Fillet Royale- Large Mafia game [Concluded]

[Beefy187]

Hey I hope no one ELSE votes or I will try everything in my power to get you lynched.....no voting.......
Tie=we save one townie for next time when we have more evidence

Is that what everyone wants? Shout I do the write up?

Ill wait for one more hour

[Thermal]

unvote
vote: quintus
through CA's influence naturally

[CountArach]

Is that what everyone wants? Shout I do the write up?

Ill wait for one more hour

Stick to your timetable and do what you think is best.

@ Aries - its a good choice. Not lynching is a wasted round for the town and a free kill for the mafia.

[White_eyes:D]

unvote
vote: quintus
through CA's influence naturally

Aries must be Mafia......but then again it could have been self-preservation....but still FoS on you....

[Yoyoma1910]

Aries must be Mafia......but then again it could have been self-preservation....but still FoS on you....

Come on White Eyes, no reason to go leering at other people. Maybe he just wants to spend more time playing in these games with you.

[White_eyes:D]

Come on White Eyes, no reason to go leering at other people. Maybe he just wants to spend more time playing in these games with you.

wanna bet?.....If he kills me I owe you 100 votes.....if he kills you I owe you 100 votes...deal?

[Yoyoma1910]

wanna bet?.....If he kills me I owe you 100 votes.....if he kills you I owe you 100 votes...deal?

Je ne comprends pas?


What votes? I don't get it.

[Reenk Roink]

Not lynching is a wasted round for the town and a free kill for the mafia.

In the general case it's not. Most rounds will naturally end up with an innocent being lynched. This rate will be even higher in the first couple of rounds where nobody knows anything. Not lynching in fact makes the Mafia kill have to kill one more to reach their goal.

On top of adding to the Mafia's work, a no lynch round doesn't even have to be wasteful. There can be plenty of discussion still. One thing that is true is that without the threat of lynching, people will be less likely to talk more and expose clues. Still, I think it's a good strategy, especially early game.

[White_eyes:D]

In the general case it's not. Most rounds will naturally end up with an innocent being lynched. This rate will be even higher in the first couple of rounds where nobody knows anything. Not lynching in fact makes the Mafia kill have to kill one more to reach their goal.

On top of adding to the Mafia's work, a no lynch round doesn't even have to be wasteful. There can be plenty of discussion still. One thing that is true is that without the threat of lynching, people will be less likely to talk more and expose clues. Still, I think it's a good strategy, especially early game.

Why didn't you tie it up then?

[Quintus.JC]

Unvote: Tevash
Vote: Aries

Self-preservation, you know.

[Andres]

Unvote: Tevash
Vote: Quintus

Voting to get yourself out of a tie is a clear attempt at:
1) Stifling any possible debate
2) Saving your own skin - townies should be willing to die.

I urge others to join me in voting out Quintus.

Saving your own skin is a sensible action for a townie. As a townie, you play for the town team.

Getting lynched as a townie, is not in the interest of your team ergo townies should not be willing to die.

Unvote : Qunitus
Vote : CountArach

[boudica]

As a quick tally (this should defo be double-checked!)

Aries: 5 (Chaotix, TevashSzat, Seireikhaan,White_eyes, Quintus)
Quintus: 4 (Glyphz, ATPG, CA, Aries)
TevashSzat: 1 (Yoyoma,)
Chaotix: 1 (Rythmic)
White_Eyes: 1 (YLC,)
Count Arach: 1 (Andres)

Abstain: 2 (boudica, Reenk Roink)
No votes:2 ( Bladeceath, Sarathos)

It looks like Andres has untied the vote again and Beefy's hour of judgement has now become 10
Also YLC has said he is quitting the game - does his vote for White_Eyes still stand?

[CountArach]

In the general case it's not. Most rounds will naturally end up with an innocent being lynched. This rate will be even higher in the first couple of rounds where nobody knows anything. Not lynching in fact makes the Mafia kill have to kill one more to reach their goal.

On top of adding to the Mafia's work, a no lynch round doesn't even have to be wasteful. There can be plenty of discussion still. One thing that is true is that without the threat of lynching, people will be less likely to talk more and expose clues. Still, I think it's a good strategy, especially early game.

Yeah I know the arguments against it - I guess this is one of those arguments that the mafia community will keep mulling over for eternity.

Saving your own skin is a sensible action for a townie. As a townie, you play for the town team.

Getting lynched as a townie, is not in the interest of your team ergo townies should not be willing to die.

The Town's advantages lie in its numbers and its ability to soak up kills inflicted upon itself. I believe that if the Town shows that it is unwilling to take the casualties killing itself then the mafia will just be able to hide in it for as long as possible without really contributing anything.

[Andres]

The Town's advantages lie in its numbers and its ability to soak up kills inflicted upon itself. I believe that if the Town shows that it is unwilling to take the casualties killing itself then the mafia will just be able to hide in it for as long as possible without really contributing anything.

Oh, but I was not arguing against lynching. Imo, I think the town has better odds if they lynch a suspect in every day phase, including the first one.

It was your statement "townies should be willing to die" that I disagree with.

Apathic townies don't generate discussion, townies that defend themselves, do.

[Andres]

Unvote: Tevash
Vote: Aries

Self-preservation, you know.

Do you sincerely think Tevashzat is acting suspicious or is self-preservation your only reason to vote him?

Are there other suspects according to you?

[Quintus.JC]

Do you sincerely think Tevashzat is acting suspicious or is self-preservation your only reason to vote him?

Are there other suspects according to you?

Complete self-perservation. No suspects so far.

[White_eyes:D]

Unvote:Aries Vote:abstain.....I hate it when people think lynching the townies is the fastest way to get to the Mafia.....it's the Mafia's FIRST and foremost Tactic.....and it's safest if the town suspects each other as well but since this is the first round no such "we might get the Mafia in a 1 in 17 chance will convince" me here....

[boudica]

Aries: 4 (Chaotix, TevashSzat, Seireikhaan, Quintus)
Quintus: 4 (Glyphz, ATPG, CA, Aries)
TevashSzat: 1 (Yoyoma,)
Chaotix: 1 (Rythmic)
White_Eyes: 1 (YLC,)
Count Arach: 1 (Andres)

Abstain: 3 (boudica, Reenk Roink,White_eyes)
No votes:2 ( Bladeceath, Sarathos)

Tallied up, back to a tie again (plz double-check Beefy)

[Yoyoma1910]

I'm going to change my vote to Bladeceath, because I have a feeling he's just not going to show up in the end.


If he happens to be mafia, the better for it.

unvote:TevashSzat
Vote:Bladeceath

[boudica]

Chest swelling with pride over 'good deed done' I shall tally up again.

Aries: 4 (Chaotix, TevashSzat, Seireikhaan, Quintus)
Quintus: 4 (Glyphz, ATPG, CA, Aries)
Chaotix: 1 (Rythmic)
White_Eyes: 1 (YLC,)
Count Arach: 1 (Andres)
Bladeceath: 1 (Yoyoma)

Abstain: 3 (boudica, Reenk Roink,White_eyes)
No votes:2 ( Bladeceath, Sarathos)

[TevashSzat]

Okay.....this day round is getting pretty long....

Anyways, Beefy posted at 21:04 (for me) that the lynching will be done in one hour.

Aries, at 22:01, just three minutes before the "one" hour, came in and voted for quintus

I know that even townies want to survive past the first round, but voting to get out of a tie just three minutes before the deadline is pretty suspicious to me.....so, FOS: Aries

[Yoyoma1910]

Defiantly a lot of self preservation going on around here...


And that was a pretty scummy move...



Hmmmm....

[Thermal]

i did do it on purpose because



I DON'T WANT TO DIE!


i was suspicious doing that, but your all suspicious voting for me, for no reason and out of the 7 ish games ive played, this would be the fourth im voted out 1st on! at least im showing passion to want to be hear!

[Yoyoma1910]

I didn't vote for you. Does that make you feel better.

[White_eyes:D]

i did do it on purpose because



I DON'T WANT TO DIE!


i was suspicious doing that, but your all suspicious voting for me, for no reason and out of the 7 ish games ive played, this would be the fourth im voted out 1st on! at least im showing passion to want to be hear!

No worry's.....as long as there is a tie you won't die this round

[CountArach]

Beefy - this round has lasted like 3 days, when will it end?

Also, FoS: White_eyes for the sudden change of heart in this post.

[Chaotix]

Well, more like 2 days... but still, it is dragging on. Maybe the original end time was when there was still a tie, and so Beefy added an extra day for a time extension.....?

Also, thanks to Reenk for better articulating my opinion there, although he's still dirty scum cause of Prometheus.

[Beefy187]

Beefy - this round has lasted like 3 days, when will it end?

Also, FoS: White_eyes for the sudden change of heart in this post.

Sorry about that.. Been a little busy in RL. Give me 10 min and it should be done.

Day one summerly

Beef News, bringing you the fastest and most reliable information about the latest news...

"Welcome to Beef News today. We have the live feed from the first meeting of Beefers. Jarred?"

"Yes. The meeting has just finished and the judge has decided that they will not send anyone to jail due to the fact that the members weren't able to make up their mind."

"Who was voted as the suspects?"

"There was four votes for both Mr Aries and Mr Quintus as the top suspects. However there was many other votes on different members."

"Was there any critical leads so far?"

"From what I can see, there was not many leads. Most of the members were keen to keep their friends alive rather then blindly sending someone to jail who could be innocent. One thing however.. Mr YLC from the east valley, decided that the council and the city is full of paranoid peoples and he could no longer bear this city. He seems to have ran off to Australia where his relatives owns a cow farm."

"Very well. This was Jarred Lee from Beef News."



Aries: 4 (Chaotix, TevashSzat, Seireikhaan, Quintus)
Quintus: 4 (Glyphz, ATPG, CA, Aries)
Chaotix: 1 (Rythmic)
White_Eyes: 1 (YLC,)
Count Arach: 1 (Andres)
Bladeceath: 1 (Yoyoma)

Abstain: 3 (boudica, Reenk Roink,White_eyes)
No votes:2 ( Bladeceath, Sarathos)

Alive players 15/16

Glyphz
Andres
Aries
Yoyoma
White_Eyes
Sarathos
Reenk Roink
QJC
Bladeceath
Rythmic
Seireikhaan
Chaotix
ATPG
CA
boudica

Killed 0/16

Lynched (jailed) 0/16

WoGged 1/16
YLC (Retired- day 1)


Night orders please. Lets have some fun

[Beefy187]

Beef News

"This mysterious letter just arrived in our place.. It seems to be a letter for all the murderers..."

Dear Mafiosos,

A little bird told me your names and that one of you are not who you seem to be.

Regards,
Your Friendly Journalist

[White_eyes:D]

Beefy - this round has lasted like 3 days, when will it end?

Also, FoS: White_eyes for the sudden change of heart in this post.

Why? I explained why in the post I don't want townies to die for nothing and a 1 in 17 chance with no evidence is not good enough for me.......FoS:CountArach....A little to eager to kill off townies me thinks....