Brainwashing? Christianity seems to be taking weird steps, here at least.

[pevergreen]

I attend, if you did not realise/care () a Lutheran School, as I have for my schooling life (For the next day, last day of school tomorrow!). However, I am agnostic, but I still sit and respect the religion, try to make the best of the good moral lessons that are taught. But lately, there has been a baptist surge in the group of friends at school. I don't have any strong feeling about it one way or the other, but when this youth group started inviting other christians in, then telling them their demoninations were wrong (speicifc incident, daughter of a Chaplain and a Pastor) that her boyfriend was evil, as he did not believe in christ (He's swinging between Aethiest and Agnostic) and they questioned her how she could handle that, it began to annoy me slightly. Then when the "alpha" female (a christian for only the past few months) went to her boyfriend of over a year and said she couldn't choose between him and god, he made the choice for her and left. That annoyed me more, but the sheer stupidity of some of the stuff there...I decided to investigate slightly. I started talking with the female in question, lying outragously. She, however, ate it up and today gave me a list of bible verses I should read and think about. The conversation from last night is in the spoiler (Warning: 6 pages in word)

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Nick
we can talk here! its like msn
but without the program
8:25pmSuzanna
mmkay
but just letting you know, I can't stay long
8:26pmNick
ah ok, thats fine :p
8:28pmSuzanna
so what's been going on with you/
?*
8:28pmNick
nothing much really
8:29pmSuzanna
you know God offers a solution to the blackness
8:29pmNick
the bible...has always been there
a lot of parts give me comfort
but i just have trouble. the schools ive been too...all lutheran..it just never clicked
neither did my grandpa's catholic funeral
but the music. and the messages fit
i just...its like theres a missing piece to the puzzle. and i cant find it.
8:30pmSuzanna
what bit don't you understand?
or what bit is missing
8:31pmNick
i dont know whats missing
but theres that god complex thing
if he is omnopotent, why hasnt he wiped out non believers. why does he let cruelty into the world
and things that are just wrong.
child molesters...terrorists... gay people.
i dont admit it to people
gays are just...wrong
lol. we were asked to give our opinion on gay marriage
and if it should be legal or not
in drama
i couldnt answer
because the others wouldnt understand
everyone paid me out
because i refused to put myself on the scale
where everyone else was
at the "allow" end
and i wanted to go to the "NO OFF" section
8:34pmSuzanna
gay people themselves are not wrong - they are still God's creation just like you or I. but they're actions are very, very wrong. they're actions are evil and should not be condoned in anyway.
8:35pmNick
so...if i know someone thats gay...
8:35pmSuzanna
God speaks about it many times in the Bible - and sexual immorality, especially between two men or two women, is one of the worst sins.
you should love them as a person, but do not let yourself be influenced by their sinful ways. pray for them - ask God to show them the truth of their actions
8:37pmNick
mmm you're right.
but i dont want to keep you, do you need to go?
8:37pmSuzanna
I can stay a bit longer
8:38pmNick
ok. that would be nice, could you answer a question thats been plauging me?
8:39pmSuzanna
ask me, but I can't promise an answer
8:39pmNick
ok
what about thoughts of 'that' nature.
and what about kissing and stuff outside of a relationship? is that moral?
8:40pmSuzanna
hmm, that's a hard question, but it's an important one
God's pretty clear about one thing in the Bible - sex should be within marriage. but as for other things, like kissing/touching, he doesn't make direct reference to it
8:40pmNick
so thinking about doing something like that with a nice girl is ok?
and possibly doing it?
8:41pmSuzanna
The Bible says "everyone who looks at a women with lustful intent has already commited adultery with her in his heart."
so basically, if the girl is not yours, i.e. you're not married to her, you shouldn't be lusting after her.
8:41pmNick
hmm
8:42pmSuzanna
respect her all you will, be friends with her for sure, but don't lust after her
especially if she's with another guy. coz that's lust and covetousness
8:42pmNick
so, to be rightful, it must be a relationship before anything happens?
8:43pmSuzanna
its complicated.
even if you were in a relationship with a girl
she might not be the one you plan on spending the rest of your life with
in that case, she's probably not the girl that God has planned for you
therefore she is planned for another guy
8:44pmNick
that makes sense.
8:44pmSuzanna
so anything you do with her, is a part of her that she gives to you, and not to the guy that she is meant to be with
and the same goes for you: everything you give to her, is something less of yourself you can give to the woman you marry.
but the great thing is, nothing is impossible for God
8:45pmNick
so, we will always end up with the right person?
8:45pmSuzanna
only if you listen to God
coz God has a plan for you, but unless you listen to him, you might follow your own sinful desires.
8:46pmNick
how do i hear him?
8:46pmSuzanna
you pray to him. you read his word. you listen to his teachings
you talk to other Christians
but mostly you pray. ask him to give you wisdom.
8:47pmNick
what about things that i've done in the past.
should i just pray for forgiveness?
8:47pmSuzanna
well there's a few steps involved.
firstly, you have to acknowledge that you have sinned.
then you have to repent.
that doesn't just mean saying sorry
it's means saying sorry, and then turning away from your sin and towards righteousness.
you need to accept Jesus into your life, as your Saviour
8:49pmNick
seems like righteousness isnt easy to attain.
8:49pmSuzanna
that is very true
because we as humans are sinful
but God is perfect
and all powerful
and he can do anything
so if you ask for his strength
he will strengthen you and help you lead a righteous life
but first you must accept Jesus into your life: Romans 10:9 "because if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
saved meaning not only eternal life, but also forgiveness for your sins
8:51pmNick
something that i would very much like.
alright, thank you so much for this, but two more questions, if i may
8:51pmSuzanna
sure
go ahead
8:51pmNick
did you ever have lustful intent with ****(Her boyfriend)?
and, is there a point to a relationship if its not the person you will marry? and what happens if you are too ignorant to read the signs?
im worried about that suzanna. i dont want to miss the signs.
8:53pmSuzanna
Nick, God wants your happiness.
he's not gonna let you marry the wrong girl without putting up a fight
look, do you want to have a chat at school tomorrow? there are a couple of verses in the Bible I'd like to show you
8:54pmNick
that would be great.
8:54pmSuzanna
awesome :D
8:54pmNick
ok, i should go finish off some work
you sleep well suzanna.

I would just like to assure everyone, that I, Nick, do not agree with any of the views that I "have" in this conversation.

I am going to attempt to find out more by attending the "bible study group".

My question is this, however, is the outright hostility they show towards not only other faiths, but other demoninations, and their overwhelming desire to CONVERT CONVERT CONVERT acceptable in this day and age and is it a true representation of other christian groups throughout the world?

pever.

Edit: Forgot to take the bad language out. Sorry for anyone who read and was offended. Thanks for covering Banquo. silly pever.