Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia

[Totally not Taffy]

If you haven't seen it, I recommend it heartily. Reminded me of Get Shorty and the early Tarantino movies. Had some really cool references that I'm sure I didn't all spot.

Taffy (14)

[Totally not Taffy]

brother there's no world maple is nightkilled this game. if they're town they're an essential miskill for the woofs and maple has no way of clearing themself atp

if the game continues after today, one of stett/you/visor will die in all likelihood. probably the person who townreads me the most and/or townreads pzelda the least cause I think those are the next most viable miselims, especially if i incorrectly push maple out today

I'm going to add to that that the best time to kill town!Maple was N2 right after her claim bc it stops her from handing out more goodies, any protection that might exist should be on Visor that night, and it makes Annika and Stett look worse for having pushed her D1.

Taffy (15)

[Totally not Taffy]

on a pure level zero read, the fact that lissa didnt want to pivot to maple is just weird if maple is v, but i guess if maple is v and defending you you cant afford to switch to them

w/e i will research tmrw

Bit of a nonsequitur but Lissa not following you on Benneh can be explained by the fact that she needed to have Dyachei vote with her to have a chance of success and Dyachei strongly townread Benneh iirc.

Taffy (16)

[Totally not Taffy]

lol well that’s why I was trying to leash both of you earlier in the game but I was alone in that matter

No, Annika and iirc Stett made suggestions too

Taffy (17)

[Maple]

Okay I'm chill now.

I'm gonna go over shit one more time.

We are currently at f7. If we accept the hypothesis that I'm an arsonist, if I were to ignite and kill tonight, the game goes to an f3 and I die.

If taffy is an arsonist and ignites tonight, the game ends and we lose.

We are in f7. If the wolves have no additional KP, it is impossible for the game to end on a ML today.

So. Seeing bennehs arsonist argument today? Shits dumb. If we're trying to mitigate or odds of losing the game? Taff is the only reasonable kill today.

I admit that I've tunneled this game. I'm still tunneling. So if yall, waza and nl whom I'm confident aren't wolves, REALLY think I'm being a dumbfuck tunneling a villager, alright. Maybe i am. Maybe I need to accept that yall are right and I'm dumb and taff is v and my reads are shit. Idk if yall want me to wash my hands of that, then sure.

But like, let's just refocus first. We are in f7. Assuming a world of 1, we have 2 mls here. Assuming I'm arso, we have 1. Assuming taff is arso, we have 0.

It's loss mitigation.

Outside of all that? The game is hard. I went through my reads already. I don't think it's waza because lissa genuinely struggled to kill him. Wazas d1 is REALLY FUCKING WEIRD but that was a month ago and I'm sure he had his reasons for it. Like, w/e I know stett told me to go over it and like... I *dont* know what the rask stuff was and I don't know how to make an alignment read off it. But based on the later stuff, lock v.

I've t a liked at length about nl and why I'm confident there. I saw a couple people tinfoiling I think? I forget who, the game is a bit of a blur. Targeting stett with the track? Kinda dumb but w/e. I really think he's village off his posts. He's talking to me like he's a villager, and idr him.bejng... so obvious about it preciously, I suppose. There was that one particular post the other day that sold me. Idk I could say more but meow.

That leaves stett benneh zelda, so lemme think.

Stetts d1 pr projection shit she claimed is dumb but I just don't know why she'd do that as wolf. More on topic, lissa talked to her like she's a villager. Idk I reread that eod and meow meow it really did just come down to lissa having us pocketed so mb lol fortunately I think it was pretty thoroughly clearing for stett and waza. Atett was posting well socially before that but in this endgame I'm guessing that on its own isn't good enough. I think atm she's reas confidence #3.

Okay I'm getting tired again and might go back to bed.

Tldr thoughts

My benneh read this game has been complicated and dumb. The artic shit and not reading rasks role correctly swung him back to v for me. That said.... I don't think it's the other thre.

He's repping an ultra confident v read onto zelda and shrug if he's v we should take that on credit, I suppose.

Meow eepy sorry

[Totally not Taffy]

@Totally not Taffy who did you ignite last night

[Visor]

Taffy for the love of god

Just claim everything

It's f7

[nebjiamn]

wowee

[Totally not Taffy]

@Totally not Taffy

I don't care about your pr equity just claim everything please

How will that help?

How will you know I'm not making something up? For anyone who's sufficiently confbiased my role will probably work as 3p. You're always going to have to look at what I've done this game and judge off of that.

Honestly I don't see how you can look at what I've done and think I'm not town. And if you can't see that and you really need to use one of town's misyeets on me rather than any of the other players then go ahead.

Taffy (19)

[Visor]

How will that help?

How will you know I'm not making something up? For anyone who's sufficiently confbiased my role will probably work as 3p. You're always going to have to look at what I've done this game and judge off of that.

Honestly I don't see how you can look at what I've done and think I'm not town. And if you can't see that and you really need to use one of town's misyeets on me rather than any of the other players then go ahead.

Taffy (19)

Of course we can't know

But it can help us to make a decision

Knowing everything about your role in conjunction with rasks is important

[Totally not Taffy]

why do you think wolves have an inventor that gives trackers when they already have a role that can track, serves no utility other than trying to clear themselves from the claim if lissa dies first. which tbf is pretty OP but like im not used to these kinda setups being a thing so idk how likely that is, given from my experience that sample size is exactly 0

Ok yeah maybe it would help.

I started the game with 1 bomb (which I used on Arctic)
I would have gotten more bombs by getting targeted at night, but I never was, so there are no bombs anywhere at all.
All existing bombs ignite when I am NKed, so if I had gotten more bombs, and given Rask's role, I felt that "arsonist but with a twist" was close enough, and also, I genuinely lol'ed when I saw my role required me to get NKed in a lobby that's 90% SPKs, claiming a more dangerous kp than I actually was felt like the way to go. Only I was then not NKed and stuck having to keep up the pretense which was a bit shit.

But forcing the wolves to hand townies targeting night actions makes sense if you consider that they might have had some kind of warning about it, so there would be targeting out there but they had a chance of giving it to ppl for whom they could predict who they'd target. If you go through my iso, there are countless posts where I reference or flat out ask to be targeted.

I had such high hopes for Stett, but then Happy said not to jail me, and it was late and close to EoD and I just couldn't come up with any way to reply to it without being too obvious.

Also if you're wondering why I asked Visor to confirm that I hadn't done anything, it was a) to get another suggestion out there, and b) bc I was nursing a Visor/Maple tinfoil at the time (where the track would've been fabricated) and I wanted to see if he'd make the mistake of confirming when I knew he hadn't tracked me.

Taffy (20)

[Maple]

...

[Maple]

Wolves visit 4+ whatever thr last role each night.

Village visits 2-3 per night.

That's like 6-8 visits per night, or so, depending on the last role.

Literally then why not claim this when you highlighted me using the word vengeful?

I'm making lunch

[Maple]

Do your bombs ignore protection?

[nebjiamn]

Bro the last bit about the maple visor tinfoil is so townie lmao

[Totally not Taffy]

Yeah I'm sorry but I'm just going to dip I'm a bit done atm

I should be super clear to anyone based on how I treated Arctic/Lissa, tried to work towards a better solve, Idk
You shouldn't have needed me to spell out my role, and I don't see how it possibly helps

See you later

Taffy (21)

[Totally not Taffy]

Do your bombs ignore protection?

No, forgot about that

[Maple]

I'm retiring

[Visor]

Yeah I'm sorry but I'm just going to dip I'm a bit done atm

I should be super clear to anyone based on how I treated Arctic/Lissa, tried to work towards a better solve, Idk
You shouldn't have needed me to spell out my role, and I don't see how it possibly helps

See you later

Taffy (21)

I mean you just explained it in a way that makes sense to me

And now my tinfoil on you is resting

[Maple]

Nah just kill me before game goes to f3, kill benneh, and yall can sort it out from there if the games still going idc

Taff claim explains everything and I fucking hate it like literally just claim next time we need the setup to make sense and it fucking doesn't when someone is larping as a full kp role who fails to get a single action off jesus

[Visor]

I think I am just gonna go ahead and say taffy is v

[Visor]

So, benneh, where are you at on stett/waza

[nebjiamn]

I think I am just gonna go ahead and say taffy is v

Agreed

I’m not even worried about 3p anymore (ok maybe 2% worried but I was legit thinking they were 80% 3p before the explanation)

[nebjiamn]

So, benneh, where are you at on stett/waza

Stett should be v more than waza is imo but I think both are >>>rand

i can’t elaborate rn but if there’s an f3 id imagine it’s one of you/waza, taffy, and one of Zelda/stett and id probably be rooting for the you/waza slot to be getting voted in dvc

[pzelda]

Okay I'm chill now.

I'm gonna go over shit one more time.

We are currently at f7. If we accept the hypothesis that I'm an arsonist, if I were to ignite and kill tonight, the game goes to an f3 and I die.

If taffy is an arsonist and ignites tonight, the game ends and we lose.

We are in f7. If the wolves have no additional KP, it is impossible for the game to end on a ML today.

So. Seeing bennehs arsonist argument today? Shits dumb. If we're trying to mitigate or odds of losing the game? Taff is the only reasonable kill today.

I admit that I've tunneled this game. I'm still tunneling. So if yall, waza and nl whom I'm confident aren't wolves, REALLY think I'm being a dumbfuck tunneling a villager, alright. Maybe i am. Maybe I need to accept that yall are right and I'm dumb and taff is v and my reads are shit. Idk if yall want me to wash my hands of that, then sure.

But like, let's just refocus first. We are in f7. Assuming a world of 1, we have 2 mls here. Assuming I'm arso, we have 1. Assuming taff is arso, we have 0.

It's loss mitigation.

Outside of all that? The game is hard. I went through my reads already. I don't think it's waza because lissa genuinely struggled to kill him. Wazas d1 is REALLY FUCKING WEIRD but that was a month ago and I'm sure he had his reasons for it. Like, w/e I know stett told me to go over it and like... I *dont* know what the rask stuff was and I don't know how to make an alignment read off it. But based on the later stuff, lock v.

I've t a liked at length about nl and why I'm confident there. I saw a couple people tinfoiling I think? I forget who, the game is a bit of a blur. Targeting stett with the track? Kinda dumb but w/e. I really think he's village off his posts. He's talking to me like he's a villager, and idr him.bejng... so obvious about it preciously, I suppose. There was that one particular post the other day that sold me. Idk I could say more but meow.

That leaves stett benneh zelda, so lemme think.

Stetts d1 pr projection shit she claimed is dumb but I just don't know why she'd do that as wolf. More on topic, lissa talked to her like she's a villager. Idk I reread that eod and meow meow it really did just come down to lissa having us pocketed so mb lol fortunately I think it was pretty thoroughly clearing for stett and waza. Atett was posting well socially before that but in this endgame I'm guessing that on its own isn't good enough. I think atm she's reas confidence #3.

Okay I'm getting tired again and might go back to bed.

Tldr thoughts

My benneh read this game has been complicated and dumb. The artic shit and not reading rasks role correctly swung him back to v for me. That said.... I don't think it's the other thre.

He's repping an ultra confident v read onto zelda and shrug if he's v we should take that on credit, I suppose.

Meow eepy sorry

Hm, I don't think anyone thinks you could be an arsonist. Your power is pretty much confirmed. It kind of weirds me out seeing that in your post.
Also, maybe I would prefer if you suspected me indivindually or townread me on your own.

Btw Taffy not being willing to claim their actions makes me think they're town. The reason is that they are not caring about looking towny in that regard or helpful.

[Visor]

Inb4 stett is the RB

[nebjiamn]

Stett should be v more than waza is imo but I think both are >>>rand

i can’t elaborate rn but if there’s an f3 id imagine it’s one of you/waza, taffy, and one of Zelda/stett and id probably be rooting for the you/waza slot to be getting voted in dvc

In case this becomes relevant at an f3, feel free to go against my legacy on Stett

i can’t lock her in, there’s plenty of weird shit I can’t parse from day 1. I think she should be town way more than not but I would not bet on that in an f3 I’m not participating in so feel free to do whatever in the worlds you’re v and end up there
(I know each player itg prob knows this but I’m just pre emptively disallowing any “X read me right just sheep them” arguments later on)

[Maple]

okay chat i am a bastion of calm what do we need before the day ends

if i had to choose 1 read to be most confident in its prob my waza read, thats the one ive scrutinized the most and have come away strongly v every time.

that means it'd be REALLY funny if yall made him the game losing ml, so get to that

[Visor]

okay chat i am a bastion of calm what do we need before the day ends

if i had to choose 1 read to be most confident in its prob my waza read, thats the one ive scrutinized the most and have come away strongly v every time.

that means it'd be REALLY funny if yall made him the game losing ml, so get to that

Look into stett benneh and Zelda then

[Maple]

i dont even expect benneh to flip wolf atp but i recognize that we both need to die for our crimes against the village cause we only have 2 safe MLs left and we both lose the f3 a scary amount of the time

so like if youre REALLY confident in your zelda read, i guess it would just be stett? i REALLY dont think its visor, and like idt he needs to pocket me in the way he did as w when he can just get me killed. his hands off "i thinkyoure v but youre being a bitch" sorta deal is villagery and he was the person who wanted lissa dead the most since like d2 or smth? idr the exact timeline