Last edited by Fragony; 11-05-2008 at 08:27.
Your mind is pretty predecided on this one Fragony, it comes up very frequently. If you feel the problem is Islam itself, go out and try to get rid of it. I wish you luck. I will be back here in the practical world.
Koga no Goshi
I give my Nihon Maru to TosaInu in tribute.
Those living in the practical world understand that there are differences between cultures, there must be two reality's, one where a 13 year old girl is stoned to death, and disneyland. You have a great time trying to find excuses for it, horrible way to die by the way.
Disgusting savages.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
The al-Shabab Militia is a hardline extremist group ("Jihadists"). They are regarded as a terrorist organistion by the US. They're not really very good examples of Muslims, but very good examples of war criminals.
“The majestic equality of the laws prohibits the rich and the poor alike from sleeping under bridges, begging in the streets and stealing bread.” - Anatole France
"The law is like a spider’s web. The small are caught, and the great tear it up.” - Anacharsis
I'm not trying to "find excuses" for anything. You're the one constantly on this soapbox about multiculturalism and Muslim faith, usually blaming the wrong things and condemning things no one has the power to go out and change, so what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
Go tell some extremists that their faith is what's wrong with them-- see how far that gets you. Then go and tell the moderates and normal majority who don't go around stoning people or cutting off heads the same thing -- and see how far it gets you.
Talking about women's rights, social justice, social progress, civil rights, these things are all much more on the right track, which we can work on with other countries, and none of them "require" forcing millions upon millions of people to somehow voluntarily give up the Muslim faith, which is never going to happen anyway. So when you get up and do that it either sounds like idle complaining or else finding a justification for what would otherwise be called racist stereotyping. It actually strikes me as a bit of both.
Very true and not a shock. At all. The same people who bent over backwards to separate out Germans in general from the Holocaust or Nazi ideology paint Muslims with a completely uniform brush.OH MY GOD!!!!
The exact same people who were defending the german people are now generalising all muslims!!
Koga no Goshi
I give my Nihon Maru to TosaInu in tribute.
The funny side of all that is that those people that condemn the germans are always the first to defend terrorists, suddenly there is such a thing as a situation, that forces people to act in a certain way instead of acting out of blind hate. These people are always the first to call someone a hypocrite.
It amazes me how your mind seems to be mentally blocking the simple, repeated and explained fact that I never said 'all'. It's right there, in words, you can read, should be simple even for those who lost half their brain to leftist assumptions.
So all Muslims are terrorists now? Alright, then all Germans are Nazis and should have been hung to the very last man, woman and child.
I never defended a terrorist, and I never mass condemned all Germans. So your delusion about me holding a double standard here is simply that.
Koga no Goshi
I give my Nihon Maru to TosaInu in tribute.
Maybe you should've done a better job of a assimilating them. This all comes down to power not religion. The power players in these countries or groups use islam as a vechile to keep the population scared wether it be in Holland or Somalia. The Koran is no more dangers than the bible.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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