Kylo Ren's Banana Time Mafia

[EnderWiggin]

I would be very surprised if Jan is a wolf fwiw. This isn't quite the level of when I say it about Dya in recent games here but it's only just below that.

Unironically it might be Sunbae as wolf too.

Sadly. :(

[EnderWiggin]

@Visor why were you so obsessed with me on D1 in terms of getting a full cast consensus on my posts?

[Visor]

@Visor why were you so obsessed with me on D1 in terms of getting a full cast consensus on my posts?

honestly i just thought your entrance was weak and i was trying to get opinions before saying anything in case i influenced peoples responses

but i also know that i have misread you in recent games so i didn't want to just go all in (also because we are friends)

part of why i gave ladd such a hard time when he thought you were lock wolf and then switched

[Raskolnikov]

Vote: Maple

[EnderWiggin]

i will say that im confused mechanically on why a wolf would ever give the gun to a villager in that situation unless they had the poison bomb, but i dont think you can know you had a poison bomb? id imagine a wolf would just give it to a wolf and be quiet about it. so theres a small part of me concerned that its a maple-esque "have a wolf kill a wolf in the night to mechanically clear them" play that we've seen in these small games, but i will cross that bridge if i come to it. hopefully its just maple/ladd

I probably don't need to defend myself of this but like:
If I'm w/w and I want to get clear off Jan because I think they're gonna die then I just don't shoot and try to bus them hard today.

Shooting in the night is a KoolMechPlayz.tm but like, giving town an extra ml feels bad?

[EnderWiggin]

Like idk how I get more town points off bussing via gun rather than just voting during the day. And the night shot just gives town more room to find wolves.

[EnderWiggin]

I am looking at d2 wagons and uh why isnt visor just a wolf

Mislunching waza there is a crime afaict

Lissa i have vague recollection being not paired with jan

Lissa is clear off spew imo.

[Sunbae]

Unironically it might be Sunbae as wolf too.

Sadly. :(

nah, just a bad post that i fixed on day 2!

[Sunbae]

i think its just ladd and maple

visor, lissa seem pretty villa
rasks posts today are good
ender claimed the kill


forgive me if i do not wall today (tho i note that if its ladd and maple my conclusions were correct i just voted wrong!!!)

[Sunbae]

i will say that im confused mechanically on why a wolf would ever give the gun to a villager in that situation unless they had the poison bomb, but i dont think you can know you had a poison bomb? id imagine a wolf would just give it to a wolf and be quiet about it. so theres a small part of me concerned that its a maple-esque "have a wolf kill a wolf in the night to mechanically clear them" play that we've seen in these small games, but i will cross that bridge if i come to it. hopefully its just maple/ladd

[Sunbae]

i will say that im confused mechanically on why a wolf would ever give the gun to a villager in that situation unless they had the poison bomb, but i dont think you can know you had a poison bomb? id imagine a wolf would just give it to a wolf and be quiet about it. so theres a small part of me concerned that its a maple-esque "have a wolf kill a wolf in the night to mechanically clear them" play that we've seen in these small games, but i will cross that bridge if i come to it. hopefully its just maple/ladd

or perhaps gave it to cape, killed cape, and then had ender claim

or perhaps just gave it to the villager most likely to not kill him and it didnt work, shrug. ill worry about it if it comes up but wanted to get it out there just in case

[Visor]

Yeah I thought about it a bit

There's a few worlds

If w/v

Gave it to villager who is not likely to kill him, or someone they think they convince. Or possibly someone who if they do shoot, is still suspect due to the argument itself, so it doesn't actually clear them if it doesn't work
. If it works great, you survive and get an ally and probably can still get the other fella killed if you die because they didn't kill you. If you die people may suspect that it was w/w setup and still potentially kill them

If w/w
Killed to send deep, or you don't kill and try to align together or something

Banking on ppl thinking killed wolf therefore v

Jan was getting heat but he wasn't outed, and the wolves shot cape and not lissa or me so in that sense it's possible that they weren't playing for Jan to lock die

Jan did village read ender iirc and might've seen it as a way to potentially get both worlds either way

Worth thinking about

[Visor]

Enders posts today are ok and he responded quick enough when I asked about the chat though if he's a wolf they would've already discussed it so that's probably a moot point

What do you think of rask sunabe

[Lissa]

Yeah I thought about it a bit

There's a few worlds

If w/v

Gave it to villager who is not likely to kill him, or someone they think they convince. Or possibly someone who if they do shoot, is still suspect due to the argument itself, so it doesn't actually clear them if it doesn't work
. If it works great, you survive and get an ally and probably can still get the other fella killed if you die because they didn't kill you. If you die people may suspect that it was w/w setup and still potentially kill them

If w/w
Killed to send deep, or you don't kill and try to align together or something

Banking on ppl thinking killed wolf therefore v

Jan was getting heat but he wasn't outed, and the wolves shot cape and not lissa or me so in that sense it's possible that they weren't playing for Jan to lock die

Jan did village read ender iirc and might've seen it as a way to potentially get both worlds either way

Worth thinking about

yeah there's some possible layers to it

think from a w jan/v ender pov, the candidates are basically ender or raskol right if you want to give it for real, everyone else will just blast you i think

honestly, giving it to a villager there is REALLY bold. we'd have gone into mylo if that kill didn't go off on him; that kill actually bought us a miskill. (well. yeah i mean like. there's another one of those things out there. not even sure if it's optimal to use tn? i mean if we hit maybe, if we miss it's an interesting q. anyway)

i mean i think he was obv gonna die today if not last night

so like it's high risk high reward and honestly doesn't really feel that high reward, lol, i'm hard pressed to believe it accomplishes a lot

i mean if he actually lives mylo obviously that's big upside but idk why he would think it was likely there tbh

i had the thought of them giving it to cape and then just having ender fakeclaim it if the kill goes off and not if it doesn't and try to use it as a vouch from the dead villa but giving cape that shot seems questionable i can't imagine that lives the night in many worlds lol and giving it to ender w of that world just makes a lot more sense, more control over the outcome with no clear downside relative to giving to cape i can see

wait oh i will say actually

no i'm wrong just there because genuinely giving it to another wolf is a GAMBLE, you could also get yourself killed too lol

so in the w/w world the shot probably was actually done by cape

although, it feels reasonably possible the wolves have /some/ sort of bomb investigation honestly

also it's weird for the wolves to kill into their target of it bc it could waste kp if jan was a bomb (obv we know this not to be true now but)