Cereal killer mafia

[ladd]

I expected there to be more posts to get rid of the tie. Do you guys really want to keep the tie?

did you vote barto just to tie wagons and see what happened or was there something more?

can you talk to me about your vote on barto at eod?

[Visor]

Vote: rask

[ladd]

monty is not the kill i expected but it makes sense i guess

Vote: rask

ya i was thinking about this too contrary to what i just posted lol

i re skimmed their last v game on here (achro/boq/vugard wolf team game) and man they were so much more obviously a villager



i am ~completely at peace with having Jan as a villager so if anyone needs help getting there i can go more in depth on this read (later tho, now I wanna focus on reading)

[Visor]

ya i was thinking about this too contrary to what i just posted lol

i re skimmed their last v game on here (achro/boq/vugard wolf team game) and man they were so much more obviously a villager



i am ~completely at peace with having Jan as a villager so if anyone needs help getting there i can go more in depth on this read (later tho, now I wanna focus on reading)

yeah this is what it is coming down to for me

every time i read one of rasks posts, the words are fine, competent, but you're right that theres just no 'showing' of being a villager

(re the other post stuck in your multiquote - i was trying to keep up pretenses of not knowing i had been shot)

still think shooting me is weird if i am pushing ender/wisdom v/v (that said, if taffy flipped joat i would've turboed ender lol, killing me is just weird and sounds the kind of fancy play ender would think up)

like yes i have last minute vote going for me, but its not like my reads were good lol

wya on cape and sleep

[Visor]

Prolly not a pairing but two slots Ive been uncomfy on reread.

i mean rask villager just literally never says this

i don't think i've seen anything remotely close to it before lol

[Raskolnikov]

i mean rask villager just literally never says this

i don't think i've seen anything remotely close to it before lol

see Ladd.

I mean how is this a real thought from Visor. shrug

[Visor]

Trick question

I don't have thoughts

[Cape90]

see Ladd.

I mean how is this a real thought from Visor. shrug

Are u believe the mech or not?

[Visor]

that just has the feeling of wolf making posts

[ladd]

wya on cape and sleep

I like cape for villa more than sleep, i think


i have never been a good cape reader but i have been skimming a couple of wolf games on MU (i havent tried this hard in a ww game in a while lmao) and he is even more awkward as a wolf

Here I can mostly follow his thoughts and his jumping around and besides his terrible post about ender yday I have never really been pinged by him



sleep is a borderline impossible read for me this game cause they just don't feel very into it. So by default they are kinda the jolly when I have other people I feel good about being villa. Not a big fan of their pushes d1 (mostly the syn push) but thats all I got

otoh some posts make me think if they would really play it like this as a wolf so i dunno

[Visor]

I like cape for villa more than sleep, i think


i have never been a good cape reader but i have been skimming a couple of wolf games on MU (i havent tried this hard in a ww game in a while lmao) and he is even more awkward as a wolf

Here I can mostly follow his thoughts and his jumping around and besides his terrible post about ender yday I have never really been pinged by him



sleep is a borderline impossible read for me this game cause they just don't feel very into it. So by default they are kinda the jolly when I have other people I feel good about being villa. Not a big fan of their pushes d1 (mostly the syn push) but thats all I got

otoh some posts make me think if they would really play it like this as a wolf so i dunno

yeah that ender post is so out of touch i almost want to call it villagery because nobody would actively choose to post that esp in a high leverage situation lol

and i think i agree on cape being more villa than sleep

if 1/2 of rask/sleep are wolves, where are you looking to after that?

[ladd]

yeah that ender post is so out of touch i almost want to call it villagery because nobody would actively choose to post that esp in a high leverage situation lol

and i think i agree on cape being more villa than sleep

if 1/2 of rask/sleep are wolves, where are you looking to after that?

cape/suibian

everyone else is villa imo



if rask is w, i think cape looks really good with 1) pushing them after 1 wolf already down and 2) having the vote there in 4-3 wagons wisdom-rask. Need to check if it's lack clear levelz tho


if sleep is w, could be either:

- sleep/suibian: theoretically possible but feels like sleep would try harder if this was the team. Just based on a gut feeling

- sleep/cape: possible afaict, if the team was barto+2 people who replaced out thats really rough

[Gemma]

Votal 3.0

Rask (2) - Syn (#721), Visor (#758)
Sleep (1) - Cape (#736)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Visor]

i def voted rask

Vote: Raskol

[ladd]

@Cape whats your read on rask now?

why do you have me as a villager?

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[ladd]

I like cape for villa more than sleep, i think


i have never been a good cape reader but i have been skimming a couple of wolf games on MU (i havent tried this hard in a ww game in a while lmao) and he is even more awkward as a wolf

Here I can mostly follow his thoughts and his jumping around and besides his terrible post about ender yday I have never really been pinged by him



sleep is a borderline impossible read for me this game cause they just don't feel very into it. So by default they are kinda the jolly when I have other people I feel good about being villa. Not a big fan of their pushes d1 (mostly the syn push) but thats all I got

otoh some posts make me think if they would really play it like this as a wolf so i dunno

sleep posting seemed slightly wolfy mostly cause the way they went on about being suspected everytime for silly reasons...doesnt really line up with how they played so far

throwing around that someone bussed but not really following it up with ~anything in that sense and instead pushing on cape doesnt inspire me with confidence either

cape pop in was w/e

I admit I am a sucker for rask posting, everytime they post I question if they are really a wolf lol but i think jan/suibian are both more be villa than rask still + you/syn knowing rask well and still thinking they are a wolf



I wouldnt really write off cape/sleep being w/w due to them voting each other today since if thats the team they have no way out anyway and no interactions before today seem non w/w afair

vote:sleep

gonna make a placeholder since it worked well last time

i dont think rask/cape are w/w so either sleep is a wolf or something went terribly wrong

personally i dont think rask is a wolf anymore (and if they are, they can only be with sleep or suibian) but if syn/visor still think so they know rask better than me so go with god. I doubt I'll be voting them

vote:sleep

Sorry but the more i read the more you feel the odd one out and i get the feeling you regret subbing in the game (which is prob true regardless of your alignment i guess)


Gotta go for a bit but i have basically the week off work so i may even stay awake for eod who knows

Bbl

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if you think i had decided to buss my whole team this probaby arent gonna change the needle for you but I'll quote them anyway


i think they show i was genuinely evaluating sleep and not really going "let's buss and credit"

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[ladd]

i think i am done, if you have questions i am here another hourish then i gotta go fo like 3 hours minimum


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[Raskolnikov]

ya i was thinking about this too contrary to what i just posted lol

i re skimmed their last v game on here (achro/boq/vugard wolf team game) and man they were so much more obviously a villager



i am ~completely at peace with having Jan as a villager so if anyone needs help getting there i can go more in depth on this read (later tho, now I wanna focus on reading)

fwiw y. I will take your details about Jan

[ladd]

fwiw y. I will take your details about Jan

ya I will get it to it tomorrow (irl)

also there is no maj fwiw

Just to add up on this Ladd, how do you feel about Wisdom voting Sleep alone when about to die? Because like it's just another proof your expectations are just that, expectations, and not a real reason to actually wolf read someone. And you know it.

this lacks some critical thinking on my alignment imo

wisdom was 1 of your top 3 favourite lunches in the legacy and was your counterwagon, which is why I am confused why you didnt vote them back even if you preferred cape


i'll give you the wisdom point tho - idk why they didnt self pres either since you were in their PoE afaict lol




as an aside, i think I have showed this game that I am clearly willing to change reads on a dime (see: how many times i have changed m mind on you lol) so if you are worried i am not gonna change my mind no worries. We have 48 hours and I intend to use them all to read and think

[Suibian]

what was your theory with how that worked with visor claiming his vest got popped?

My theory was the ender both gave the bp vest to him and shot him for townpoints and plausible deniability. I was also suspicious of taffy's doc claim after claiming to doc rask because he was the other pr while scolding people for not recognizing monty was a pr but also not claiming to save him. But taffy's tone changed so much from day one to day two that I thought that seemed weird for a fake claim.

Silly question of the day -



Did you know who sleep was here?

Yep. Sleep commented on my first post to say that maybe he wouldn't regret replacing in after all, which confused me at first because his first post was to say something like benneh's at home and I don't think I've ever played with benneh. But after reading a couple of his posts, I thought he might be Gira, so I read through his forum posts and found where he talked about Artemis Fowl and what happened that game, which I was also in, and that confirmed it.

did you vote barto just to tie wagons and see what happened or was there something more?

can you talk to me about your vote on barto at eod?

I considered voting Monty, especially after ender's case, but visor wanted to give both rask and monty a day. I almost voted wisdom, but Jan popped in and pointed out something he liked from wisdom, which helped reinforce my earlier thought that wisdom sounded fine. So I went with my earlier thought that I was just going to go ahead and sheep Jan onto Barto.

I did notice that doing that made three wagons tie and was interested to see what would happen as a result of that, and I was a bit confused when a couple minutes to deadline nobody had moved to get rid of the tie. I didn't know if you guys actually liked ties and wanted to see what would happen with the rand.

[Raskolnikov]

Jan/Ladd looks possible (food for thought if none of them died by SOD4) to me D1: like a lot of cheap interactions and questions that look like "hey, I will help my partner here". Also the reasonning for voting El Barto just look the same (LHF, placeholder oops didn't come back).

[Raskolnikov]

I want to believe in Visor and give Monty a day.

I don't want to follow on ender though even though I should probably accept that he has more experience and my early tone read might be dumb and wrong, but I still like it right now.

I will follow onto wisdom. Their posts seem fine but I don't have an actual read there.

Wisdom pushing against syn and myself before anyone else didn't feel like a wolf move to me.

Votal 1.5

Monty (3) - Rask (#38), Barto (#67), Wisdom (#185)
Wisdom (3) - Visor (#147), Sleep (#229), Ender (#256)
Barto (2) - Jan (#73), ladd (#175)
Rask (2) - Taffy (#11), Monty (#274)
Jan (1) - Suibian (#9)
Taffy (1) - Syn (#232)

vote barto

Out of Jan/Ladd/Subian, I think Subian had the most rationale and villagery vote D1, prolly locking her as a villager now.

(I am not considering Visor tbh. there is still the possibility Syn is a wolf vig that shot wolf!Visor who NKed Monty, but I am honnestly hoping Gemma didn't include a wolf vig allowed to shot another wolf yeah no, lol me for this thought)