Crisis in Canada

[CountArach]

Paying for the elections and paying for the politicians to win them are two entirely different things. You should be forced to do the first, but not the second.

The parties are running to give the people a choice beyond two polarising options - they need these funds.

Harper did curb the influence of business, unions, and other special interest groups - I've been saying that for how many posts?

Did I ever disagree with you...? I'm simply stating this is the best way to do it.

Then perhaps the left wing parties should appeal to their voter base for funds? I mean, you have voters who want to redistribute wealth, so ask for them to redistribute a little more your way.

You know damn well that isn't possible.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

The parties are running to give the people a choice beyond two polarising options - they need these funds.

The two polarising options are getting the most money out of this deal.

You know damn well that isn't possible.

Why? Because their voters aren't sold enough on their policy? Because they're not willing enough to give? If the Conservatives can get private donations from such a wide support base, maybe the NDP should give it a try as well. Surely they could raise quite a few dollars in Toronto.

[CountArach]

Why? Because their voters aren't sold enough on their policy? Because they're not willing enough to give? If the Conservatives can get private donations from such a wide support base, maybe the NDP should give it a try as well. Surely they could raise quite a few dollars in Toronto.

I don't know the specific circumstances but the fact is that the left-wing parties are more likely to rely ont eh working class, who haven't got the money to donate to political parties and campaigns.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I don't know the specific circumstances but the fact is that the left-wing parties are more likely to rely ont eh working class, who haven't got the money to donate to political parties and campaigns.

That doesn't explain why the Conservatives have a very wide donation base, including working class. Some of the poorest areas of rural Ontario vote overwhelmingly Conservative, as well as some of the richest areas of Alberta. That's what you call a large support base.

[CountArach]

That doesn't explain why the Conservatives have a very wide donation base, including working class. Some of the poorest areas of rural Ontario vote overwhelmingly Conservative, as well as some of the richest areas of Alberta. That's what you call a large support base.

Just because they vote for them does not mean they donate to them.

[Xiahou]

I don't know the specific circumstances but the fact is that the left-wing parties are more likely to rely ont eh working class, who haven't got the money to donate to political parties and campaigns.

Tell that to Obama. He raised 3/4 of a billion dollars during a recession.

If people like what youre selling, they'll donate.

[CountArach]

Tell that to Obama. He raised 3/4 of a billion dollars during a recession.

Obama is not left-wing.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Obama is not left-wing.

Obama is at least centre-left.

[CountArach]

Obama is at least centre-left.

At the very most. I would say he is still closer to the centre, but I think a case can be made for centre-left. The point is that he is not one who speaks for the working class - he is something more of a petit bourgeoisie type.