Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[Achro]

As I survey the people around me I take note of a familiar name. Visor, a man from a place down under as I recall. We did good work together once upon a time masquerading as witches together, and another he had me dancing to a tune all his own until another detective awoke me from my dazed state. I have never seen Visor as a Detective, but he appears at ease among his peers here. It puts me at ease to see him this way, if only a little.

Vulgard makes his presence known soon after, asking soft questions and showing Lapras that being a majestic dual typed generation one Pokemon will not save them from his gaze. Except, what does this man hope to accomplish by saying all those words which amount to nothing but air at the end of it all? To take a take a stand against another in this deadly game of ours should take commitment, and when we set our sights on another with intent it should be with purpose. When I look into Vulgard’s post I do not see purpose, but only words.

Vote: Vulgard

As I look at how Lapras responds to Vulgard, and how Vulgard responds to Lapras, I cannot help but feel a sense of feeling each other out to some degree. There is a dance at play here. I don’t rightly know whose side these strangers dane for, but what I gather from this conversation is that there is nothing coordinated here between them.

I catch Illario chastising Robyn and I can’t help but to bitterly agree that this is not someone who is obvious in any way. He is a man I have crossed paths with twice, and both times my paranoia led to an innocent man being sent to the gallows for crimes only real to the fervent mind of a desperate detective. I once attended a baseball game in Chicago, and in that game they have a saying: three strikes and you are out. If Illario is one of the people who have snuck into this meeting of the minds I can only hope I have the courage and tenacity to face my past. For now, much like Visor, he appears at ease.

Robyn admits to the room that they have been lying through their teeth the entire time. This is as surprising to me as the Sun rising in the East. Robyn has always possessed a formidable and ambitious mind, and I have been led to believe recently this mind has blossomed in the art of subterfuge. Yet, I have seen how they dazzle when left to their own devices even for a day or two when in the role of detective. It would be a shame to see them go before the mystery picks up in intrigue.

The room seems eager to discuss Raskolnikov to various degrees. Unlike the above names, I have not the faintest clue of who this person is or how they may deceive or aid me. Raskolnikov, what would you say is your greatest asset to your faction as both alignments? What is it that you do best?

My eyes are starting to close of their own accord, and soon I will need to leave this world of the waking and allow the stream of time to pass me by. The last thing I will say is in my experience those that post wistfully about wishing to be against the majority instead of their chosen lot tend to be honest more often than seems probable. We shall see if this Wisdom of the crowd proves to be trustworthy.

For now, I must retire after a long day of journeying through the land of Azeroth with my adventuring friends. When Snorlax and I awake, we shall delve deeper into the mysteries that await us in this game.

[Raskolnikov]

@Achro: make myself obvioius as villa and chopping wolves with regularity. I always fall for a good pocket though (tsktsktsk).

Being tonally good as a wolf. (I can powerwolf or just buss hard, no rule there, but I am not that good at woofing while I think I am a decent townie).

I will try to digest the rest of that wordy post. Will look again at this Lapras/Vulg interaction

[Raskolnikov]

@Achro: make myself obvioius as villa and chopping wolves with regularity. I always fall for a good pocket though (tsktsktsk).

Being tonally good as a wolf. (I can powerwolf or just buss hard, no rule there, but I am not that good at woofing while I think I am a decent townie).

I will try to digest the rest of that wordy post. Will look again at this Lapras/Vulg interaction

Btw this is why I am allowing the last post from Wisdom, because I can understand their perspective (I would have considered the champ noms if I could have a wolf training game ). Even if that post was just wifom and awkward, it's prolly not AI

[Syn]

@Achro: make myself obvioius as villa and chopping wolves with regularity. I always fall for a good pocket though (tsktsktsk).

Being tonally good as a wolf. (I can powerwolf or just buss hard, no rule there, but I am not that good at woofing while I think I am a decent townie).

I will try to digest the rest of that wordy post. Will look again at this Lapras/Vulg interaction

[Syn]

vote: vulgard

[dyachei]

rask seems like he's villa from overnight posts. also sucks that all the chatting happened after I went to bed

[Raskolnikov]

rask seems like he's villa from overnight posts. also sucks that all the chatting happened after I went to bed

you will hate us when we cfd you after you went to bed
@Syn: your takes are good. illario/Vulgard have equity but would expect them to be a tidit less obvious (page 3 posts are eeck)

[EnderWiggin]

I'm really glad I checked my emails and wondered why the hell I got a PM on Org.

Forgot I even signed up for this game lmao.

[EnderWiggin]

I'm about to speedrun a catchup and find every wolf in one go, let's go.

At like 1:30am when I've not had enough sleep in the first place. Lesgo.

[Syn]

@Syn: your takes are good. illario/Vulgard have equity but would expect them to be a tidit less obvious (page 3 posts are eeck)

can u pls not

[Raskolnikov]

ngl Achro, u mentionning witches and Visor gave me a Tim feel. But then u said u didn't know me. hmm

Prolly better to not bother rn but knowing ur main would help with things (I'd respect it if u don't want to out though)

[Achro]

Ah I do apologize, how very rude of me not to introduce myself. I am earnestly new to this site, invited by Lucy to play on this game. Abroad I am known more fully as Achromatic. Any of the people I discussed, save perhaps the best water/ice type to be invented, can tell you more about me if you wish to see varied perspectives on me as a detective.

I am willing to extend you a small bit of trust, as I suspect most combinations of three people that make up the informed minority would be able to pinpoint just who I am and your reaction felt earnest.

[robyn]

noob rask

also rask achro v/v

[Raskolnikov]

Ah I do apologize, how very rude of me not to introduce myself. I am earnestly new to this site, invited by Lucy to play on this game. Abroad I am known more fully as Achromatic. Any of the people I discussed, save perhaps the best water/ice type to be invented, can tell you more about me if you wish to see varied perspectives on me as a detective.

I am willing to extend you a small bit of trust, as I suspect most combinations of three people that make up the informed minority would be able to pinpoint just who I am and your reaction felt earnest.

Following ur leadership: @robyn is this Achro pocketing me after I posted I always fall for a good pocket?

[robyn]

that’s just how he types

i don’t think ur being pocketed

i tr his slick slick slick fucking read on you, both you and him for it

larpas/vulgard/achro/illario/rask

illario being the weakest read
@Wisdom can you post a readslist when ur free

[Wisdom]

that?s just how he types

i don?t think ur being pocketed

i tr his slick slick slick fucking read on you, both you and him for it

larpas/vulgard/achro/illario/rask

illario being the weakest read
@Wisdom can you post a readslist when ur free

@robyn sorry I didn't see this on phone
Hopefully I've posted enough reads for you to be satisfied by now!

[Vulgard]

achro i'm not sure why you're singling me out for having no major pushes when nobody has had any major pushes in this game so far and half the playerlist hasn't meaningfully posted

[Achro]

achro i'm not sure why you're singling me out for having no major pushes when nobody has had any major pushes in this game so far and half the playerlist hasn't meaningfully posted

It isn't the lack of push but the amount of words to have a lack of a push. Felt like you were forcing yourself to jump start.

(I am phone posting and will not be doing my creative writing exercise while doing so.)

[Vulgard]

It isn't the lack of push but the amount of words to have a lack of a push. Felt like you were forcing yourself to jump start.

(I am phone posting and will not be doing my creative writing exercise while doing so.)

oh that's fairly standard

i'm throwing things out there as i build a better picture of the game

i think rask, robyn, maybe visor, maybe you are town
lapras and illario are my main susses, both explained earlier

i'm not super attached to these reads though because like i said there are still people who haven't posted or done anything ai fmpov and i don't feel like the game has really kicked off

[Vulgard]

i think i'm still voting rask lol

Vote: Unvote

the illario read really boils down to him finding robyn's think about faking their reads wolfy because i really don't think it's wolfy in context and it's the sort of thing wolves would latch onto fmpov

main thing holding me back here is that i could be wrong on robyn in which case illario is just town for this but i currently have robyn as town so yeah

[nutella]

I don't think you are aware about how your tone feels here compared to when you are pocketing (u can call me dumb for noticing your - or zacks - pockets and falling for them... whatever), so I might disagree with you about it being AI.

it's not like it's something I'll die on tbh. But I noticed the difference and wanted to out a stance.

And I think it is producing AI stuff. (ur opinion on Vulgard/Lapras rn?)

And I was the only slot pushing his wolfy ass at all that game.

insert polarisedmeme here. Now,

let me figure out if u outing a quick tr is scummy in that context. generally people who are more paranoid probably wouldnt openly tr me that quick and early.

(note the dichotomy here between what u do and what you are willing to suss people for)

Lost confidence when other town read him in addition to one post, let's see if I find it

I think Visor sounding a bit deflated 10 posts into the game is town AI.

That's mostly based on how much he went Commander Visor as wolf in our last game though, but I think that he has an easier time to fake that than the Less Wim - Town Edition Visor he seems to be right now.

i think i'm still voting rask lol

Vote: Unvote

the illario read really boils down to him finding robyn's think about faking their reads wolfy because i really don't think it's wolfy in context and it's the sort of thing wolves would latch onto fmpov

main thing holding me back here is that i could be wrong on robyn in which case illario is just town for this but i currently have robyn as town so yeah

why do you think they can't both be town?

i see the rationale on illario calling the fake reads thing wolfy being wolfy but i don't think it's impossible they're both town

[nutella]

oh shit that multiquoted a bunch of things still, getting used to site sry

[Vulgard]

i'm also ok with the nutella votes

@Raskolnikov was it you who commented earlier that ladd was outed? how serious was that, and if it was serious, can you explain?

[Raskolnikov]

i'm also ok with the nutella votes

@Raskolnikov was it you who commented earlier that ladd was outed? how serious was that, and if it was serious, can you explain?

not serious at all. (he hasn't posted and would not activity read him either lol)

PS: you were voting illario, not me. Blame Benneh/Sunbae for slanking (but they are prolly working or waking up rn so there is that)

[Achro]

oh that's fairly standard

i'm throwing things out there as i build a better picture of the game

i think rask, robyn, maybe visor, maybe you are town
lapras and illario are my main susses, both explained earlier

i'm not super attached to these reads though because like i said there are still people who haven't posted or done anything ai fmpov and i don't feel like the game has really kicked off

If nothing else it will be nice to get other people's more detailed thoughts on your opening as it felt you were being handwaved a bit.

I know from experience I tend to find illario's early day 1 reads baffling so I am going to reserve judgment for awhile on delving deeply there.

Why do you think I could be town?

Also hi robyn I see you. I will not elaborate on this until later.

[robyn]

If nothing else it will be nice to get other people's more detailed thoughts on your opening as it felt you were being handwaved a bit.

I know from experience I tend to find illario's early day 1 reads baffling so I am going to reserve judgment for awhile on delving deeply there.

Why do you think I could be town?

Also hi robyn I see you. I will not elaborate on this until later.

i can’t sleep, i am here, what’s up

[Achro]

i can’t sleep, i am here, what’s up

I said I wouldn't elaborate until later SHEESH

But since you are here, why is vul town iyo

[Vulgard]

If nothing else it will be nice to get other people's more detailed thoughts on your opening as it felt you were being handwaved a bit.

I know from experience I tend to find illario's early day 1 reads baffling so I am going to reserve judgment for awhile on delving deeply there.

Why do you think I could be town?

Also hi robyn I see you. I will not elaborate on this until later.

it's frankly very surface level especially considering your competence at the wolf alignment but the rp thing seemed >rand town
the fact you're dropping it at all, regardless of reason, though, basically brings it back down to null
idk if it's wolfy but i'm no longer reading it as towny

there's also the fact i thought you questioning my posting was >rand town in the current game context because i find that wolves typically prefer to just kill me if i'm not looking like a potential ML for a change and if you were a wolf you'd either just do that or you'd try to ML me later into the game if you're alive instead

which is a rather far-fetched set of conclusions that extends far later into the game than right now so it wasn't super strong but it was on my mind

realistically there's also an element of me wanting you to be town because it would be nice to work with you instead of uh... clashing, let's just put it that way, after last time

[Syn]

As I survey the people around me I take note of a familiar name. Visor, a man from a place down under as I recall. We did good work together once upon a time masquerading as witches together, and another he had me dancing to a tune all his own until another detective awoke me from my dazed state. I have never seen Visor as a Detective, but he appears at ease among his peers here. It puts me at ease to see him this way, if only a little.

Vulgard makes his presence known soon after, asking soft questions and showing Lapras that being a majestic dual typed generation one Pokemon will not save them from his gaze. Except, what does this man hope to accomplish by saying all those words which amount to nothing but air at the end of it all?

lol

lmao even

[Cape90]

As I survey the people around me I take note of a familiar name. Visor, a man from a place down under as I recall. We did good work together once upon a time masquerading as witches together, and another he had me dancing to a tune all his own until another detective awoke me from my dazed state. I have never seen Visor as a Detective, but he appears at ease among his peers here. It puts me at ease to see him this way, if only a little.

Vulgard makes his presence known soon after, asking soft questions and showing Lapras that being a majestic dual typed generation one Pokemon will not save them from his gaze. Except, what does this man hope to accomplish by saying all those words which amount to nothing but air at the end of it all? To take a take a stand against another in this deadly game of ours should take commitment, and when we set our sights on another with intent it should be with purpose. When I look into Vulgard?s post I do not see purpose, but only words.

Vote: Vulgard

As I look at how Lapras responds to Vulgard, and how Vulgard responds to Lapras, I cannot help but feel a sense of feeling each other out to some degree. There is a dance at play here. I don?t rightly know whose side these strangers dane for, but what I gather from this conversation is that there is nothing coordinated here between them.

I catch Illario chastising Robyn and I can?t help but to bitterly agree that this is not someone who is obvious in any way. He is a man I have crossed paths with twice, and both times my paranoia led to an innocent man being sent to the gallows for crimes only real to the fervent mind of a desperate detective. I once attended a baseball game in Chicago, and in that game they have a saying: three strikes and you are out. If Illario is one of the people who have snuck into this meeting of the minds I can only hope I have the courage and tenacity to face my past. For now, much like Visor, he appears at ease.

Robyn admits to the room that they have been lying through their teeth the entire time. This is as surprising to me as the Sun rising in the East. Robyn has always possessed a formidable and ambitious mind, and I have been led to believe recently this mind has blossomed in the art of subterfuge. Yet, I have seen how they dazzle when left to their own devices even for a day or two when in the role of detective. It would be a shame to see them go before the mystery picks up in intrigue.

The room seems eager to discuss Raskolnikov to various degrees. Unlike the above names, I have not the faintest clue of who this person is or how they may deceive or aid me. Raskolnikov, what would you say is your greatest asset to your faction as both alignments? What is it that you do best?

My eyes are starting to close of their own accord, and soon I will need to leave this world of the waking and allow the stream of time to pass me by. The last thing I will say is in my experience those that post wistfully about wishing to be against the majority instead of their chosen lot tend to be honest more often than seems probable. We shall see if this Wisdom of the crowd proves to be trustworthy.

For now, I must retire after a long day of journeying through the land of Azeroth with my adventuring friends. When Snorlax and I awake, we shall delve deeper into the mysteries that await us in this game.

this is town because it is actually saying stuff
-Visor is light town, even if achro never seen him as a "detective" (I am guessing townleader when Achro says this).
-Vulgard asked Lapras soft and pointless questions. Vulgard's posts do not seem to have an intent except for filling out posts... with words.
-Lapras/Vulgard not w/w trying to find each other.
-Illario is good for being critical of Robyn so like Visor, Achro stamps a light townread on Illario
-Achro is worried about Robyn's lying. Yet Achro wants to give Robyn space since they believe Robyn can be very useful if they are town.
-Rask is a blind spot, then Achro asks rask questions. Rask answers in https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843416&viewfull=1#post2053843416]158

Then no more reads after this.

Anyways my thoughts now that I have broken up all that.

1. I dunno about Vulgard because it did look like he was posting with intent when talking to Lapras, but I also was thinking that Vulgard's thoughts on Lapras were a bit fake feeling to me, specifically when Vulgard voted them. I kindaaaa think Vulgard was awkward with Illario. I at least liked https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843363&viewfull=1#post2053843363]106 from Vulgard. That's approximately how I feel about Vulgard UP TO THIS POINT SPECIFICALLY.
2. Robyn read is a bit strange, but I will let it cook as the kids say
3. Not too sure on Visor, but agree that Illario is town. Also Wisdom/Rask are probably both town, Wisdom is partially a meta read admittedly. Rask is town off their own merits IMO, at the very least they feel natural to me in demeanor. They aren't exactly at the same checkboxes that I have associated with their recent town games, but those interactions are skewed and limited.