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    This has worked thus far, 70% of time. I am hopeful it will change in ETW, but we will see. I give MTW 2 credit, because the enemy finally countered charge, but still CTRL A pretty will did the trick. Hopefully this time with formations, battle lines, and entrenched positions, this will not be the case. Then again seeing is believing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polemists View Post
    CTRL-A

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    This has worked thus far, 70% of time. I am hopeful it will change in ETW, but we will see. I give MTW 2 credit, because the enemy finally countered charge, but still CTRL A pretty will did the trick. Hopefully this time with formations, battle lines, and entrenched positions, this will not be the case. Then again seeing is believing.


    LOL, so true. I desperately hope we have seen the end of that.

    I hope that we will need to time our change from exchanging volleys to bayonet charges carefully. Same with Cavalry charges. I think timing will be the key as to whether the battles are interesting and challenging.
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    I know Russian tactics favor bayonets over bullets. The general idea is to minimize the time spent engaged in musket duels, substituting artillery fire to soften up the enemy prior to a musket charge.
    Basically, let your cannons do the ranged work and try to preserve your infantry until they can get into the melee.
    Theoretically, Russia should have some very nice light cavalry in the Cossacks, so make good use of those too. Chasing routers and picking off any infantry that get isolated.

    In general, for all-faction tactics, I like the old 'flank, isolated, surround, destroy' move, which I've gotten pretty good at in NTW.

    The idea is to try to draw off a section of the enemy force, isolate them, surround them with infantry, move your cannons up and give them a whiff of grapeshot if you've got the time.

    Keep the remainder of the main force pinned with your own main force.

    Just repeat until the main force is small enough to annihilate.
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    Here's a good question we should always ask ourselves while playing Empires:

    "What would Napoleon do?"

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    What would be better is to travel in time and let Nap beta test the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post
    Here's a good question we should always ask ourselves while playing Empires:

    "What would Napoleon do?"
    Too bad the game will be pretty much over by the time he shows up :P
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    Not if I can help it. He'll be the emperor of a new Roman empire.

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    Too bad the game will be pretty much over by the time he shows up
    I wouldn't panic, I'd be shocked if he wasn't in the expansion considering how much CA and Sega keep mentioning him.

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    Even the official website has a space that says Expansion which is grayed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polemists View Post
    CTRL-A

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    This has worked thus far, 70% of time. I am hopeful it will change in ETW, but we will see. I give MTW 2 credit, because the enemy finally countered charge, but still CTRL A pretty will did the trick. Hopefully this time with formations, battle lines, and entrenched positions, this will not be the case. Then again seeing is believing.
    Oh well I just watched a video from CA

    They said

    "Don't play E:TW as you played any previous TW game, you will simply loose"


    And as we nearly don't have any info regarding the units etc. it'll be hard to figure out tactics... :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookybear
    And as we nearly don't have any info regarding the units etc. it'll be hard to figure out tactics... :P
    Well, we could study history and use tactics that were popular during this era. But I'm too lazy...

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    "Don't play E:TW as you played any previous TW game, you will simply loose"
    Believe it when I see it, keep in mind these are the same people who said don't play MTW2 the way you played RTW or you will lose. Which while playing like rome may have slightly hindred you it was hardly DRASTIC. Yes the AI used ranged weapons more, and yes the AI counter charged, but you could still use the basic rush all to win most battles.

    I've seen the videos, despite the few screenshots of volleyfire exchanges, the videos have alot of infantry charging, calvary charging, duels, etc. I am all for infantry charging....tactically. I just think there should be some factions (England, France, maybe Prussia) who would win more through volley fire exchanges and some factions who it would make sense to do the horde charge thing (Russia, etc)

    Since you can garrison inside buildings, and put up your own fortifications, I assume these two aspects will alleviate the old charge mentality.

    That said, the longbowmen of mtw2 had spikes, and they never seemed that useful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polemists View Post
    Believe it when I see it, keep in mind these are the same people who said don't play MTW2 the way you played RTW or you will lose. Which while playing like rome may have slightly hindred you it was hardly DRASTIC. Yes the AI used ranged weapons more, and yes the AI counter charged, but you could still use the basic rush all to win most battles.

    I've seen the videos, despite the few screenshots of volleyfire exchanges, the videos have alot of infantry charging, calvary charging, duels, etc. I am all for infantry charging....tactically. I just think there should be some factions (England, France, maybe Prussia) who would win more through volley fire exchanges and some factions who it would make sense to do the horde charge thing (Russia, etc)

    Since you can garrison inside buildings, and put up your own fortifications, I assume these two aspects will alleviate the old charge mentality.

    That said, the longbowmen of mtw2 had spikes, and they never seemed that useful
    Spikes and longbows were useful in the right situations(such as stuck in front of a city gate.)

    I think the reasons the videos are melee heavy is because melee combat makes for more dramatic, dynamic video. It might also be to soothe all of the fans who are up in arms about the period being nothing but 'men in lines shooting till one side falls down'.


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    My tactics will be simple: keep the enemy busy with infantry, move some infantry and artillery to concentrate fire to a certain spot, charge the weakened units with heavy cavalry. It's more or less the same I use in EB because it's imho the way combat is fought since the invention of war. The niceties must be judged after release.

    @ Polemists: Austria/Hungary had the best light cavalry in Europe imho. (Maybe together with Russia, I cannot appraise.) The Prussians suffered very much from it in a war of attrition and tried to create a similar force of it's own. And in the 1. Silesian War Austrian heavy cavalry was also clearly better than their Prussian counterparts.
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    I am guessing that I will play the Road To Independence first. With that, in taking on the British I want to try about a three to one mix of Rifle Militia and Regular Line Infantry with Bayonets.

    I want to see how much skirmishing riflemen can whittle down the opposition before engaging them with the regulars. Of course I might have some dragoons and a few cannon in the mix but that is the basic tactical experiment that I want to try.


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