Quote Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar View Post
Yeah Koga, I love the Nazis!
Just like I love those evil Jihad Palestinians!


Churchill could have said, no, simple and straight to the Czechs, thus absolving himself of the crime, he could have said, no, to the Russian deportations and mass murders, but he did not he thought all this was great.

Now, I am eternally greatful to the man and his men for saving my country from the Nazis, but great men all do great evil, and for the sake of those killed, their hands tied and children crying, during the war
I think it is healthy to discuss the issue. I think we can agree that killing children is killing children, no matter what?

Now, we can blame Hitler, just like the prison guards blamed Hitler, its just as pathetic. Those to blame are held much closer to the chest.
Crimes of wartime hysteria and ethnically-based intolerance. Conceded. How this makes the Allies and the Axis moral equivalents has been the constant bone of contention throughout this thread. One of the ways to do that is to keep making argument after argument that Hitler was not really so bad as he's made out, another way would be to argue that the Germans in general were so little in the know about Nazi ideology and tactical/strategic actions that they can't be held responsible in general.

Bopa, when you have stories of several million ethnic Germans being rounded up just because they were ethnic Germans, and put into industrial ovens or gas chambers in a concerted effort by the Allied leadership, you will have my complete agreement that there was moral equivalence or that the sides were both so much into the dark gray that it's pointless to chastise the Nazi side of the conflict. What I don't understand is your rather obtuse stubbornness in not accepting the multiple concessions from several of us that "yes, what happened to evicted/harassed/persecuted ethnic Germans wasn't right" as not good enough, and keep railing and railing on this one point in a war where people were being incinerated in ovens and nuclear blasts and metropolis firebombing air raids. What are you looking for, exactly? If you think this one point completely tosses the "moral balance of the war" you won't get that out of me or most of the people here most likely. *Shrug*