Tarot Mafia

[EnderWiggin]

Either Maple doesn't have a partner or the partner decided to bus after seeing my yesterday?

Idk.

Where was my daystart confidence can someone find that for me lmao.

[insomnia]

Either Maple doesn't have a partner or the partner decided to bus after seeing my yesterday?

Idk.

Where was my daystart confidence can someone find that for me lmao.

I think we're living in the first world even if ih can't explain it

Just in case we're living in the second, I think it's vanta / maple but that would be even more sad than it just being maple

[Maple]

Can I ask why you're so confident on grr?

You said you can't read him and yet you have him village with ease

Feel free to reply or ignore if you feel it won't help, i'm 90% voting you anyway and i don't see how that would change unless you full case ender / vanta

But I just don't think ender is a wolf, so im sorry if that's the team and im gonna mislunch you today

well we both have the same read there so yeah it probably doesnt matter

im basing it off of a lot of things, so if im wrong then oops

[EnderWiggin]

moving off maple and not elaborating on what he's claiming / reading it. no reaction to it

I mean this is basically the modus operandi of Wisdom/Maple since D2 start.

Wisdom spends a LOT of time generically sussing Maple and then just moves on as if they hadn't said it.

Also acts like it's a new sus a few times on D2. It's like one of the reasons I went in on Maple/Wisdom yesterday being a team.

[Maple]

admittedly, the situation *is* pretty dire

lmao

[EnderWiggin]

Like Maple makes sense from all the Spew I read, I'm just scared I'm wrong and handing like Vanta/Insom a win on a platter because I walked into today thinking I was smart.

[EnderWiggin]

Maple being like "I'll come back and nolife!" and then just meh posting and "Oh no, it's dire~" is...

Very wolfy tho.

[Maple]

don't worry it bothers me as much as it bothers you

probably more!

[EnderWiggin]

So if Grr is wolf and I'm losing to Grr + not-Maple, eh.

I think I'm fine with that. I gave it a fair shake and Grr would have to be Goon in that scenario and tbh like, well done?

Lots of snow be there.

So the options are 2 in a pool of Insom/Maple/Vanta.

I think I'm gonna ignore 1 wolf worlds because today can be an ML if I'm wrong in 1 wolf worlds and idc as much.

So explicitly gonna go dive Insom/Vanta and see if I think I could see it.

[Maple]

yeah ender/insom just makes 0 sense to me so its a 50/50

[insomnia]

tbh there's nothing unpairing us

but just the way i've defended them throughout the game isn't how i defend my wolfpartners, but people have a really hard time seeing things of that nature so i wouldn't blame you

probably not even grr can understand what i mean

[grr]

i mean i don't really know how to wing it in endgame situations so i'll just say what i've been reading and

i will be frank when i voted insomnia he clearly was not reading my posts as he wasn't gonna react to them, and that kinda made me feel like hes probs a villa becuz he'd pay attention as wolf lol, and that might be an omega potato read but what can ya do.

idk someone in specchat tell me if thats a reasonable take.

[insomnia]

i didn't want to bulldozer maple here, but it's kinda ludicrous he's spending more time writing thoughts out re: myself and ender when from his pov, vanta should be like at least 90% outed and is the easiest vote to make

lvl 0 that just fuels my team guess of him and vanta, but at the same time does he actually think he can get me mislunched here?

idgi

[Maple]

i dont get what you mean, insom

[insomnia]

i mean i don't really know how to wing it in endgame situations so i'll just say what i've been reading and

i will be frank when i voted insomnia he clearly was not reading my posts as he wasn't gonna react to them, and that kinda made me feel like hes probs a villa becuz he'd pay attention as wolf lol, and that might be an omega potato read but what can ya do.

idk someone in specchat tell me if thats a reasonable take.

I was gonna apologize cuz i wrote those posts on PC when you were talking to me and i was clearly backreading by the quotes i was putting in and i didn't even see you were posting to me like until an hour ago when i got on phone and i was skimming back

But then i didn't want to respond cuz im as it is in a maple or vanta / maple world so it's not like im really defending her

[EnderWiggin]

tbh there's nothing unpairing us

but just the way i've defended them throughout the game isn't how i defend my wolfpartners, but people have a really hard time seeing things of that nature so i wouldn't blame you

probably not even grr can understand what i mean

I'm sorry, you've reached the "Ender doesn't like 'I wouldn't do that' defenses" line, please try again in 3-5 business days.

[insomnia]

i dont get what you mean, insom

you villa read grr

you have 1 in ender / myself

the remainder is obviously vanta who is the easiest slot to wolfcase just cuz they're doing considerably less than anyone alive atp, yet you're not even doing that

idk maybe it's unfair but im just putting myself in your shoes and it's just a detail that seemed really glaring to me. it's odd in either alignment to type more words on myself / ender than to just tunnel vanta here ngl

[insomnia]

I was gonna apologize cuz i wrote those posts on PC when you were talking to me and i was clearly backreading by the quotes i was putting in and i didn't even see you were posting to me like until an hour ago when i got on phone and i was skimming back

But then i didn't want to respond cuz im as it is in a maple or vanta / maple world so it's not like im really defending her

And actually i think i theorized you voting me because i didn't answer but i legit just didn't see them so i didn't even address the vote lol

[Maple]

i don't really get thinking the team is me/grr, ender. We seem pretty thoroughly unpaired. And that rational being to rolecop them, too. I guess the primary level would more or less be "grr claimed i gave them a vig, and then used that vig to make a mildly strange shot onto the sunbae slot", but like *why* would we claim that when - as seen w/ vanta yesterday - its so easy to just claim *literally anything else*.

If grr!w, the reason to claim is because claiming a lie could out them to me. Or maple!w it *is* more or less RNG what item is given out, so it's sorta w/e.

I guess the argument would more or less be "i gave out a gun card to a partner on d2", but it remains that that puts me *so ridiculously far* out of position. Like, why claim arctic and not bop in that case? since bop is like the most *obvious* target for me of all time.

Like, if I'm a wolf there's more or less 0 plan and my actions are more or less random and don't make sense in the context of trying to *win this game*.

[Maple]

you villa read grr

you have 1 in ender / myself

the remainder is obviously vanta who is the easiest slot to wolfcase just cuz they're doing considerably less than anyone alive atp, yet you're not even doing that

idk maybe it's unfair but im just putting myself in your shoes and it's just a detail that seemed really glaring to me. it's odd in either alignment to type more words on myself / ender than to just tunnel vanta here ngl

im trying to solve the game

[Maple]

okay i was gonna say "i have plenty of time to try to get vanta to go over over me" but then i realized that eod is in like

80 minutes

lol

well yes, i think we should swap to vanta over me, obviously

[insomnia]

okay i was gonna say "i have plenty of time to try to get vanta to go over over me" but then i realized that eod is in like

80 minutes

lol

well yes, i think we should swap to vanta over me, obviously

Lollmfao

[Vanta Black]

okay i was gonna say "i have plenty of time to try to get vanta to go over over me" but then i realized that eod is in like

80 minutes

lol

well yes, i think we should swap to vanta over me, obviously

Well I don't think so.

[insomnia]

Well I don't think so.

Lol lmfao

[Maple]

okay im going to try a little AtE first

Yall are talking about the fact that if im a wolf, there's a decent chance that im the last wolf standing. My role is also verified, so the only way i have anything other than my card + the factional is if i have a partner. So a lone wolf Maple world does not end if we ml here.

If I am a wolf with a partner, who is my partner?

1) grr
2) insom
3) ender

If the wolf is one of you three, and we vote out vanta, we lose the game. That being said, yall have more or less narrowed things down to either being *just me* or *vanta + me*. So if we vote out vanta, the game continues, yeah?

And if I'm the last wolf standing, and we vote vanta, the game *still* continues.

So it's safe to do.

But lets keep it a stack. How bad would it feel if we voted me, Maple, out before vanta -- a very clearly safe kill today -- and the game just ends? That dead villager, after dead villager, after dead villager *died* keeping me alive day after day. That 2 PRs, Jan and dolby, died instead of me, keeping me alive.

That would really fucking suck.

And that's the world we live in. Do we want to head into DVC together like that? It'd fuckin blow. So as yall are saying, yall are clearing each other. So what's the difference? Just vote vanta today instead.

And yes, this is perhaps the literal most wolfy line I could possibly take, but cmon, am I *wrong*?

[insomnia]

Manti you're taking 2 polar opposite approaches within the span of a few minutes

You could've either cased a deep wolf

Or you could've pushed vanta

You were aiming for the first with exploring myself / ender, and are now aiming for the second

Can I ask if this is pure self pres or you actually have reasons to wolf read vanta? Cuz if you do, im not sure you said them

[grr]

So if Grr is wolf and I'm losing to Grr + not-Maple, eh.

I think I'm fine with that. I gave it a fair shake and Grr would have to be Goon in that scenario and tbh like, well done?

Lots of snow be there.

So the options are 2 in a pool of Insom/Maple/Vanta.

I think I'm gonna ignore 1 wolf worlds because today can be an ML if I'm wrong in 1 wolf worlds and idc as much.

So explicitly gonna go dive Insom/Vanta and see if I think I could see it.

By the way.

i never claim the sunbae shot if im a wolf. i dont have to. no one could have known i even had a vigshot. in fact, i probably vig the most villagery player and just dont claim it. not like anyone knows where any shots are coming from here anyway.

idk i wish i could solve this game by towncasing myself we would have zero problems then lmao.

[Maple]

anyway

yall, lets put our heads together

i know the spew looks godawful for me, outside of benneh. Yall are still going on about the EoD1 vote, despite the fact that i've explained it a million times, which is honestly *fair*

it was a blunder to not get someone to post a paragraph of meta on it before everyone able to died, oopsiepoopsie

And I know my voting this game has been pretty bad. The votes on knights, me not voting the day dolby died -- yeah, i think those are all the blunders so far, really.

It's all *really* bad. But think about it, it's *so* bad that there's no possible way that I'm a wolf with a line to win, right? Like even right now, if I'm a wolf im absolutely fucked stupid. But my play *does* make sense in the context of an uninformed, absolutely shitass, washed villager. Right? My reads have been on the bad side of mid, my role actions have been just plain *ineffectual*. My day play has been pretty dog, there's been some bad luck and my periods of wim have been annoyingly baron as far as like gameplay things go.

But is that wolfy? Well, yeah, but it isn't the play of a wolf.

[Maple]

Manti you're taking 2 polar opposite approaches within the span of a few minutes

You could've either cased a deep wolf

Or you could've pushed vanta

You were aiming for the first with exploring myself / ender, and are now aiming for the second

Can I ask if this is pure self pres or you actually have reasons to wolf read vanta? Cuz if you do, im not sure you said them

well i was hoping to get the exact team squared away, then switching to winning the 1v1. But uh

i don't have time for that

so im switching gears

[grr]

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