Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[dyachei]

so ig ender and dya is unlikely a w/w pairing

why's that?

[Vulgard]

in my mountainous game dz wasn’t live chatting much at all and the thread wasn’t hard to follow

he’s here and live chatting and taking stances and i don’t associate that with his wolf game

also some micro town moment things and i believe achro had an epic tr on him too

you're making his wolfgame sound really bad and i don't think it is? @robyn

I'll say this anyway because I like elaborating on all the thoughts I have but illario feels like they often tend to settle back and let other people do reads as wolf, but they explicitly do this kind of thing where they vote/push/do things and then back off it and unvote as if to settle on the back foot and wait for other people to do things so they see where the flow is going?

But I'm not bothering to check this at midnight to see if I'm misremembering.

But also their treatment of me feels off for their town play when we rand v/v.

bolded is more or less the main reason i suspect him, he did something similar when we wolfed together in an em subforum game a few months back on MU

we went for a hard distancing strategy between each other as a team but he was largely just chilling

[robyn]

my read accuracy is comparatively good

[illario]

why's that?

well if you're a wolf then i think its more likely you saw enders vote on me and saw that as a good time to swap onto me as opposed to the both of you as w/w w collectively pushing me here as wolves when its probably just easier to hop onto the wisdom or boq dichotomy thats formed since atleast one of them has to be a villa in a you/ender w/w world. I think as that pairing yall would only jump on me here if you already had some traction started from other villas already. and unless im misremembering the vote count i dont think i have any other votes on me atm.

[Vulgard]

well if you're a wolf then i think its more likely you saw enders vote on me and saw that as a good time to swap onto me as opposed to the both of you as w/w w collectively pushing me here as wolves when its probably just easier to hop onto the wisdom or boq dichotomy thats formed since atleast one of them has to be a villa in a you/ender w/w world. I think as that pairing yall would only jump on me here if you already had some traction started from other villas already. and unless im misremembering the vote count i dont think i have any other votes on me atm.

i actually like this logic though

i don't necessarily agree with it but i think it'd be difficult to come up with on the fly as a wolf

then again illario is a great wolf

[nutella]

Syn and Vul are so town that they towned the town in towning mctownerson.

This is all.

yes

i just realised all of this can be easily summarised with:

"if you're town im struggling to see how anything you have done so far has advanced towns win con in any way, and that is something i expect you can and should be able to do as town"

can't decide how i feel about this read on robyn from illario. i both agree with it and find it uninspiring lol

well if you're a wolf then i think its more likely you saw enders vote on me and saw that as a good time to swap onto me as opposed to the both of you as w/w w collectively pushing me here as wolves when its probably just easier to hop onto the wisdom or boq dichotomy thats formed since atleast one of them has to be a villa in a you/ender w/w world. I think as that pairing yall would only jump on me here if you already had some traction started from other villas already. and unless im misremembering the vote count i dont think i have any other votes on me atm.

this is a p solid thought though

his posting about robyn just now is probably his best posting because i was thinking about robynslot myself

that said the reasoning itself doesn't sit right with me because i have recent experience with a town!robyn who largely trolled, which would indeed be not advancing town's wincon but would still be town

also the reasoning of 'not advancing town's wincon' is something wolves like to use, context is obviously crucial and in the right context it can be villagery to use this argument but i think in this context it's wolfy

now i shouldn't expect illario to know every single game that robyn has ever played but that's yet another angle/push of his that seems wolfy to me, even ignoring that game robyn played that i've just mentioned i think applying the 'not advancing town's wincon' type of logic to this player is inherently flawed because of how robyn plays (some whimsy and a fair bit of sitting back after giving reads)

i'm going to look very silly if he's right but regardless i don't like this approach from him

vulgard keeps articulating everything i'm thinking

[getting locked out of multiquoting again but imagine i quoted the next post where vulgard literally mindmelds AGAIN with me on the above illario post making sense/maybe hard to fake logic]


why does this site suck so much ass lmao

[dyachei]

well if you're a wolf then i think its more likely you saw enders vote on me and saw that as a good time to swap onto me as opposed to the both of you as w/w w collectively pushing me here as wolves when its probably just easier to hop onto the wisdom or boq dichotomy thats formed since atleast one of them has to be a villa in a you/ender w/w world. I think as that pairing yall would only jump on me here if you already had some traction started from other villas already. and unless im misremembering the vote count i dont think i have any other votes on me atm.

you realize im voting you for the same reason as i was voting boq earlier, right?

[illario]

you realize im voting you for the same reason as i was voting boq earlier, right?

yeah but the timing just doesnt feel right to me and im not even sure why thats scummy to you? like why do you think as a wolf i would just bring your attention to that as casually as i did? (i suppose it could be wifom but eh)

idk just feels like you're missing some steps in the process, like what about the quote that wisdom/cape might be closer than others to solving the game is so scummy that it warrants a vote despite whoever says it. i think my reasoning makes sense, it wouldnt make sense for boq to say it because both of them were pushing boq. but it would make sense for me to say it since it was more aligned to my reads than others had been at the time. so why is that quote so scummy despite whoever says it iyo?

[nutella]

yeah but the timing just doesnt feel right to me and im not even sure why thats scummy to you? like why do you think as a wolf i would just bring your attention to that as casually as i did? (i suppose it could be wifom but eh)

idk just feels like you're missing some steps in the process, like what about the quote that wisdom/cape might be closer than others to solving the game is so scummy that it warrants a vote despite whoever says it. i think my reasoning makes sense, it wouldnt make sense for boq to say it because both of them were pushing boq. but it would make sense for me to say it since it was more aligned to my reads than others had been at the time. so why is that quote so scummy despite whoever says it iyo?

wait nvm this makes no sense at all lmao

[Vulgard]

his posting about robyn just now is probably his best posting because i was thinking about robynslot myself

that said the reasoning itself doesn't sit right with me because i have recent experience with a town!robyn who largely trolled, which would indeed be not advancing town's wincon but would still be town

also the reasoning of 'not advancing town's wincon' is something wolves like to use, context is obviously crucial and in the right context it can be villagery to use this argument but i think in this context it's wolfy

now i shouldn't expect illario to know every single game that robyn has ever played but that's yet another angle/push of his that seems wolfy to me, even ignoring that game robyn played that i've just mentioned i think applying the 'not advancing town's wincon' type of logic to this player is inherently flawed because of how robyn plays (some whimsy and a fair bit of sitting back after giving reads)

i'm going to look very silly if he's right but regardless i don't like this approach from him

[illario]

his posting about robyn just now is probably his best posting because i was thinking about robynslot myself

that said the reasoning itself doesn't sit right with me because i have recent experience with a town!robyn who largely trolled, which would indeed be not advancing town's wincon but would still be town

also the reasoning of 'not advancing town's wincon' is something wolves like to use, context is obviously crucial and in the right context it can be villagery to use this argument but i think in this context it's wolfy

now i shouldn't expect illario to know every single game that robyn has ever played but that's yet another angle/push of his that seems wolfy to me, even ignoring that game robyn played that i've just mentioned i think applying the 'not advancing town's wincon' type of logic to this player is inherently flawed because of how robyn plays (some whimsy and a fair bit of sitting back after giving reads)

i'm going to look very silly if he's right but regardless i don't like this approach from him

i think you would have an easier time solving me if you stopped trying to force me and robyn as a dichotomy in your head

[Vulgard]

i think you would have an easier time solving me if you stopped trying to force me and robyn as a dichotomy in your head

i just consistently find the way you're approaching that slot wolfy

[Vulgard]

Vote: illario

[dyachei]

like it makes no sense to me that you're approaching this as a dichotomy with ender's vote on you because you were the one that pointed out the post that pinged me was by you, not boq. So you should see that relating it to ender's vote on you means absolutely nothing as either alignment

[illario]

like it makes no sense to me that you're approaching this as a dichotomy with ender's vote on you because you were the one that pointed out the post that pinged me was by you, not boq. So you should see that relating it to ender's vote on you means absolutely nothing as either alignment

where did i say it was dichotomy though? i just said ur not likely partners

[Raskolnikov]

nutella and Syn at 69 posts since 12 hours or so...

[Syn]

nutella and Syn at 69 posts since 12 hours or so...

nice