13er summer game thread

[nebjiamn]

what do we think of katze running it down on visor and ignoring the cw, which happened to be SK?

pretty goddamn wolfy

in retrospect the continued push on visor is like extremely bad given the circumstances and i'm pretty sure it just locks sk into being a wolf

[insomnia]

what do you think about it?

level 0 he doesn't wanna say something on sk to not look bad in case he flips ldo

idk he could and probably will argue he was voting visor in self-preservation, but ignoring SK there is the wolfy part when a big wagon was growing on him and dya / benneh were pushing it

[Cuthillius]

see

i agree with benneh

and i also think benneh is probably a wolf too

[nebjiamn]

Katze did a lot of very good solving yesterday while I read through the thread as it related to going back and forth on Visor.

I also think it is possible that SK/Visor were V/V.

What are your strongest reasons for suspecting SK this game? It's kind of hard to ISO effectively here (for me anyway) so having your thoughts summarized would be nice.

have you considered that visor could/would have gotten a bit more leeway if he was up against a non-wolf?

like, obviously some amount of villagers still voted him, regardless of SK's alignment, but i feel like if SK didn't have teammates visor might not have tied/gone over there since he had at least something going for him (PR claim) and SK didn't have much

idk i feel like it'd tilt the other way

[Achro]

Can everyone
@Winston Hughes @nebjiamn @SilverKeith @insomnia @katze

give a summation of their (in game) thoughts of me? If they think I am a wolf, can you please list the 2 most paired partners with me? If you town read me, can you please try to find some posts that made you think at the time I could have a wolf agenda and explain why? It helps me when people directly talk about me when I am feeling lost on reads sometimes, so I would appreciate it whenever you all can.

[Cuthillius]

i didn't read anything overnight and have to do due diligence on everyone involved here but aorn at least that's where i'm at

[insomnia]

Katze did a lot of very good solving yesterday while I read through the thread as it related to going back and forth on Visor.

I also think it is possible that SK/Visor were V/V.

What are your strongest reasons for suspecting SK this game? It's kind of hard to ISO effectively here (for me anyway) so having your thoughts summarized would be nice.

lol, my impression of katze's game here was that there was 0 solving / pushing and mostly asking questions that didn't go anywhere but a strong PoE on d2, which feels odd


i don't have a golden reason for sk wolf and i wanna see if he has the view i'd expect someone in his position to have rn

it's not gonna be a grand case cuz most of it is reliant on PoE really, but i'll give him time to see how he solves here before going ballistics

[Achro]

have you considered that visor could/would have gotten a bit more leeway if he was up against a non-wolf?

like, obviously some amount of villagers still voted him, regardless of SK's alignment, but i feel like if SK didn't have teammates visor might not have tied/gone over there since he had at least something going for him (PR claim) and SK didn't have much

idk i feel like it'd tilt the other way

You think wolf Katze tries to save wolf SK by placing a vote that wouldn't even tie it? Who is the other wolf iyo?

[nebjiamn]

see

i agree with benneh

and i also think benneh is probably a wolf too

i'm not dude

and i'm not even sure how you can think that cause i don't have viable teammates fmpov unless you think its exactly me/katze/...insomnia? and then katze and i decided to flip our reads around on eachother for no good reason yesterday

[Cuthillius]

have you considered that visor could/would have gotten a bit more leeway if he was up against a non-wolf?

like, obviously some amount of villagers still voted him, regardless of SK's alignment, but i feel like if SK didn't have teammates visor might not have tied/gone over there since he had at least something going for him (PR claim) and SK didn't have much

idk i feel like it'd tilt the other way

this is a bizarre way of framing it?? i don't think sk's posts have been fantastic either but i don't think his posts have been so terrible that he'd be being run up no contest if there weren't wolves propping him up for ?some reason?

[insomnia]

Can everyone
@Winston Hughes @nebjiamn @SilverKeith @insomnia @katze

give a summation of their (in game) thoughts of me? If they think I am a wolf, can you please list the 2 most paired partners with me? If you town read me, can you please try to find some posts that made you think at the time I could have a wolf agenda and explain why? It helps me when people directly talk about me when I am feeling lost on reads sometimes, so I would appreciate it whenever you all can.

i dunno, obviously you didn't do very good, but nobody has

ngl it was hard reading you because you were posting movie scripts in a game where everyone went one liners. think im at the point where you don't really ATE that hard as a wolf in that position and i think it was genuine, i could feel in the moment that your emotions were matching the thoughts you were struggling with

i kinda liked your visor case even tho it was wrong

[Cuthillius]

i'm not dude

and i'm not even sure how you can think that cause i don't have viable teammates fmpov unless you think its exactly me/katze/...insomnia? and then katze and i decided to flip our reads around on eachother for no good reason yesterday

i think it's plausible you could be w/w with sk

you only started pushing him sod2, after his posts eod1 were godawful, and iirc there was a decently strong consensus that he was quite wolfy by that point

would i ever yeet you before sk? absolutely not, but i don't see why it's super improbable

[Achro]

i dunno, obviously you didn't do very good, but nobody has

ngl it was hard reading you because you were posting movie scripts in a game where everyone went one liners. think im at the point where you don't really ATE that hard as a wolf in that position and i think it was genuine, i could feel in the moment that your emotions were matching the thoughts you were struggling with

i kinda liked your visor case even tho it was wrong

True. I now know it was two town who from hour one tunneled me for two days. I am usually good at picking up on it (I was with Taffy) but Visor's reasons broke my brain a bit (which I should have tr'd him for in hindsight, breaking my brain is a town tell)

Yeah, my prediction came true about my solving and 50 posts lol. I knew it was going to be tough for me.

[katze]

oh what the fuck

[katze]

time is stupid i did not realize it was 6

why is dya dead

[nebjiamn]

You think wolf Katze tries to save wolf SK by placing a vote that wouldn't even tie it? Who is the other wolf iyo?

i don't think katze would be afraid to vote visor there given how the narrative yesterday went no

i'm not sure there were 2 or 3 wolves on visor but there was definitely one regardless of SKs alignment (2 for sure if he IS a wolf, for clarity, but not necessarily 3)

i do think cuth and insomnia and are probably my two top villas right now despite that though. i probably need to rethink thru my reads with dya and taffy dying but on a gut level that feels right

i also want to re-evaluate SK a bit before going fully down this path

[insomnia]

katze, what was your sk read yesterday?

[katze]

what do we think of katze running it down on visor and ignoring the cw, which happened to be SK?

i didnt ignore SK i literally talked to SK during eod and stated i thought his posts were villagery...?

but ok go off i guess

[Cuthillius]

i didnt ignore SK i literally talked to SK during eod and stated i thought his posts were villagery...?

but ok go off i guess

could you please post a current readslist

[Achro]

SK I have been very torn on, half the time I think 'oh this is just a wolf', the other time I go 'oh it doesnt match the wolf agenda'

but... my wolf agenda was wrong, at least partially, so the second should probably be thrown in the trash and I go back to 'oh this is just a wolf' lol

I will have to consider team comps I suppose. Benneh felt very wolfy to me as I read but that was in the wrong context. I guess I was right that dya was the same alignment as visor (lol)

so katze/insomnia/winston/benneh/SK in my world view contains 2 town and 3 wolves.

and my instincts are telling me not katze but not sure hm.

will dig through some things tomorrow, I'll just vibe for now.

[insomnia]

i don't think katze would be afraid to vote visor there given how the narrative yesterday went no

i'm not sure there were 2 or 3 wolves on visor but there was definitely one regardless of SKs alignment (2 for sure if he IS a wolf, for clarity, but not necessarily 3)

i do think cuth and insomnia and are probably my two top villas right now despite that though. i probably need to rethink thru my reads with dya and taffy dying but on a gut level that feels right

i also want to re-evaluate SK a bit before going fully down this path

yeah im waiting to see how he opens up and the way he sees things before i lock it in

[katze]

could you please post a current readslist

no lol

[katze]

like i dont want to be annoying but why the fuck is achro alive lol

[nebjiamn]

i think it's plausible you could be w/w with sk

you only started pushing him sod2, after his posts eod1 were godawful, and iirc there was a decently strong consensus that he was quite wolfy by that point

would i ever yeet you before sk? absolutely not, but i don't see why it's super improbable

a little unfair cuth

i pushed him all day yesterday. it was not at all consensus when i started pushing him. go look at SOD, i am the one who brings him up and then dya agreed with me which is partially why i felt good about dya

i only pushed him SOD2 but he had like 4 posts for most of day 1 that were ranging from good to OK and then i was gone for most of the last hour of EOD day 1. when else was I going to push him? its day 3 amigo

its not wild to pair me with him i guess cause ive been known to bus but idk. villa envy nerd

[Achro]

like i dont want to be annoying but why the fuck is achro alive lol

Damn fine I'll just go iso now lol

[Cuthillius]

like i dont want to be annoying but why the fuck is achro alive lol

because he's a villager who was repping a solve of visor/dya/benneh yesterday?

[katze]

Damn fine I'll just go iso now lol

i mean do your thing i just was 100% confident you'd be attacked

maybe cuth

why the fk is dya dead lmao

[Achro]

because he's a villager who was repping a solve of visor/dya/benneh yesterday?

i-in fairness one of those I was told was red checked ;.;

[katze]

alrighty well ill make the game easier or harder

im incredibly close to snapvoting achro and im a PR

glgl

[Achro]

alrighty well ill make the game easier or harder

im incredibly close to snapvoting achro and im a PR

glgl

well uh

gg then lol