Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[ladd]

but regardless fypov feel free to ignore me saing "x is never a wolf" cause if you are a villager one of those guis is prob a wolf

just gotta explain why/figure out who

if we maj early next day phase is in the weekend where if i am alive ill have a lot more time so i will do my due diligence. right now you/ender fits by far the best to me

[YOLOSWAG]

but regardless fypov feel free to ignore me saing "x is never a wolf" cause if you are a villager one of those guis is prob a wolf

just gotta explain why/figure out who

if we maj early next day phase is in the weekend where if i am alive ill have a lot more time so i will do my due diligence. right now you/ender fits by far the best to me

Yeah no

Anyone could be a wolf is my point ? it?s a bussing game and distinguishing a busser versus a villager is largely a crapshoot + we likely only have 1 shot to get it correct

I?m asking you to do due diligence instead of this ?YOLO solve it for me? approach. I?m going to try but the village wincon isn?t solely on me bub

Not sure why you would postulate being alive when you are the literal clear

[baudib1]

Please talk me thru this ?YOLO would fear me as a wolf? angle because it makes no sense

It’s been in my head since the start of the game. Maybe fear isn’t the right word but I would just expect villager you to engage with me more. I find it hard to believe you don’t think I buried Ender in our interactions about him talking about the NKs and then you took a similar line in talking about the NKs.

[ladd]

Yeah no

Anyone could be a wolf is my point ? it?s a bussing game and distinguishing a busser versus a villager is largely a crapshoot + we likely only have 1 shot to get it correct

I?m asking you to do due diligence instead of this ?YOLO solve it for me? approach. I?m going to try but the village wincon isn?t solely on me bub

Not sure why you would postulate being alive when you are the literal clear

1) there is 2 clears

2) i don't think it's solely on you. i have done my due diligence with the time i have and concluded you are the most likely option. if i am alive tomorrow i'll have time to do mroe due diligence and I will see if my conclusion changes

[Ephemeral]

Baudib is definitely not saving me. He's waiting to bus at the last second.

lol

[Ephemeral]

1) there is 2 clears

2) i don't think it's solely on you. i have done my due diligence with the time i have and concluded you are the most likely option. if i am alive tomorrow i'll have time to do mroe due diligence and I will see if my conclusion changes

think it's p fair to assume between the two of us you always die first tho

[YOLOSWAG]

It?s been in my head since the start of the game. Maybe fear isn?t the right word but I would just expect villager you to engage with me more. I find it hard to believe you don?t think I buried Ender in our interactions about him talking about the NKs and then you took a similar line in talking about the NKs.

Engage with what?

This game has largely just been a cap/HK/SK/ender POE since D1 while any other susses have largely gained no traction or proved to be of consequence

Like what is there to engage I don?t get it

[Ephemeral]

If Yolo is PR shot and got RB does he retain shot?

If not it should be locked.

i'm assuming since the shot technically doesn't go through the charge isn't consumed

[YOLOSWAG]

Wrt ender:

dya has buried ender

Visor has buried ender

Syn has buried ender

You have buried ender

I do not follow how anyone could read this game and not think, ‘last wolf just hard pushed ender, the universal poe since D1’ and you have to grasp from my point of view that pushing him in itself isn’t lock clearing

I gotta go thru later and try to find subtlety and nuance to how people approached him but it’s probably going to be akin to reading tea leaves

[Ephemeral]

And why would you not vote for Ender on D3?

I did

and i knew he wasn't the joat p early on too

but there were still several(albeit very unlikely) scenarios where it didn't mean anything for his alignment

as for why i checked you, i figured yolo was a v likely target for the joat if they had an rb left so i went with who I thought was most likely the wolf if not yolo

[Ephemeral]

not several just one but w.e

[EnderWiggin]

[dyachei]

visor get with the program. I've spent several days saying ender is a wolf with reasoning why. I didn't have the mech info, but I said it multiple times and kept adding to the read as I kept looking at it

[dyachei]

i think it's pretty unlikely to be syn unless he decided to bus early and hell bus

[dyachei]

Visor I think, maybe considering a heel turn on my ladd read tbh, I wanted Yolo and you to be town and you probably both are which means maybe it started pure.

Although at most one of the above cause I doubt both wolves would jump onto the defense.

think this is a good look for ladd/visor (even though ladd doesnt need it at all). But not really a good look for yolo

I'm gonna nurse a scumread on Syn I think.

Need to double check but my brain is saying that Syn tried to tie me to Pzelda but then tried to derail the wagon on Pzelda anyway.

good look for syn i think

Sideways susses PZelda for a fake read.



Rask calls them out for voting Dya after that for no discernable reason.



Start of sus on me



When asked who the wolves are. (No Pzelda)



Changes vote to me when winds turn against me hard.



To Raskol pointing at HK/Logic/Pzelda as a trio.



Implies only HK should be removed.



More of above



Wagon on Pzelda solidifies. This is their response.



Joins Logic wagon when it spawns in.

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And that's about all the relevant posts.

I do find their position around PZ weird, but I admit I did have the impression they tied me to PZ more which...

Actually doesn't exist in their ISO.

this also. like ender full on wolf cases syn

Kinda want to vote Syn more because it feels like Syn is using being hyper tunnelled on me as an excuse not to have to show content/thought/progression in thread.

If wolf he literally picked up I was defending his partner then hard-pushed me without ever supporting the PZ wagon.

(Also Logic disappearing while poisoned might be wolfy so the HK vote just reinforces my belief HK is town.)

more of the same

Hey Syn. You apparently "know me well". Wanna go find a single game as wolf where I bet on stupid wifom?

Keeping one highly townread member alive or angel dodging is 100% something I would do. But when you got a block of players pushing the wagons around who are very townread I'd take the chance of hitting the ONE save in the entire game instead of letting them run roughshod over my poor PZ/HK/Me team.

Also why I've been killing people like C4 who don't think I'm wolf and might protect me if people push me?

[dyachei]

I was playing with the idea that this:

might be towny. I think Ender stretched at times but I'm not sure it's a wolf versus a villager who's experiencing paranoia/skepticism of wagon formations and trying to find non-consensus wolves off it

Basically I'm asking myself why Ender does this as a wolf unless it's specifically to deflect from a partner (I am not sure how Ender tends to treat his bros as a wolf, would appreciate any meta on this)

kind of an interesting post. Light defense of ender

im not quoting it but d2 isnt good, either.

vote ender d3 but unvotes pretty quickly

I tried to focus on looking at interactions about or with ender and they arent great.

[dyachei]

guess I'll just keep talking to myself

[Syn]

guess I'll just keep talking to myself

hi dya i love u

[Syn]

hi ender i hate u

[dyachei]

hi dya i love u

who do you think ender's partner is?

[Ephemeral]

how do you feel about baudib now dya?

[dyachei]

how do you feel about baudib now dya?

need to reread him still but kind of putting it off because I know his iso is gonna be long

[dyachei]

I guess I generally feel pretty decently about baudib before rereading though

[baudib1]

Engage with what?

This game has largely just been a cap/HK/SK/ender POE since D1 while any other susses have largely gained no traction or proved to be of consequence

Like what is there to engage I don?t get it

Engage with me since you’re the one who invited me to this game. I’m pretty sure you understand I’m lock-clear here based on meta alone.

Feel free to show whose interactions with Ender look like a bus.

On D2 I was taking a line of sheeping ladd until we miss. Ladd was still reading Ender V and lol if you don’t think I’m broadcasting LADD THINKS ENDER IS V as his partner.

[baudib1]

need to reread him still but kind of putting it off because I know his iso is gonna be long

I pulled some highlights of me Ender earlier. You might as well do Syn first because I’m never flipping wolf here.

[Ephemeral]

that's fair

imo between baudib/ender and yolo/ender gth I'd go with yolo/ender as the team

shoe fits and all

the only concern I have is just how easily they fit from their interactions, like you'd think they'd at least try to look unaligned lol

I do recognize that sometimes it's just that simple ofc but it's something to think about potentially

I can see baudib grilling ender yesterday as distancing judging from the timing as well as the "tdome me" shenanigans that were going on for example

[Ephemeral]

realistically speaking i'm prolly just overthinking it

which i'm actually fine with because I've got plenty of reliable ppl to use as a sounding board here

[YOLOSWAG]

Engage with me since you?re the one who invited me to this game. I?m pretty sure you understand I?m lock-clear here based on meta alone.

Feel free to show whose interactions with Ender look like a bus.

On D2 I was taking a line of sheeping ladd until we miss. Ladd was still reading Ender V and lol if you don?t think I?m broadcasting LADD THINKS ENDER IS V as his partner.

Ya I?ma look after work

If you?re town we are prolly cooked 💀

[Syn]

who do you think ender's partner is?

baudib but I am fine with YOLO too

not you

not visor

[Syn]

Engage with me since you?re the one who invited me to this game. I?m pretty sure you understand I?m lock-clear here based on meta alone.

year of our lord 2023 and we're still doing "trust me, I would never do this as a wolf" reads