Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia

[Maple]

i didn't spend much time alive in pokemash lol i don't really remember a whole lot of the lategame events

just peeked a deep wolf and died ez

hey we were both villas in hsr right before that too that's not tooooo long

good point new plan

hardclaim bomb inventor

[Totally not Taffy]

good point new plan

hardclaim bomb inventor

I volunteer as tribute

I promise I will not pick you

Taffy (8)

[Totally not Taffy]

Damn I thought there were ppl here when I started posting and nobody's commented or asked me anything

See you later I guess

Taffy (9)

[didistetter]

I volunteer as tribute

I promise I will not pick you

Taffy (8)

@Totally not Taffy why didn't this message frmo maple concern you at all if you're a bomb arso?

[didistetter]

good point new plan

hardclaim bomb inventor

uh hang on a sec lol

so @Maple you knew bombs were a thing.....

[Totally not Taffy]

uh hang on a sec lol

so @Maple you knew bombs were a thing.....

I had that same thought, but I don't think Maple would've defended me EoD1 when Rask was being voted if they were wolf buddies

Taffy (3)

[didistetter]

taff and i -- i think -- have only played one game together? where we were w/w. But like, we didnt really *interact* in that game, so all yall talking about meta with her or w/e is beyond me, gonna take it on cred and deposite it in the bank (this is fraud). My personal read is "shrug dont really care". Dya is just getting into things, and I'm back and forth on them. Don't feel like elaborating rn, plus idt it matters?l.

Oh ffs I'm PR and there's anti-claim get off you dunces

How many ways can I soft it

Ohhhhhhhhh THATS what you meant

Lmao

You really think I need an excuse to vote a twink like you? cmon
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2 minutes how are we kiling taf lol sheep me on this one yall

@Totally not Taffy these were the only times maple came anywhere near to mentioning you lol. I'm not sure if you're misreading the last message but she wasn't defending you. Lissa and I explicitly pushed to dismantle the wagon on you and Maple through this out when we were already explicitly not limming you.

She wasn't saying sheep me on taffy town
She was asking us to sheep her on slaughtering annika


I'm confused how you're processing eod. Because it was: wagon on you -> you claim. -> i vote ladd, ben and maybe others followed -> sunbae claims -> mild panic -> annika pushes maple, maple pushes annika, arctic pushes you -> waza keeps voting and unvoting and trying to signal like a traffic light -> i say fuck this let's shrugyeet the 0 poster -> we shrug yeet the zero poster.

if anything manti instantly realizing you were crumbing looks worse given maf had mech knowledge of bombs.

[Totally not Taffy]

@Totally not Taffy these were the only times maple came anywhere near to mentioning you lol. I'm not sure if you're misreading the last message but she wasn't defending you. Lissa and I explicitly pushed to dismantle the wagon on you and Maple through this out when we were already explicitly not limming you.

She wasn't saying sheep me on taffy town
She was asking us to sheep her on slaughtering annika


I'm confused how you're processing eod. Because it was: wagon on you -> you claim. -> i vote ladd, ben and maybe others followed -> sunbae claims -> mild panic -> annika pushes maple, maple pushes annika, arctic pushes you -> waza keeps voting and unvoting and trying to signal like a traffic light -> i say fuck this let's shrugyeet the 0 poster -> we shrug yeet the zero poster.

if anything manti instantly realizing you were crumbing looks worse given maf had mech knowledge of bombs.

I do take those posts as her believing me and saying not to kill me
ymmv

You're right though that one of the ppl defending me might very well have been a wolf but I'd lean you or Lissa over Maple

Taffy (4)

[ladd]

Claim seems believable

Lettuce see tho

[Visor]

2. ladd
4. didistetter
6. nebjiamn
7. Maple
8. Lissa
9. Arctic
10. waza
11. Taffy
12. Ender
13. annika
14. dyachei
15. pzelda

Thread generally thinks Lissa and pzelda are clear

I think decent chance dya is clear

I'm reversing path on arctic, believe they believed their group of three was v and was struggling to figure out who is actually pulling the strings and I fit that bill easily

Annika improved over the day phase and voted wolf

Taffy pr

Ender possible wolf but also played in a way that was low ev

Maple played in a low ev way

Waza honestly no super strong impression but seems ok

Stett y'all think is clear

Then who's left?

Wolves are ladd and benneh

Potential for fourth wolf which is possibly ender (or perhaps someone we are thread clearing to easily)

Thinking about arctica D1 and how eod played out

vote: nebjiamn

[Visor]

The way benneh pushing for maple and how things are playing out seems Wolfy to me

[nebjiamn]

2. ladd
4. didistetter
6. nebjiamn
7. Maple
8. Lissa
9. Arctic
10. waza
11. Taffy
12. Ender
13. annika
14. dyachei
15. pzelda

Thread generally thinks Lissa and pzelda are clear

I think decent chance dya is clear

I'm reversing path on arctic, believe they believed their group of three was v and was struggling to figure out who is actually pulling the strings and I fit that bill easily

Annika improved over the day phase and voted wolf

Taffy pr

Ender possible wolf but also played in a way that was low ev

Maple played in a low ev way

Waza honestly no super strong impression but seems ok

Stett y'all think is clear

Then who's left?

Wolves are ladd and benneh

Potential for fourth wolf which is possibly ender (or perhaps someone we are thread clearing to easily)

Thinking about arctica D1 and how eod played out

vote: nebjiamn

if that's your poe why would you ever think i'm the correct first vote here lol

[didistetter]

I do take those posts as her believing me and saying not to kill me
ymmv

You're right though that one of the ppl defending me might very well have been a wolf but I'd lean you or Lissa over Maple

Taffy (4)

:wowee:

why?

and maple did not defend you. Please read back eod. Maple's focus was entirely OMGUSing annika and shading arctic.

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visor be so fr what

why is ben wolf if your other reads are "thread thinks lissa and pzelda are clear" "yall think stett is clear" "waza is forgettable" "maple and ender are playing low ev"

what do YOU think

how does ben's play fit wolf agenda?

[Maple]

:wowee:

why?

and maple did not defend you. Please read back eod. Maple's focus was entirely OMGUSing annika and shading arctic.

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visor be so fr what

why is ben wolf if your other reads are "thread thinks lissa and pzelda are clear" "yall think stett is clear" "waza is forgettable" "maple and ender are playing low ev"

what do YOU think

how does ben's play fit wolf agenda?

When did I shade arctic hello?

[Totally not Taffy]

When I saw Rask flipped wolf I remembered this conversation Benneh and Lissa had (I've truncated them to only the relevant parts)

by the way, i had a think in my car on the drive home and i'm going to be annoyed but more understanding of waza's play today if we find out he's like, in a neighborhood with a few people up to and including rask, and that's why he chose to play today with the vigilance of a thousand suns against a zero poster while he defends a bunch of other people without any reason while placating to several other people in the thread before he could have any real substantial read on said people at any point

if that's not the case and he's just punting around as whatever he is then ill also be annoyed but less understanding

Yeah waza's posting around rask is weird unless he's... exactly in a neighborhood with rask lol you're not wrong

And I think I misunderstood what Benneh was saying bc to me "vigilance" means "watchfulness" and therefore "being protective of someone" and Happy was not protective of Rask at all (all Happy posts about Rask up till that point in spoiler)

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How many in rask ladd taffy dya?

Hopefully not more than 1 because these are some of my fav people to be town with but I’m getting an inkling it’s maybe 2 just by rng and stuff

Vote:raskilnikov

I need the towncred so I gotta bus u bronana

All wolves should be in
Ender v but my weakest v


Rask sunbae maple lissa arctic taffy dya Zelda

Damn this is a longer list than I envisioned before I typed this out lol

Oh well atleast rask is meowted so that’s one less to worry about

I think an ender vote will probs be the least info providing vote lol, especially since he’s probs v imo

I get why you might do it, and if part of it I’m guessing is the hopes it will drive him to be more productive or readable fypo. But from memory I don’t think it’s gonna work, he usually has his mind made up on whatever meme and gimmick he’s gonna do d1 and tends to stick to it but eventually later on in the game after a couple of days starts to pick up and play properly.

One might call me a hypocrite since my vote is on rask, but the difference is that rask is a wolf and meowted

That post is mostly for others not for me, I’m committed to bussing rask today lol

I do have Arctic related thoughts but I wanna sit down and properly digest his walls and then respond properly to them before I decide what I’m doing with Arctic

But now having gathered them all to make this post I assume the vigilance referred to something like being very focused on something (in this case the zero-poster)?

Anyway this is a lead-in to ask @nebjiamn and @Lissa why they aren't pushing Happy today for the over the top TWTBAW "I'm bussing Rask" joke three times and then voting there EoD but switching off when the wagon actually takes off.

Taffy (6)

[nebjiamn]

i grilled him about that already and my thoughts are in my large post. i found his answer satisfactory and after pondering things some more i'm really not all that concerned about him because the rest of his actions mostly make up for that.

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i know this will make people more sus of me for 3p hunting but i'm decently sure taffy is just a 3p arso here at best. i just don't think they're town with more of how the game unfolds lol

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specifically, the way sunbae and arctic's roles work iss very counter-intuitive to being utilized in a game with town arson KP -- its extremely negative utilty to create a town role that can have targets soak up KP from wolf targets while ALSO giving wolves a way to detonate or disarm those bombs themselves.

[nebjiamn]

rask's role + sunbae's role + likely arctic's role == a scenario where the town KP and protectives work together to ensure wolves can't really die but town detonations always go off

we are probably exactly in a world where town and wolves have utility and the game is augmented by a swingy but overall low-output KP in the form of a 3rd party who is truly neutral

fuckin a, cool setup gemma (unironic!!!!!!!!!!)

[annika]

uh hang on a sec lol

so @Maple you knew bombs were a thing.....

gosh you are so townie lol

[ladd]

Benneh isnt a wolf

Enders post wrt arctic i didnt like, seems like he started from the conclusion (which i guess is somewhat true lol) and then is trying to justify it vs giving arctic a genujne read. I am not good at reading ender tho

[EnderWiggin]

Benneh isnt a wolf

Enders post wrt arctic i didnt like, seems like he started from the conclusion (which i guess is somewhat true lol) and then is trying to justify it vs giving arctic a genujne read. I am not good at reading ender tho

First three points were things I noted prior to having any real read.

I will full acknowledge I was primed towards wolfreading him by the end of that list of posts.

I do notice you have given 0 thought on my initial point at any point I've brought it up.