said "Renata/Taffy/Amy/Cape are the people I think have towntold in a significant manner." I'm just having trouble understanding.
    Question = "Who do you think could be wolf on Logic wagon."

    My response = "I don't think there is (Because I townread a lot of them) BUT IF I WERE TO PICK A NAME IT WOULD BE IN THIS SUBSET."

    Now next time read more closely if you're confused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    So Visor is the fake mason and you are the real mason? Whatta slip!
    It's OK, I've already rewritten my leans list.
    But hold up - if Visor fake-claimed mason after his D1, isn't that well into policy-oust territory?
    And #963 feels more like approval than fear. Will have to defer judgement until Visor reappears.
    What the hell is this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    Why do you open this comment with saying it's underwhelming? How is a spattered reads list that I threw together to note my current state when I clearly had already said I was low on time make you think it's supposed to blow your socks off?

    Pizza asked to be treated clear for 24 hours and then he would claim. I am agreeing to that. You don't have to. That invalidates your note there tho.

    Renata D1 specifically did towny.

    So Monty/HK are your partners? Good to know.

    (Please tell me I'm not the only one that read this post and frowned.)
    How about you put some real effort into your solve as if you want to convince anyone at all that your solve is one you believe

    For your whole day one you played with some level of confidence. To enter day two and suddenly have less confidence instead of more, doesn't make sense.

    Don't you have MORE information now than you did on day one?

    Don't you have a smaller pool of suspects?

    As the counterwagon, you have a unique insight as to what the wolves probably did. I don't see you aggressively pursuing any suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    How about you put some real effort into your solve as if you want to convince anyone at all that your solve is one you believe

    For your whole day one you played with some level of confidence. To enter day two and suddenly have less confidence instead of more, doesn't make sense.

    Don't you have MORE information now than you did on day one?

    Don't you have a smaller pool of suspects?

    As the counterwagon, you have a unique insight as to what the wolves probably did. I don't see you aggressively pursuing any suspect.
    It's almost like I confidently lead town to yeet...

    A town.

    Lmao.

    I'm tiredly reading along but I couldn't let this go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    Csargo/Visor maybe clear from that claim.

    I'm going to hold onto a "Wolves claiming Mason" but I don't think either were up for votes enough for them to do that there. So clearing them.

    Pizza probably clear from the wifom play he's doing. I'm willing to entertain it until he claims midday in about 21.5ish hours.

    Renata/Taffy/Amy/Cape are the people I think have towntold in a significant manner. Amy possibly pocketed me but I'm reviewing.

    Vulgard is the person I wanna townread but for respect for Luvs I'm going to drop my pre-read and reconsider them.

    Kage/Ladd/Dyachei are the grouping I don't really have a read on properly rn.

    HK/Monty/Boq are the three names I really want to dig into today because I think a wolf exists in that.

    This list is pendingpossiblechanges depending on how I read through things when I have time.
    if you're a wolf at least one partner is in the Kage/Ladd/Dya bucket

    I also don't think clearing csargo/visor via claims is a good idea but I understand your logic behind doing it.
    Why do you want to town read vulgard and why did you phrase it the way you did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt View Post
    if you're a wolf at least one partner is in the Kage/Ladd/Dya bucket

    I also don't think clearing csargo/visor via claims is a good idea but I understand your logic behind doing it.
    Why do you want to town read vulgard and why did you phrase it the way you did?
    The reason I want to townread Vul is in D1 where I defend him for 90% of the day because I townread him.

    And I say why even.

    Surprisingly.

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