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    I'm willing to give this whole left of center approach a chance.

    By this do you mean you could be moving your political stance if results go well, or conservative at heart willing to go along with this until the conservative movement in your country changes ?

    jus' curious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly View Post
    I'm willing to give this whole left of center approach a chance.

    By this do you mean you could be moving your political stance if results go well, or conservative at heart willing to go along with this until the conservative movement in your country changes ?

    jus' curious...
    I am a small "c" conservative. Fiscally conservative. Non-interventionist on foreign policy, socially non-interventionist as well.

    Right now, I am saying that I'm willing to be a team player and work like a dog with an idea in mind that I didn't agree with. Should that idea prove itself to be true, yes I will adopt it. I don't believe in turning poor people out to the cold. I believe that relying on government in the first place is a terrible place to be, but I am open to the possibility in that I am wrong in this.
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    Here's some more of what's next:

    Reid looking to remove Lieberman as committee head
    Democrats in the past had tolerated Lieberman's political straddling because he held their slim 51-49 majority in his hands. Now that Democrats have strengthened their hold in the Senate to at least 55 seats as a result of Tuesday's election, Lieberman no longer is vital to their majority control.
    They may have thrown him out of the party, but they didn't mind letting Lieberman caucus with them. But now, with a solid senate majority, it sounds like they want to completely throw him overboard.

    I'm sure if you're a good partisan Democrat, you're pleased to see this happen. However, those who were expecting a new bipartisan tone in congress may be disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    They may have thrown him out of the party, but they didn't mind letting Lieberman caucus with them. But now, with a solid senate majority, it sounds like they want to completely throw him overboard.
    Good riddance...
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    I'm sure if you're a good partisan Democrat, you're pleased to see this happen. However, those who were expecting a new bipartisan tone in congress may be disappointed.
    ...you caught me...
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    I would caution my fellow conservatives on reaching across the aile. "Bipartison" to democrats simply means to agree to what they want. So, I plan on giving BHO the exact same respect and support that so many on the Left gave George Bush during his presidency...

    Oh and one more thing, that's complete history revision about everyone being behind Bush after 911. So cut the bull. It was not even an hour after the towers collapsed before he was being criticised for flying aound in Air Force One and not a day before people were on him about not freaking out in front of the school kids when he first heard of the attacks. The Jedi mind trick that Obama has played on all you fools won't work on me. I remember, and untill Mr Hussien sends his civilian security force to gather me up to go to a reeducation camp, I will remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    Oh and one more thing, that's complete history revision about everyone being behind Bush after 911. So cut the bull.
    Bush's job approval:


    Notice how the Democrats are in the mid-80s approval ratings right after 9/11. I would call say that means they were right behind him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    Oh and one more thing, that's complete history revision about everyone being behind Bush after 911. So cut the bull. It was not even an hour after the towers collapsed before he was being criticised for flying aound in Air Force One and not a day before people were on him about not freaking out in front of the school kids when he first heard of the attacks. The Jedi mind trick that Obama has played on all you fools won't work on me. I remember, and untill Mr Hussien sends his civilian security force to gather me up to go to a reeducation camp, I will remember.
    Super "liberals" like Peter Jennings were even starting to comment on why the President hadn't made an appearance to address the American people yet.

    At any rate, you're just making things up if you think Dems were some fifth column deadset against Bush and refusing to cooperate with him even after 9/11. Even I was behind Bush after 9/11. And he had no trouble getting virtually anything he wanted passed in Congress for what, two years minimum after 9/11. So you, good sir, are engaging in the revisionism. The idea that Dems never gave Bush any credence whatsoever, at any time, out of sheer irrational personal dislike, is a characterization much more accurately applied to how conservatives are already reacting to Obama.
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    Well, all I can say to you all is that life is just too damn short to get all bunged up over politics. The sun will rise tomorrow, life will lurch along in it's usual unpredictable up & down way. So stop worrying/moaning/primal screaming about "things" because "things" just aren't that important...the people in your life are what's important. Think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    I would caution my fellow conservatives on reaching across the aile. "Bipartison" to democrats simply means to agree to what they want. So, I plan on giving BHO the exact same respect and support that so many on the Left gave George Bush during his presidency...

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    Oh man.

    After the last 8 years, you have the nerve to say this? Seriously? This is what you guys say the half of the time that you aren't complaining about why the Dems didn't overturn all the bad Bush legislation since they took Congress? Sounds just like how half the time you heard Reverend Wright, and the other half you heard Obama was a Muslim.

    As far as obstructionism or refusing to cooperate goes, nothing the Dems have done or are likely to do bears out the idea that they are merely the mirror image of what the Bush Admin looked like when it had a Republican majority. Not by a LONG shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi View Post
    Oh man.

    After the last 8 years, you have the nerve to say this? Seriously? This is what you guys say the half of the time that you aren't complaining about why the Dems didn't overturn all the bad Bush legislation since they took Congress? Sounds just like how half the time you heard Reverend Wright, and the other half you heard Obama was a Muslim.
    This is slightly off topic but I feel it is needed for me to understand the politics of your nation, now you said "You guys" and you often say "us" and "we", refering to DevDave and the Republicans, your person and the Democrats, respectively.

    Is this how most Americans approach politics, with this kind of sincere sense of personal affiliation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar View Post
    This is slightly off topic but I feel it is needed for me to understand the politics of your nation, now you said "You guys" and you often say "us" and "we", refering to DevDave and the Republicans, your person and the Democrats, respectively.

    Is this how most Americans approach politics, with this kind of sincere sense of personal affiliation?
    In a word, yes. Although lies in general tend to annoy me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar View Post
    This is slightly off topic but I feel it is needed for me to understand the politics of your nation, now you said "You guys" and you often say "us" and "we", refering to DevDave and the Republicans, your person and the Democrats, respectively.

    Is this how most Americans approach politics, with this kind of sincere sense of personal affiliation?
    He's just making Dave's point for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar View Post
    This is slightly off topic but I feel it is needed for me to understand the politics of your nation, now you said "You guys" and you often say "us" and "we", refering to DevDave and the Republicans, your person and the Democrats, respectively.

    Is this how most Americans approach politics, with this kind of sincere sense of personal affiliation?
    In general, Americans embrace their political affiliations more personally than do Europeans or Asians from what I can tell. I sense the most ardent Labor supporter would call them a bunch of , but at least they're reasonable , or less unreasonable . Not so in the U.S. Which is odd, as the U.S. elects individuals and Europe elects parties. (For these purposes, I'm lumping Oceania w/ Europe). I honestly don't know which way the way Canadians tend to go on this, probably somewhere in the middle.

    But your point is valid. DevDave had less than nothing to do with Bush administration policies for the past years, and Koga will have equally little to do with Obama's policies. It's akin to the way a Real Madrid fan would refer to you guys when talking to a Barcelona fan, even though neither of them is on either team.
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