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[nebjiamn]

Also @nebjiamn why did you not vote Gemma EoD after casing her during the day?

this question was weird given taffy already agreed to my point on pzelda

Main takeaway from catching up is that Dyachei has grown on me.

Also agree with Benneh's take on Pzelda.

.

i've accepted they're either

a) a very obvious wolf and will die today but the game really wont be any easier tomorrow because everyone will argue (probably correctly) no one can get credit for voting them

b) a villager and we're just kinda unlucky they got caught up in somethin

not like super sold they do flip wolf but i would rather get them out day 1 if this is going to be the norm for their posting level. i'm leaving some hope out that if they ARE a villager they can come in and town tell and help sort things out for eod but with like 3.5 hours left i'm not optimistic

this response that she agreed with clearly shows i'd prefer to get zelda out if that was going to be the norm so i'm not sure why she'd question me about voting zelda when i'm not sure taffy ever gave a take on gemma anyway (though i imagine her responses was prodded on by me green checking gemma, would have to double check)

[Cuthillius]

vote: taffy

[nebjiamn]

just skimmed cape's iso a bit .. not at all in depth but he does have some good posts about the gemma/dya and baud interactions
@Cape can you talk about why you were reading baud v day 1 and how that changed going into d2?

[nebjiamn]

woops @Cape90

[Cuthillius]

no cap

[Cuthillius]

shit i've been snacking on semi sweet chocolate chips and i forgot how much caffeine they have and now i'm a bit wired at 4 pm

[Visor]

i don't think its me either btw

[nebjiamn]

i don't think its me either btw

ok now what

[Visor]

ok now what

ask again later

[Jan]

ask again later

ok now what?

[Visor]

ok now what?

reply hazy, try again

[Cuthillius]

ok now what??

[Cape90]

Vote: Taffy

i'll re-eval at f4/3 if needed

I am lowkey on board with this... sort of

also my vote wasn't counted :( im gonna complain here :( doesn't matter anyways thank god

Anyways, I started seeing that baud was playing weird and I was also thinking Gemma got townier, especially as day 2 went on.

The way baud was responding to pressure was bad, their EOD 1 was honestly kinda bad, looking back in hindsight AT their day 1, the NK on dyachei incriminated them, so like a combination of those things, to TL;DR

I was kinda feeling it too when dyachei asked everyone to elaborate on their baud read day 1, felt something was off there when i did that.

[Cape90]

If benneh is mafia, they went pretty hard bus mode going into day 2. Some paranoia stems from me thinking benneh/baud had weirdish interactions where benneh looked like he was egging baud on ie. #172. Or just bantering. Also had a bad EOD, with unvoting and stuff... it was just weird and I would push this if baud wasn't mafia.

[Cape90]

baud questioning Cuth about their vote on them is maybe questionable #524. I was tinfoiling that baud kept questioning me about my Cuth read because both were w/w, and Cuth was like... kinda handling them with kid gloves. #465 was said before the vote on baud later on after all as an example of the kid gloves thing.

Eh I looked back further and I can't really say that I am correct there. I think Cuth and baud are pretty anti-paired.

[Cape90]

so I did all that on benneh/cuth as a baseline

If Visor is mafia, both Visor/baud immediately went for each others throats
I can respect that play if both are mafia LOL, but eh

Jan's kinda angy ramblings this game pocketed me at night so i think they v and chill n stuff + they "hammered"

So like, that leaves me with like Taffy, but im nowhere near confident there

[Jan]

Jan's kinda angy ramblings this game pocketed me at night so i think they v and chill n stuff + they "hammered"

It was either that or not voting at all. I would have preferred the other way around but somehow your vote slipped through the cracks of time and space.

[Jan]

See, as wolf I'd expect Baudib to make a hard push on some town to get that second town yeet before dying tomorrow leaving his partner to only need one more.
As town he knows if he pushes the wrong person today we probably lose over it bc he definitely goes tomorrow.
His lack of confidence today mirrors his indecisiveness in F3s where he has hammer.

If taffy is a wolf defending a buddy like this that is fairly telling for a powerwolf mindset.
Because honestly I would have expected most people to cut baudib loose by that point.

Just a thing for people that have more possible history to think about.

[Raskolnikov]

Votecount


Taffy(2): Benneh, Cuth

[Totally not Taffy]

Kills are getting weirder.

Taffy? Did you do that?

No, I expected you to be the NK bc that's what I'd have done. If I'd planned to kill Gemma I would have ignored her or waved her off with a "her case stinks but she's town anyway" rather than putting so much time in trying to explain to her why her case on me was bad.

@Jan why did you have me as your top town even with Baudib as scum yesterday but now that you have confirmation that the latter of that was correct do you start doubting me?

[Totally not Taffy]

its no one else unless it is and if it is i dont feel its necessary to sort that out today

No it is.

ok now what

ok now what?

ok now what??

You all get off your laurels and help me solve in a town!Taffy world especially if you insist on sleepwalking into killing me because that's the position you'll be in if my death doesn't end the game and you'll be getting a 30-hour headstart with two extra townies (me and tonight's NK) to help.

[Totally not Taffy]

i'm a pr

No you're not.

night 1 gemma towen

#fordya im gona stay on baud and hope he flips wolf and we can clear visor

if baud is v then it probably means one of cape or gemma is a wolf

thats the only analysis im bothering with today cyall tomorrow in post

PRs don't suggest their check could be a wolf.

@Jan don't blindly clear him he's fpsing and he could be doing that as either alignment

[Totally not Taffy]

this was an awesome gemma post -- click thru imo and read their points

No it wasn't. I picked apart her push on me in posts 480 481 and 485. This is lazy from you as either alignment, you're pushing me here either without having bothered to iso me or without addressing why my arguments against Gemma's case are bullshit.

And frankly it's disheartening that nobody else has pointed this out. Read me.

[Totally not Taffy]

baud questioning Cuth about their vote on them is maybe questionable #524. I was tinfoiling that baud kept questioning me about my Cuth read because both were w/w, and Cuth was like... kinda handling them with kid gloves. #465 was said before the vote on baud later on after all as an example of the kid gloves thing.

Eh I looked back further and I can't really say that I am correct there. I think Cuth and baud are pretty anti-paired.

This is by far the most interesting post that has been made today and I would like you to explain why you changed your mind here because I found Baudib's treatment of Cuth very partnering to the point that I'm considering he might have been doing it on purpose to get Cuth misyeeted after his death.

I'll go make a post showing what I mean I'd like you to tell me how I'm wrong @Cape90

[Jan]

No, I expected you to be the NK bc that's what I'd have done. If I'd planned to kill Gemma I would have ignored her or waved her off with a "her case stinks but she's town anyway" rather than putting so much time in trying to explain to her why her case on me was bad.

@Jan why did you have me as your top town even with Baudib as scum yesterday but now that you have confirmation that the latter of that was correct do you start doubting me?

I was confused by the kill, saw the last votecount and made a joke based on Gemma voting you at EoD.

[Jan]

While we are talking about football..


Messi winnning Best male player in 2023 is one of the bigger travesties.

He is was basically retired for the 2nd half of the year while Haarland won everything possible.

People are just so used to Messi winning it anyway that they must have voted for him out of habit.


Anyways. Just had to say it since this is a thread about football and all ..

[Visor]

sup

think cuths reaction at eod was bad

Vote: cuthalion

[Jan]

sup

think cuths reaction at eod was bad

Vote: cuthalion

I am not falling for that again, naughty boy!

Tempting me to vote with wrong votals and faked responsibilies.

[nebjiamn]

No you're not.




PRs don't suggest their check could be a wolf.

@Jan don't blindly clear him he's fpsing and he could be doing that as either alignment

damn its almost like i'm smart and allude to situations that would make wolves not consider me as a nk

like replying to this post !

[nebjiamn]

No it wasn't. I picked apart her push on me in posts 480 481 and 485. This is lazy from you as either alignment, you're pushing me here either without having bothered to iso me or without addressing why my arguments against Gemma's case are bullshit.

And frankly it's disheartening that nobody else has pointed this out. Read me.

i've read your iso.

gemma's post is clean af. if you're v i can see why you'd disagree but, uh, still a clean post!