Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia

[Lissa]

lissa who are you saying is the second wolf to maple in that post, I don’t see a second wolf read but you’re talking about room for lost eolves

maybe a me problem

Waza.

[nebjiamn]

Ok a me problem, I misread something

[waza]

Waza.

So u think me and maple are w/w and I ended eod by asking maple to be invited and gave you a chance to cw them with me to which you replied “maple is just town” when I could simple just not offer that and vote either you or ender if that was v/v wagons

Anyways lol I don’t know what else to say to that other than lol

But yeah talk more about why Stett is town and your Zelda read, I’m curious on those. Preflip me town for a second and solve there

[Lissa]

So u think me and maple are w/w and I ended eod by asking maple to be invited and gave you a chance to cw them with me to which you replied “maple is just town” when I could simple just not offer that and vote either you or ender if that was v/v wagons

Anyways lol I don’t know what else to say to that other than lol

But yeah talk more about why Stett is town and your Zelda read, I’m curious on those. Preflip me town for a second and solve there

I mean I think it was pretty clear that maple wasn't ever actually going to go over there. No matter what I did. So feels kinda performative?

Wish I'd seen what she was doing then instead of afterward but I'm not sure it really would have changed much of anything.

But yeah I mean it's certainly possible I am wrong re: you. I just talked about pzelda a chunk, will a bit more, and will stett as well momentarily

[dyachei]

What makes you sure she’s wolf now? Just Enders flip or how did you process it ig


also dya, I found you early on d1, I’m not relying on ladds read for anything. I am frustrated that’s been a point of contention with regard to discussing your slot more than anything cause I’ve toenrrad nearly everything you had besides last nights eod

talk me thru who it is fypov if it’s not just lissa/maple, cause that means we have a misclear that’s pretty deep in the towncore and you have a pretty decent view of the game in that world

you seem pretty sure and you caught her last game. You also are my top villager. Im not just sheeping, i think she fits as a possible wolf, too

Idk why maple targeted me last night tbh

[Lissa]

I was thinking about this and having two half lightning rods and a bomber makes more sense than one half redirector, one bomber and an inventor with a possibility to clear more players. Or does it not?

I can't help myself I like Arctic based on their recent posts. If they really are mafia, this is a bold offensive (tbh @Arctic I used phrases such as "if they flip wolf" in my post claim comments). Before the claim my feeling was that
Also, why would Arctic claim there as a wolf? It would be risky as there could be a cc. The only option would be they were a wolf redirector and I can't see why would anyone put that role in.
Ofc that leads to me thinking about Benneh. Mostly, because I think he should be one of these players pointing out that slips don't exist. At least I believe so.
I'm not jumping to conclusions just ruminating my options for the rest of D2.

So, let's get back to it.
First, let's talk about claims a little bit further. Taffy's almost always real. I think they got rather towny before eod too and their claim just makes sense. Now, would it make sense for them to soft if they were mafia? Mayhaps. Would a setting with two redirectors and an inventor be balanced with a mafia bomber? It sounds quite balanced to me, but mafia wouldn't need a defuser. So, they're town 9 times out of ten with a slight possibility of being a lost wolf or a 3p.
Now let's talk about the inventor. I think I would like to know details on what can the role invent outside of 1x track. Town inventor is possibly swingy tbh. Mafia inventor possibly too. It can be quite powerful if used well as it has a chance to clear others. So far it works as an investigative role. The setup with two half redirectors and a bomber against a diffuser and a inventor sounds pro-towm tbh.
Now, I think the worst thing about Arctic's claim isn't a balancing issue. But the way they hinted at being vanilla and that they actually claimed it. And if the claim is real an even night redirector would make some sense as a mafia role. For example redirecting the track or the inventor's gift. So, it's the weakest claim even without that slip.
Like Arctic is the only claim I'm willing to vote.
When I'm back I will check their actual posts.

The problem of playing the game while also doing something else is that I tend to forget details. So, let's focus on broader stokes. The first thing I liked is that Arctic came back and started fighting. And tbh his posts are quite contentful. If mafia, he's quite confident in his skill to sway us away.
I agree that his Lissa and Ben reads are a weak salsa. I was thinking about that while writing the previous lines and I hope I'm not creating a narrative here. For w!Arctic targeting Benneh or Lissa would be an obvious strategy here. Their death would mean a removal of a strong town player. It would be a win win for an evil Arctic. They would stay alive longer, remove a threat and get another chance to thrive.
If Arctic is V, I see some logic in pushing the people who push you.

Also, the bus driver is driving like crazy, honking his way through traffic.

Why is Annika in towncores again I don't like the tone here.

Also, to give this post another purpose. Let's discuss an option of Arctic not being a wolf. If Arctic's real and town, who is Mafia?

I might feel alien because I haven't been able to properly get the feel for the game today. Esp, after the claim. I believe Benneh, but I also had some doubts. Now, I'm back to almost blidnly trusting him. And that means trusting Lissa too. The thing with Benneh is that I not only read him as town I trust him enough to sheep him and to keep my vote on Arctic. You might have noticed that I was exploring some options, but I kept my vote firmly on Arctic.

like he NEVER F'ING ACKNOWLEDGES the ACTUAL reason arctic was the core focus in the way he was, the reason he was "outed", he talks about literally everything else except for kind of acknowledging benneh for it way late and weirdly

[pzelda]

like he NEVER F'ING ACKNOWLEDGES the ACTUAL reason arctic was the core focus in the way he was, the reason he was "outed", he talks about literally everything else except for kind of acknowledging benneh for it way late and weirdly

I knew about Benneh's post. Idk how to explain my activity there. It was something I took into account. It's why I was sitting on Arctic (mostly). It was my reason for talking about arctic and their claim a lot. I probably would move my vote and my focus more otherwise, because there were moments I found villa (esp. from "an outed wolf") like the level of activity and them trying to leave legacy.

[nebjiamn]

you seem pretty sure and you caught her last game. You also are my top villager. Im not just sheeping, i think she fits as a possible wolf, too

Idk why maple targeted me last night tbh

honestly i'm not super sure, if i had a dayvig i'd kill maple here cause i sorta see them a bit unpaired and i think maples been more wolfy overall, but lissa's eod stunk a lot

like IMO maple's eod2 (and eod1) was just overt wolfing whereas lissa only has 1 eod as an overt wolf (pre-emptively gonna say her EOD1 was just sorta wolfy, not quite overt levels)


having said that, i townread visor a lot and ladd just died and i think those two things specifically point to lissa a lot



what generous gift did manti bestow upon you today

[Maple]

you seem pretty sure and you caught her last game. You also are my top villager. Im not just sheeping, i think she fits as a possible wolf, too

Idk why maple targeted me last night tbh

Thought you were both v and unlikely to die in the night

[Maple]

If lissa's a wolf I'll take the L on that man idk she doesnt post THAT good as wolf

but the way visor put it of the waza push being some mash-like overextension at EoD is like kinda real tho esp since shes wolf so much in mashes, i can see the vision

meow meow

apparently i deserve to feel so unconfident in my reads, i need to go over stuff again and start back over

someone call me an idiot for v reading like benneh, dya, stett or smth i keep closing my PoE and not liking the results

[Maple]

nah fuck it

vote: taffy

[Totally not Taffy]

you seem pretty sure and you caught her last game. You also are my top villager. Im not just sheeping, i think she fits as a possible wolf, too

Idk why maple targeted me last night tbh

Aha

@dyachei can you clear me with it?