Results 1 to 30 of 72

Thread: Cruvamendica (Goidilic Cavalry) Description Incorrect

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    EB Nitpicker Member oudysseos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Dublin, Ireland
    Posts
    3,182

    Default Re: Cruvamendica (Goidilic Cavalry) Description Incorrect

    Lobf, Celtic Punk, cut it out and grow up. You can disagree with each other and still be polite. CP, to be fair, you are just spouting opinions and assertions. Cite some sources. I actually live in Ireland and if I saw archaeological evidence of chariots I wouldn't dismiss it just 'cos it 'doesn't make sense'. Lobf, there's no need to be such a gowk.

    I mean it kids. I'll turn this car right around.
    οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
    Even as are the generations of leaves, such are the lives of men.
    Glaucus, son of Hippolochus, Illiad, 6.146



  2. #2
    Vicious Celt Warlord Member Celtic_Punk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    In your kitchen, raiding your fridge!
    Posts
    1,575

    Default Re: Cruvamendica (Goidilic Cavalry) Description Incorrect

    I've said my piece and I think I've made my point. And more than one person has agreed with me. I think I've made my mark on the world here. G'day to you sir!


    ... Still if you wanna debate.. ill face you in... Pankration!!!!!
    'Who Dares WINS!' - SAS
    "The republic stands for truth and honour. For all that is noblest in our race. By truth and honour, principle and sacrifice alone will Ireland be free."-Liam Mellows


    Who knows? If it's a enough day we may all end up Generals!"

  3. #3
    EB annoying hornet Member bovi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    11,796

    Default Re: Cruvamendica (Goidilic Cavalry) Description Incorrect

    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Punk View Post
    ... Still if you wanna debate.. ill face you in... Pankration!!!!!
    Way to make people take you seriously .

    Having problems getting EB2 to run? Try these solutions.
    ================
    I do NOT answer PM requests for help with EB. Ask in a new help thread in the tech help forum.
    ================
    I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image. - Stephen Hawking

  4. #4
    Vicious Celt Warlord Member Celtic_Punk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    In your kitchen, raiding your fridge!
    Posts
    1,575

    Default Re: Cruvamendica (Goidilic Cavalry) Description Incorrect

    tryin to lighten the mood here. which is desperately needs. I think this issue has been addressed however. It should be locked to avoid futher frustrations and whathave you's
    'Who Dares WINS!' - SAS
    "The republic stands for truth and honour. For all that is noblest in our race. By truth and honour, principle and sacrifice alone will Ireland be free."-Liam Mellows


    Who knows? If it's a enough day we may all end up Generals!"

  5. #5
    EB Nitpicker Member oudysseos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Dublin, Ireland
    Posts
    3,182

    Default Re: Cruvamendica (Goidilic Cavalry) Description Incorrect

    By the way, CP, Ireland has, according to Wikipedia, 12k square kilometers of bog, a great deal of which however is man-made, either from forest clearances dating back to the bronze age or more recent attempts by Bord na Mona (not including my back yard which is a big fecking swamp). The island is ca. 85k square kilometers, which makes me guesstimate that in the EB period as much as 10 percent of the land may have been bog. This doesn't seem to preclude chariot combat on the face of it, no matter what might make sense to you or me. And indeed Riastradh was right to an extent: there are numerous literary references to chariots in Ireland, even if one leaves out the Tain. Also there are some carved reliefs, mostly on crosses, such as Clonmacnoise and the Ahenny High Cross. So I don't think that you can dismiss Irish chariots so quickly. Of course, all of the evidence for Irish chariots comes from a much later period than EB.


    Róda, cis lir-side? n i, a .u. .i. slighi 7 ród 7 lamraite 7 tograide 7 bothar. caide int slige? n i, discuet da carput sech in aile, doronad fri imairecc da carpat .i. carpat rig 7 carrpat espuic ara ndichet cechtar nai sech araile. Ród: docuet carpat 7 da oeneoch de imbi, doronad fri echraite mendoto a medon (CIH iii 893. 22-25).

    [Roads, how many are there? Not hard: five, that is the highway, the road, the byroad, the winding road and the cow path. What is a highway? Not hard: two chariots can pass on it. It is made for the meeting of two chariots, that is the chariot of a king and the chariot of a bishop, that they can pass by each other. Road: a chariot and two riders can pass on it. It is made for riding on a road within a territory.]

    BLA CARBAT AENACH .i. Slan donti beires in carbat isin naenach; slan do ce bristir in carbat isinn ænach 7 narabg tre borblachas, 7 mad ed on is fiach fo aicned a fatha air; 7 slan d'fir in carbait ce foglaid in carbat risium 7 na raib fis crine na etallais na haicbeile, 7 da raib is fiach fa aicned a fatha air (CIH i 283.28).

    [Exceptions regarding chariots at yearly gatherings. This is, who brings a chariot to a gathering is exempt from compensation. He is exempt from paying compensation even if the chariot is broken at the gathering, provided the damage is not due to unreasonable use of force. If this is the case, he is liable to the full compensation. The owner of the chariot is also exempt from compensation if the chariot damages anyone, provided he had no knowledge of it being in bad repair, its looseness or its dangerousness. If he had knowledge of it, he has to pay compensation according to the damage inflicted.]
    Facts are nice.

    Oh, and I'm wondering, Riastradh- in this thread you characterize the Irish as famous for their chariots and in the next paragraph say that the Celts were great chariot-makers. But in another thread you claim that the Irish had nothing to do with Celts. WTF?
    Last edited by oudysseos; 12-04-2008 at 17:40.
    οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
    Even as are the generations of leaves, such are the lives of men.
    Glaucus, son of Hippolochus, Illiad, 6.146



  6. #6
    EB annoying hornet Member bovi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    11,796

    Default Re: Cruvamendica (Goidilic Cavalry) Description Incorrect

    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Punk View Post
    I think this issue has been addressed however. It should be locked to avoid futher frustrations and whathave you's
    I think we have yet to hear back from the original poster. Anyway, thank you for the vote of confidence by accepting EB's word as law for some reason, but perhaps jumping in the face of newcomers isn't the right way to get input to our project. This query has none of the antagonism that certain others have had, and it brings arguments supported by stories. I'm just not certain what exactly is the objective yet.
    Last edited by bovi; 12-04-2008 at 19:05.

    Having problems getting EB2 to run? Try these solutions.
    ================
    I do NOT answer PM requests for help with EB. Ask in a new help thread in the tech help forum.
    ================
    I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image. - Stephen Hawking

  7. #7
    Jesus Member lobf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Nazareth
    Posts
    531

    Default Re: Cruvamendica (Goidilic Cavalry) Description Incorrect

    Quote Originally Posted by oudysseos View Post
    Lobf, Celtic Punk, cut it out and grow up. You can disagree with each other and still be polite. CP, to be fair, you are just spouting opinions and assertions. Cite some sources. I actually live in Ireland and if I saw archaeological evidence of chariots I wouldn't dismiss it just 'cos it 'doesn't make sense'. Lobf, there's no need to be such a gowk.

    I mean it kids. I'll turn this car right around.
    That's how I argue when I'm drunk at 3 a.m. after fighting with my girlfriend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Punk View Post
    I've said my piece and I think I've made my point. And more than one person has agreed with me. I think I've made my mark on the world here. G'day to you sir!


    ... Still if you wanna debate.. ill face you in... Pankration!!!!!

    Seriously, dude? More than one person has agreed with you? How is that relevant to the veracity of your statements? I'm sure I could get someone here to agree that the Jooz run the banks, but that doesn't make it right.

    Just stop pretending to know things that you can only guess.

  8. #8
    master of the wierd people Member Ibrahim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Who cares
    Posts
    6,195

    Default Re: Cruvamendica (Goidilic Cavalry) Description Incorrect

    Quote Originally Posted by lobf View Post
    That's how I argue when I'm drunk at 3 a.m. after fighting with my girlfriend.
    no excuse

    @CP: manners man. jumping at junior members is no way of acting here. just my 2cents.

    in any event, why hasn't the OP of this answered to the questions directed at him in particular? Riastradh here only posted twice, and then just stopped. something is wrong here.
    I was once alive, but then a girl came and took out my ticker.

    my 4 year old modding project--nearing completion: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=219506 (if you wanna help, join me).

    tired of ridiculous trouble with walking animations? then you need my brand newmotion capture for the common man!

    "We have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that if we put the belonging to, in the I don't know what, all gas lines will explode " -alBernameg

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO