I'd like everyone to know that I haven't gotten a single argument from any media source. Frankly this issue is taboo in the mainstream media, and no one, not even the liberals and democrats in power, are really discussing these issues. I note that you didn't bother refuting anything I said, even after I responded to your viewpoint.

I'll also note that some of the "long-winded" arguments against gay marriage have not been characterized as such by myself. It seems clear that instead of refuting, you've willingly conceded the entire argument. No hard feelings though.