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[ladd]

i am working from office tomorrow but i should def manage to get some pop ins in, probaby even for eod

gh/logic fairly or unfairly seem like a package deal to me right now. wouldnt be shocked if it's w/w but still dont care to go gh today



for the rest idt much has changed, besides liking benneh's post on me, he probaby doesnt bother to make that post as a wolf



arctic initial reasoning for suspecting dya is perfectly fair fwiw but also think dya is probably fine for now


ender/gemma are interesting, feels like that has a wolf, i lowkey didnt really like gemma's posting, it felt calculated.

wisdom seems off beat/in their own world/shoot from the hip like their villa game

no thoughts at all on vanda but not someone i wanna lunch d1 at all

[nebjiamn]

i am working from office tomorrow but i should def manage to get some pop ins in, probaby even for eod

gh/logic fairly or unfairly seem like a package deal to me right now. wouldnt be shocked if it's w/w but still dont care to go gh today



for the rest idt much has changed, besides liking benneh's post on me, he probaby doesnt bother to make that post as a wolf



arctic initial reasoning for suspecting dya is perfectly fair fwiw but also think dya is probably fine for now


ender/gemma are interesting, feels like that has a wolf, i lowkey didnt really like gemma's posting, it felt calculated.

wisdom seems off beat/in their own world/shoot from the hip like their villa game

no thoughts at all on vanda but not someone i wanna lunch d1 at all

I actually have the thought GH is more likely to make the post / shield on logic was w/v, particularly because of the timing and way he did it. Why do you discount this as a possibility? Why can’t he be a wolf defending V logic?

[ladd]

I actually have the thought GH is more likely to make the post / shield on logic was w/v, particularly because of the timing and way he did it. Why do you discount this as a possibility? Why can’t he be a wolf defending V logic?

i have wolfed with gh and i dont think gh is the type of wolf who decides to shield a villager who is very likely to be misunched (and its not like he is going weakly about it)


not impossible but eh

[Raskolnikov]

i have wolfed with gh and i dont think gh is the type of wolf who decides to shield a villager who is very likely to be misunched (and its not like he is going weakly about it)


not impossible but eh

why do it if they are ww? (a world you are considering that I see highly unlikely)

[GeneralHankerchief]

if I was mafia I'd let him wallow and just not bring it up really

[Syn]

hello i continue to dislike ender, can we go back to killing him. it would be really fun and i think you would like it

[Syn]

hello i continue to dislike ender, can we go back to killing him. it would be really fun and i think you would like it

but no really

most of his ISO revolves around waffling on arctic and an unexplained vote on jan as his bookends (with a promise that there's a secret reason), before hard turning into a vote on me and saying he sussed me all along

[Hally]

vote: EnderWiggin

hello i continue to dislike ender, can we go back to killing him. it would be really fun and i think you would like it

but no really

most of his ISO revolves around waffling on arctic and an unexplained vote on jan as his bookends (with a promise that there's a secret reason), before hard turning into a vote on me and saying he sussed me all along

how are we feeling about this re: ender?

[Wisdom]

Tbh I think Logic talking about perspective slips without evaluating or pursuing until getting prodded about it is a good look for him. I get the vibe that he's just today's easy push!

[Wisdom]

how are we feeling about this re: ender?

Considering Syn didn't have his heart in the game I doubt that he wanted to go deep by distancing, and at this point it wasn't obvious he was going to die either so wouldn't say he was in antispew (outside of well, not mentioning half the playerlist). So my conclusion is that Syn spewed him v, and I also tr him individually.

[ladd]

but no really

most of his ISO revolves around waffling on arctic and an unexplained vote on jan as his bookends (with a promise that there's a secret reason), before hard turning into a vote on me and saying he sussed me all along

tho this kinda feels more "wolf turning a rvs vote on a villager in a real vote"

[Gemma]

I actually have the thought GH is more likely to make the post / shield on logic was w/v, particularly because of the timing and way he did it. Why do you discount this as a possibility? Why can’t he be a wolf defending V logic?

This is a rough way of treating a partner. At this point in thread I believe benneh was pushing logic w worlds, so this isn't even arguing that Logic is v it's just undermining a village read on a bud at a point where GH was in a space where he was in need of allies but also wasn't really on the chopping block in a serious way, ie not an unrecoverable position. I can see benneh making this post about someone closer to Syn levels, much less so about GH. Aslo think this adds up with benneh thinking at the time that GH/Logic were unaligned.

idt much needs to be rocked today. by my estimation, the yeet is ~always between visor and logic and i am a big fan of those wagons (moreso visor atm).

Points for benneh here too imo, not just this post but the general shape of his d2 treatment of visor/logic, unless Logic has a strong role potentially but even then, I think Logic always dies this game and if you're with both you have to believe in visor to be able to dodge the yeet if not forever then to a greater extent than Logic just because its visor, tho kinda muddied by afk stuff which impossible to guess really without being in wolfchat. If both are wolves benneh would have to have been hellbussing his entire team from the getgo which is a thing some people do but not what I think is happening here really.

@GeneralHankerchief if you want something to talk about feel free to use this as a launching point to talk about any other reasons why benneh might not be with the wolves, obviously without the your being a wolf sideo f things, or dont up to you i just figure no one else is trying to talk to you today

[Gemma]

or thats what i tell myself anyway

anything to try to sound more interesting

[ladd]

Gut feeling is that gh/logic is not the team

We'll see tho

[ladd]

Fwiw i am cool with maj when gh says he is ready

I am prob too old and lazy to do any real work until we mislunch

[Gemma]

yeah that is a mood

[Hally]

Gut feeling is that gh/logic is not the team

We'll see tho

i was thinking the opposite lol

they both seem completely deflated to me

[ladd]

i was thinking the opposite lol

they both seem completely deflated to me

Its possible

Tbh i dont even know what else makes sense

[Gemma]

i was thinking the opposite lol

they both seem completely deflated to me

yeah i feel bad for them like

its been a rough game in gh land