Casual december game

[Csargo]

I'm pretty sure my iso kinda proves that

yeet me if you want tho

[EnderWiggin]

I will admit that I had Taffy as townish still and was vote-hovering her with the intent to last minute snipe back just to see if anyone would take the bait.

[Renata]

Taffy looks a little short of potential partners, maybe.

[Renata]

At least among active players.

[Csargo]

What does that mean Renata?

[Renata]

Unsorted.

I love all of these people and am sad that there's on average 2+ wolves in this list.



Me bracing myself for votes I won't like to make later on.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Please for the love of god be villagery so I have to redo my nulltown pile.

Click through to the list. lol.

[EnderWiggin]

Also glad to have towned with you Vul.

Glad I found you early too.

I'll see you in dvc

o7

[Csargo]

Click through to the list. lol.

[EnderWiggin]

I am also clearing Monty for now. There's still not 100% clear but I'll be surprised if they were w/w/w with Dya/Ladd specifically

[EnderWiggin]

I'm doing to do a proper Dya spew analysis but like later.

[Csargo]

we were all on ender, it'd be kinda funny if true.

[hollowkatt]

looks at csargo

I thought they were both woofs

Possible sure

[EnderWiggin]

You've seen villagers do it, too

Slowly leaning into Boq unpairings.

[EnderWiggin]

I'm not doing nothing else though?

See previous post this is just more of it

[EnderWiggin]

There's a really stupid reason to town Csargo and I might get burned for it but doing it anyway

[EnderWiggin]

Ladd & dyachei have rolled mafia in Org games I've - many of us have - played in. I don't remember any meta. Null.

Hindsight this post is hilarious for this line.

[Renata]

Trying to go through Dyachei's iso, distracted by Csargo being wolfy. This is a response to Pizza about Pizza's push on Ender over Ender's Logic case.

I liked the Logic post, mostly cause I agree with it. And it doesn't really preclude Logic from engaging with it, but it is sort of passive in the way you described.

The post on you just seems wrong from my experience at least. The last line is bad in the post about you imo, the rest in fine^tm.

Overall, it's not great I'd agree.

"liked", "passive", "wrong", "bad", "fine"

This follows a post about Logic that used "weird" "odd" and "meh" to sum up to a "negative" opinion.

It's the same thing as he did in his case on me the other day, aside from trying to link me to wolf!Ender. Lots and lots of shade (and somewhat contradictory in Ender's case), no commitment. This is why I had Csargo in my PoE early day two.

Anyway, back to Dyachei.

[Renata]

There's a really stupid reason to town Csargo and I might get burned for it but doing it anyway

I currently have tinfoil on you if Csargo flips wolf and you don't die. But probably both of those would have to be true.

[hollowkatt]

Taffy is Schrodinger's Player and I think it would be good if we can solve them today. And by solve I mean actually solve not just chop and hope for the best. I'm tentatively working on the idea that Taffy was the wagon to save Dya but I haven't confirmed any of that yet. I'm going to review how the wagons were created, who moved where and when, and see what I can figure out.

I'd call Ender town for sure. This post from Monty worries me

Love both Amy and Kage being offwagon today.

@Vulgard

If dyachei flips scum, please put in the time to ISO them overnight. I think it's going to pay off for us.

Vulgard could really lead the Town.


If only Mafia D1s still looked like this D3.

Specifically he's banking, if town, on there being a protect that could be on vulgard, he calls out Amy and Kage for being off wagon while not mentioning that the wagon he is on is a wagon of two, Monty/Csargo on Taffy

Can the dya wagon be pure? Taffy was there as self-pres, we know that to be true. No alignment can be discerned there.
I think Ender is town. I'm town. I think Boq is town, or at least thought so when we real timed. Vulgard was confirmed town already, and is now dead and extra confirmed.
That leaves Renata on the wagon and honestly I've felt good about their posting lately.

Kage being tunneled on me isn't wolfy in a vacuum but is wolfy in context of a wolf going over. I'm a safe vote there, Kage isn't making risky plays.

Amy is absolutely disconnected from the thread. I think there are paths we can take but we need to take smart paths not just sleepwalk into things.

[EnderWiggin]

Renata.

You realise I would've had to have been bussed on D1 by BOTH flipped partners when Logic still had a viable wagon to even be a possible wolf.

Like you really think I was like "Just hellbus me I'll be okay."?

[hollowkatt]

fortunately D3 was only 12 pages so understanding wagon formation won't be too difficult. I'll have a chart later this evening.

[Montmorency]

Shit.

Yesterday's ouster carries no alignment information, for obvious gamestate reasons, though it hurts Csargo a single pip if Taffy is town.

If I had to clear Csargo atm the sole available factor would be the D1 secondary wagon (Ender) containing ladd, dya, Csargo, Monty, Logic; <10% chance of 3/4 maf piling onto a secondary wagon among t/t wagons on D1. From meta, Csargo specifically I feel would be self-conscious enough not to wagon in that manner. This is enough to give Csargo a pass for a couple days.

I've tried skimming through D1 and it seems I previously misunderstood dya's relationship with Amp. I can't clear her. But we'll see what comes of it when I make a more thorough examination.

One other point in her favor would be the D2 tally. There should at the very minimum be one scum on Visor - I refuse to believe there isn't - but even two is likely

EOD2, Visor has been yeeted under the sun! He flips vanilla town

Visor (6): Ender, Taffy, Renata, Csargo, HK, Boq
Ender (4): Ladd, Vulgard, Monty, Visor
HK (3): Kagemusha, dya, Cape
Vulgard (1): Amy

One thing I dislike about Taffy's D3 is her gesturing at teams like dya-Ender-Kage (even if she reassessed Ender under opposition), when ofc a POE like that would guarantee Mafia victory. Not having to NK Ender, and if Kage town, well, that's almost a necessary ML for Mafia. But Rule of Three in ladd's defenses works in her favor, for whatever that's worth.

Vote: Taffy should be part of today's agenda. If you want Kage or Amy you're going to need an affirmative case, a slam-dunk interaction or slip.


Possible teams (excluding Renata, Csargo):

Kage-Amp
Kage-Csargo
Kage-Taffy
Kage-Boq
Kage-HK
Kage-Renata
Renata-Amp
Renata-HK
Renata-Taffy
Renata-Csargo
Renata-Boq
Boq-Amp
Boq-Csargo
Boq-Taffy
Boq-HK
HK-Csargo
HK-Taffy
HK-Amp
Amp-Taffy
Amp-Csargo
Csargo-Taffy

[hollowkatt]

ender and amy sitting in a tree
w
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f
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first comes chops
then comes kills
then comes the wolf team with the lulzy thrills

also I'm sad nobody saw this and said anything I thought it was hilarious

[Renata]

What does that mean Renata?

She was voted by four people yesterday including me, while a low-posting wolf was the main wagon from the first moment of the day. First pass, none of those people are scum with her. They'd want her alive over Dyachei any day of the week. The people are Dya were mostly clear or nearly so. So who's left? Amy? Kage?

[hollowkatt]

Unvote

And Amy too
which means Dya is town as well


niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

this exists

[hollowkatt]

Dya/Ladd/Amy is not w/w/w

Just reading back and I'm more and more confident on this read.

this also exists but I'm tentatively thinking amy town anyways so meh

[Renata]

Renata.

You realise I would've had to have been bussed on D1 by BOTH flipped partners when Logic still had a viable wagon to even be a possible wolf.

Like you really think I was like "Just hellbus me I'll be okay."?

Forgive me, I did say it was tinfoil. Still weirded out by Csargo trying to make me out to be scum with you while you were still under suspicion, which doesn't make much sense as a wolf's push if you are town.

[hollowkatt]

All the D3 votes by player in order of how they voted. bold is where they ended.
someone smarter than me solve this plx

[Csargo]

Trying to go through Dyachei's iso, distracted by Csargo being wolfy. This is a response to Pizza about Pizza's push on Ender over Ender's Logic case.



"liked", "passive", "wrong", "bad", "fine"

This follows a post about Logic that used "weird" "odd" and "meh" to sum up to a "negative" opinion.

It's the same thing as he did in his case on me the other day, aside from trying to link me to wolf!Ender. Lots and lots of shade (and somewhat contradictory in Ender's case), no commitment. This is why I had Csargo in my PoE early day two.

Anyway, back to Dyachei.

What's the problem? Spell it out to me like I'm dumb, cause I am.

You called me town day two and day three you voted me. Just for reference.

[Renata]

The problem with your posts on day one? They're kinda trash. They don't really say anything. A mild negative on Logic without any real details (which *fine*, it's day one), and the response to Pizza on Ender says less than nothing too (which is more of a problem because it was a lot of words to say so little).

I had you in PoE on my first day two reads list because of these posts, pretty sure I did write it down. Then by the time I would have gotten round to doing anything about it I thought you were posting much better.

Day three vote was because of your case on me, which again relied *heavily* (aside from the Ender bit) on stuff that's weird, with absolutely nothing said about why "weird" is scummy.

It's not good. It is very very questionable and if you are town and posting like this, please don't.