Tarot Mafia

[Sunbae]

Maple has a one shot paranoid gun owner (which shoots everyone who visits her when activated). This was from when they gave themselves a card n1 before they were inverted

that makes me want to kill maple even more

might be brainrotting rn but what if Maple's PGO was real/gave immunity, and that's what killed Arctic

also gonna say, firmly believe that Rask did shoot Sheep

Bop and Stett were both probably mafia KP (assuming maf have a even night vig or something like that) if that's the case

Maple has a one shot paranoid gun owner (which shoots everyone who visits her when activated). This was from when they gave themselves a card n1 before they were inverted

tracked him

I know this is an insane use of a track but I thought it would be a good proxy if Maple was alive today. Am a JOAT, used a doc on Stett N1 and roleblock on Maple N2

Here are the three things I mean

[Dolby]

Sunbae

Why would I consciously claim this when I demonstrated immediately before the claim that I was well aware that. I would probably fake claim a roleblock on Wisdom if so. Maple visiting Arctic was a specific attempt to see if certain people would exhibit TMI and unfortunately it led to me generating bad reads (Benneh) from it

I also began dripping that Jan wasn't roleblocked back here

Yeah Ender is just town imo. Benneh used multiple people's sus on Ender as a way to try to direct greater sus towards him, and I've just feeling the villa energy from him since

Also irregardless of mech Maple just looks good from how Benneh treated her. I also do believe that Jan got the card and the card used used on Dya

kinda thinking that I was wrong to dismiss what ladd was saying about knights yesterday.

but w/e today is wisdom day

[Dolby]

I think I came up with the maple killed arctic with pgo theory but don't believe it anymore

think that wisdom is a wolf for posting unrelated to their claim

specifically right here before my claim I demonstrate a level of awareness of the position. If I was a wolf I'd probably fake claim a roleblock on Wisdom. Also would probably help Wisdom if Wisdom is a wolf KP

[Sunbae]

Maple has a one shot paranoid gun owner (which shoots everyone who visits her when activated). This was from when they gave themselves a card n1 before they were inverted

Hmmm, ok let me think some Dolby. I wanna see what others have to say too about it. I admit I sometimes jump the gun on things I think I caught! Gonna go get food and chew on this info some.

[Sunbae]

The multiquote from hell keeps being stuck lol

[Wisdom]

isn't this exactly what you did to vanta

I town read vanta for a few hours d1 based on vibes, I'd say that's not the same thing. But I'm back to town leaning him, so, yay?

[Sunbae]

I think I have 19 posts left after this.

I'm going to save them for an hour or two from now just in case.

I wanna give people the time to come in, see the updated info, and have enough posts to work through their responses.

Also wanna chew on the dolby thing cause I can kind of see "im gonna put forth an idea i know is false because im alive and see if anyone starts pushing it" and he does believe the card early today. hmmm

let me unvote for now

[Wisdom]

I'd be really surprised if Dolby managed to tunnel me this hard as a wolf. It's like everything I post gets frowned upon. Tunnels are town indicative and the way he just goes on is just really hard to fake. We're not yeeting Dolby today.

[Dolby]

Anyway to explain my day play a bit

I felt that Maple was just a wolf and kinda outted, I was super skeeved out by ladd's treatment of Maple and Wisdom (which made me trust Wisdom at EOD more). Maple into Arctic theory was generated to see how people would react to it. I knew that Maple wasn't wolf KP at that point, and I assumed that Wisdom wasn't wolf KP was the two shot firefighter claim. I specifically generated that theory to see how people would react around it. Since both were presumably about equivalent value wolves, I imagined that those against the theory were more likely to have TMI on Arctic straight up having been shot.

In the v/w rather than w/w worlds that would tell a separate story but I don't htink I need to write that one would mean.

[Dolby]

I'd be really surprised if Dolby managed to tunnel me this hard as a wolf. It's like everything I post gets frowned upon. Tunnels are town indicative and the way he just goes on is just really hard to fake. We're not yeeting Dolby today.

Wisdom how do you feel about Monty and Knights right now? Tbh I think you're circumstantially a likely wolf but in retro I am not liking Knights continued drop off and think that Monty just hasn't been towny (including the eod1 vote)

[Dolby]

Also Wisdom what does me claiming that Jan wasn't roleblocked mean for Maple in your eyes?

[dyachei]

oh god you want me to think about this sunbae?

if dolby is telling the truth the game just became very easy and knights or wisdom is still the best vote for today. I think knights over wisdom

or he's a wolf. But I also dont think he'd lie this elaborately

[Wisdom]

Pretend I didn't just defend Dolby wtf is that claim

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Me, Jan, Dya, Bop+other neighbor I forgot, Arctic?, Ender, Maple, Dolby

That's 9 pr claims.

[Wisdom]

Wisdom how do you feel about Monty and Knights right now? Tbh I think you're circumstantially a likely wolf but in retro I am not liking Knights continued drop off and think that Monty just hasn't been towny (including the eod1 vote)

I think Monte has some wolf equity and have no clue about Knights.

[Wisdom]

Also Wisdom what does me claiming that Jan wasn't roleblocked mean for Maple in your eyes?

Eh right now I'm just trying to make sense of everything.

Did you say you roleblocked Manti the night after he claimed self resolving?

[Dolby]

Eh right now I'm just trying to make sense of everything.

Did you say you roleblocked Manti the night after he claimed self resolving?

yes but it was public knowledge at this point in time that Maple's claimed action was a day action rather than a night action, meaning that my night roleblock wouldn't have disrupted the distribution of the card.

This is also how Jan got the card despite his jail roleblocking Maple at night

[Wisdom]

Because roleblocking v!Maple that specific night seems extremely -ev and something a wolf would do.

And why track Jan when you have the chance to catch a wolf?

It makes no sense. It sounds like you're just a wolf roleblocker who claimed due to being in danger. That implies Maple being town though so wth is this game.

[Wisdom]

yes but it was public knowledge at this point in time that Maple's claimed action was a day action rather than a night action, meaning that my night roleblock wouldn't have disrupted the distribution of the card.

This is also how Jan got the card despite his jail roleblocking Maple at night

Hm. Right.

[Wisdom]

I think Dolby can roleblocked regardless of alignment. I think Maple can give something regardless of alignment.

And if there is an arsonist I have a feeling they're not dying today.

[Dolby]

I mean, I think I've written out exactly why that happened before this

I tracked Jan bc I can't track the factional and was worried that the same thing as d2 and d3 would play out again, and that if he did do something that that would be a indicator towards Maple town (him not moving at all would be Maple got, bagged and tagged)

And I was probably third most in danger bc tbh I think before my claim I would have received three votes max. That said I do feel that Maple is just an objectively suboptimal yeet today

but you've gotta figure out where to go from here

[Wisdom]

But I hate it here

[Wisdom]

Can you walk me through why yeeting Maple is bad?

[Dolby]

Can you walk me through why yeeting Maple is bad?

I think that if Maple is a wolf than Jan is always roleblocked last night if they still have a roleblocker

However because I saw Jan use the card on Dya last night, I know that Jan wasn't roleblocked

Which indicates the mafia either don't have a living roleblocker or Maple is town

[Dolby]

This is also a big part of why I have been arguing for a lot of today that it is realistic to think that Jan could have decided to not execute Maple last night (bc, well, I know he chose not to).

Jan also claimed that if Maple was a wolf his jail would have removed Maple from wolf chat for the night

[Wisdom]

I think that if Maple is a wolf than Jan is always roleblocked last night if they still have a roleblocker

However because I saw Jan use the card on Dya last night, I know that Jan wasn't roleblocked

Which indicates the mafia either don't have a living roleblocker or Maple is town

What card did he give to dya?
I'm so confused right now

[Dolby]

Vote: Knights

want to give more space

[dyachei]

What card did he give to dya?
I'm so confused right now

he used a protective card on me last night per manti

[Dolby]

What card did he give to dya?
I'm so confused right now

Maple claimed to give Jan a one shot doc card, and I tracked Jan to Dya (and Maple claimed that Jan used the card on Dya).

[Wisdom]

he used a protective card on me last night per manti

Oh but that's something else, right? He could have both doc'd you and killed manti? But Dolby is saying Jan only chose to target you. So he actively chose not to kill Maple.

And how does that make Maple town, again?

Holy heck my poor brain.

[Wisdom]

Okay so we know Maple gave Jan a card which he gave to Dya and it doesn't seem to have harmed Dya in any way.