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[Hally]

i’ve had this kind of read backfire before so maybe this post will be stupid but i’m not sure what wisdom is doing here if she’s a wolf? (assuming gemma w)

w!wisdom kind of has to mislunch ender to win with how she’s positioned but instead she’s hard town reading him and saying he isn’t w/w with gemma, which nobody else said except me so it’s not something she needs to commit to

she’s setting up to push into vanta (ok sure), arctic (everyone town reads him except her) or 1 in me/benneh/dya (not easy pushes at all)

it doesn’t really feel like she’s thinking about a path to winning?

[nebjiamn]

out of POE tbh. I don't think Dya's posting fits particularly ( she keeps coming back to stuff they have posted in a towny way for instance)

reminder dya uses they/them

thanks

[nebjiamn]

i’ve had this kind of read backfire before so maybe this post will be stupid but i’m not sure what wisdom is doing here if she’s a wolf? (assuming gemma w)

w!wisdom kind of has to mislunch ender to win with how she’s positioned but instead she’s hard town reading him and saying he isn’t w/w with gemma, which nobody else said except me so it’s not something she needs to commit to

she’s setting up to push into vanta (ok sure), arctic (everyone town reads him except her) or 1 in me/benneh/dya (not easy pushes at all)

it doesn’t really feel like she’s thinking about a path to winning?

yea, i got the feeling just now her reads are anti-consensus but not in a wolfy way. i think her posts look really good if gemma does indeed flip wolf for what youve mentioned here

but i'm not really sold on the ender read? if i take wisdom as v the poe starts to get very thin even with a gemma wolf flip. it kinda has to be vanta or ender after that fmpov or we have deep wolves

[Raskolnikov]

gonna be real that i think one of (if not both!) of benneh/hally could be wolves here

just on a game state level

i guess if you take one thing away from today is that you should probably look into people locking down the read on me as if its a 'must kill'

i know ppl will just justify not listening and still wolfreading me but perhaps you will remember this post at some point

part of it is the way they've done it (i think look to how hally talks to logic about me with the ridicule about considering me not a wolf)

its not about making the correct read its about locking the thread into a state of making a particular read if you get what im saying?

i don't really understand your argument - when i die they can STILL push logic/gh but the thread sentiment is as such towards in me in part because ladd has been pushing me so i don't see why it is a surprise as to why i am being locked in as this is the prime time to actually kill me

you basically get to kill me with clean hands with a ladd push lol

i would also maybe expect more indecisivity (is that word?) towards me from hally/benneh

All I've found Benneh. Bolded the part that give me pause

[Raskolnikov]

reminder dya uses they/them

thanks

lolol

[nebjiamn]

the thanks was not a cheeky 'thanks for correcting yourself' that was just a general thanks for your thoughts on dya/hally

but thanks either way lol

[Hally]

yea, i got the feeling just now her reads are anti-consensus but not in a wolfy way. i think her posts look really good if gemma does indeed flip wolf for what youve mentioned here

but i'm not really sold on the ender read? if i take wisdom as v the poe starts to get very thin even with a gemma wolf flip. it kinda has to be vanta or ender after that fmpov or we have deep wolves

it’s dya (maybe (or i’m stupid))

[dyachei]

Arctic I wouldn't expect a wolf bro to list you twice because they are overly concerned about the appearance with partners and would be more aware of it

Idk I could be wrong but that's how I see it

[nebjiamn]

it’s dya (maybe (or i’m stupid))

is this your actual read on the game state or just in the scenario there's a deepwolf?

[Raskolnikov]

the thanks was not a cheeky 'thanks for correcting yourself' that was just a general thanks for your thoughts on dya/hally

but thanks either way lol

nah I was laughing because I used both she and they in the same sentence, I am a lost cause tbh.

Re Visor's push on you/Hally. I am just seeing it as seeds for l8r tinfoil.

[dyachei]

nah I was laughing because I used both she and they in the same sentence, I am a lost cause tbh.

Re Visor's push on you/Hally. I am just seeing it as seeds for l8r tinfoil.

I appreciate the effort fwiw

[Hally]

is this your actual read on the game state or just in the scenario there's a deepwolf?

both i guess?

i hard town read rask/arctic/you

i don’t really think it’s wisdom or ender (even though i acknowledge it’s possible based on their posting, it doesn’t really feel like it?)

which leaves either vanta or dya, both of whom i have some concerns about that i actually have to sit down and dig into but i don’t think it’s gonna happen til the weekend

[dyachei]

I admit I wasn't as villagery as people would like the first couple of days

But I feel like I hit my stride today. Idk why but maybe because it doesn't feel like we're sleepwalking into an Elim as much?

I feel like v!hally should be able to recognize that at this point and it concerns me. She's just been naysaying me instead

[Wisdom]

SBPCBWWE

[Hally]

I admit I wasn't as villagery as people would like the first couple of days

But I feel like I hit my stride today. Idk why but maybe because it doesn't feel like we're sleepwalking into an Elim as much?

I feel like v!hally should be able to recognize that at this point and it concerns me. She's just been naysaying me instead

i’m not sure what you’ve done so far today that i should be town reading?

also i don’t think the characterization that i’m just naysaying you is fair? i explained why i don’t agree with your wisdom push but i don’t think i hard shut you down or anything, i asked if you could flesh it out more when you have time to help me see it

do you really not think it’s fair for me to think you could be a wolf if it’s not vanta? it would be a lot more helpful to me if you could engage with anything i’ve posted re: wisdom/ender/anything else when you have time (like i’ve been engaging with you) instead of reacting like this whenever i say i think you might be a wolf

[dyachei]

i’m not sure what you’ve done so far today that i should be town reading?

also i don’t think the characterization that i’m just naysaying you is fair? i explained why i don’t agree with your wisdom push but i don’t think i hard shut you down or anything, i asked if you could flesh it out more when you have time to help me see it

do you really not think it’s fair for me to think you could be a wolf if it’s not vanta? it would be a lot more helpful to me if you could engage with anything i’ve posted re: wisdom/ender/anything else when you have time (like i’ve been engaging with you) instead of reacting like this whenever i say i think you might be a wolf

I will interact more with your wisdom questions when I get home as I've already said. And I have explained that I don't agree with you on several points but I don't think continuing to say I don't agree is helpful

I'd love you to do some thinking about what happens to your reads if I flip villager because you just keep defaulting to it's dya. And it's kind of hard to want to interact with you more on that basis.

I also kind of hate that you keep putting it all on my reaction when you commonly respond to me by loling, casually drop my name as a wolf every chance you get, and tell me you just straight disagree with me

It's kind of hard to want to interact with you this game and I feel like I'm going crazy

[Hally]

I will interact more with your wisdom questions when I get home as I've already said. And I have explained that I don't agree with you on several points but I don't think continuing to say I don't agree is helpful

I'd love you to do some thinking about what happens to your reads if I flip villager because you just keep defaulting to it's dya. And it's kind of hard to want to interact with you more on that basis.

I also kind of hate that you keep putting it all on my reaction when you commonly respond to me by loling, casually drop my name as a wolf every chance you get, and tell me you just straight disagree with me

It's kind of hard to want to interact with you this game and I feel like I'm going crazy

???

i say lol to everyone all the time, it’s just how i type not meant as a literal “i’m laughing at you”

and idk what you’re talking about re: me wolf reading you every chance i get and always defaulting to you?? that’s straight up not true. i only ever started considering you could be a wolf last day and made a couple of posts about you expressing fairly mild suspicion, and then like one post about it today. you are acting like i’ve been repping a lock wolf read on you for days when i haven’t expressed anything close to that

and again, i didn’t straight up disagree with you about wisdom, i explained why i see it differently and asked if you could help me see it your way. i acknowledge you are busy now and will do it later when you have time, that’s totally fine. i’m not just shutting you down at all

[Vanta Black]

SBPCBWWE

OK you got me, please translate

[Vanta Black]

btw either I've been misgendering Vanta for 2 years or you are guys.

You've got it right (although really I think it's not mispronouning if one doesn't care)

[Raskolnikov]

OK you got me, please translate

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Play at MU basically (disclaimer, I am maybe joking, maybe)

[Raskolnikov]

Where is your head at Vanta?

[Vanta Black]

Does search thread function not work here or is it just me fatfingering it?

[Vanta Black]

Where is your head at Vanta?

Gemma/Wisdom, possibly Ender. I think I ruled Ender out for some post or another but now I don't find which post that was.

[Vanta Black]

Where is your head at Vanta?

Gemma/Wisdom still...tell me where I've gone wrong though because folks are saying that can't be

[Vanta Black]

Oh fanastic, I went back to try to find that post about Ender and accidentally double-posted.

[Raskolnikov]

Does search thread function not work here or is it just me fatfingering it?

No idea tbh;Maybe look at the sticked thread in the gameroom, there may be a tuto from GH or ATPG about the "how to" here.

Noted your other post. D1 I'd would have said lock villa, rn I will wait for a bit more (I am a sucker for stuff like "some post or another but now I don't find which post that was" but that kind of microread does not work for a game pass )

[Gemma]

sup rask

my main potatoe

[Raskolnikov]

i’ve had this kind of read backfire before so maybe this post will be stupid but i’m not sure what wisdom is doing here if she’s a wolf? (assuming gemma w)

w!wisdom kind of has to mislunch ender to win with how she’s positioned but instead she’s hard town reading him and saying he isn’t w/w with gemma, which nobody else said except me so it’s not something she needs to commit to

she’s setting up to push into vanta (ok sure), arctic (everyone town reads him except her) or 1 in me/benneh/dya (not easy pushes at all)

it doesn’t really feel like she’s thinking about a path to winning?

What do you think of this for instance Vanta (since u asked where u got wrong ) ?

[Gemma]

the worst part about this game is that we never got to interact live

[Gemma]

ranking this in the bottom half is just incorrect