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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    According to the anarchists. They say the exact same things here in fuzzywuzzytstan, shouldn't be taken seriously just rebels without a cause, I say give them one for all the lives they have destroyed the past days, nice to have your shop burned down by bored rich kids.
    ....According to quite a lot of people.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupt...2.80.932007.29

    51 Lithuania 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.6 4.7 4.8
    51 Jordan 4.7 5.3 5.7 5.3 4.6 4.5
    53 Mauritius 4.7 5.1 4.2 4.1 4.4 4.5
    53 Oman 4.7 5.4 6.3 6.1 6.3
    56 Greece 4.6 4.4 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.2
    57 Namibia 4.5 4.1 4.3 4.1 4.7 5.7
    60 Kuwait 4.3 4.8 4.7 4.6 5.3
    61 Cuba 4.2 3.5 3.8 3.7 4.6
    61 Poland 4.2 3.7 3.4 3.5 3.6 4.0

    Greece are ranked together with such functioning states like Lithunaia, Jordan, Oman, Cuba and Poland. You even find a bunch of dictatorships less corrupt than Greece. That's the corruption index by Transparency International. Are they anarchists too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Greece are ranked together with such functioning states like Lithunaia, Jordan, Oman, Cuba and Poland. You even find a bunch of dictatorships less corrupt than Greece. That's the corruption index by Transparency International. Are they anarchists too?
    What does that have to do with bored rich kids burning stores? If Greece was the least corrupt country the anarchists wouldn't act any different

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    What does that have to do with bored rich kids burning stores? If Greece was the least corrupt country the anarchists wouldn't act any different
    Can you be sure these are "rich kids"?

    How many of the countries higher than Greece have had Anarchists rioting in the streets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Can you be sure these are "rich kids"?
    Anarchists are without exception from well off families, and how else could they find the time to burn shops instead of having to work in one in a country as poor and corrupt as Greece? Clue, university, students, costs money

    How many of the countries higher than Greece have had Anarchists rioting in the streets?

    You have got to be kidding me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Anarchists are without exception from well off families, and how else could they find the time to burn shops instead of having to work in one in a country as poor and corrupt as Greece? Clue, university, students, costs money

    How many of the countries higher than Greece have had Anarchists rioting in the streets?

    You have got to be kidding me
    France experienced something similiar.


    I have mixed feelings about the chaos on the streets, though.
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    So hating the government makes it right to burn private property now?
    So maybe when Fragony gets too many warning points, the moderators should ban HoreTore in protest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Asen View Post
    France experienced something similiar.
    Yeah, they wanted all non-communist teachers fired had an educational misunderstanding
    Last edited by Fragony; 12-12-2008 at 10:11.

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    Ah, well that should keep him warm, good thing we have activists Greek police can be quite brutal

    EDIT: Removed hotlinked picture. BG

    Meanwhile, bored rich kids causing trouble because some people work for a living, or are just lucky enough to be able to hand over half their money so that bored rich kids can live on the government, in the same way they are used to getting money from their parents. If you don't speak dutch it will be hard to recognize the activist background of the unfunded and unbiased independent reporter.

    http://www.spitsnieuws.nl/archives/v..._rijkerds.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    What does that have to do with bored rich kids burning stores? If Greece was the least corrupt country the anarchists wouldn't act any different
    Do you have any proof that these people are rich kids, or are you just making that up, according to the usual anti-intellectual/anti-youth right-winged rethoric ?
    Anarchists are without exception from well off families, and how else could they find the time to burn shops instead of having to work in one in a country as poor and corrupt as Greece? Clue, university, students, costs money
    BS, otherwise, why would people go on strike ? They lose money, time and what not, yet they decide to do it.

    While I despise most of the people who rioted in France a few years ago, it could hardly be said they were rich, anarchists or even leftists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    Do you have any proof that these people are rich kids, or are you just making that up, according to the usual anti-intellectual/anti-youth right-winged rethoric ?
    It is not ironic that it sounds very unintellectual when the left calls the right anti-intellectual?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    It is not ironic that it sounds very unintellectual when the left calls the right anti-intellectual?

    Well, anti-intellectualism has been a defining factor of the Right's discurse since the beginning of the modern era, whether you like it or not. It has since then been succesfully exported to the far-left, but it doesn't change the fact it was first used by the reactionnary right.


    They are students, studying costs money. They can study, so their parents have it. And because they have the time to burn shops, which they wouldn't even consider doing if they were working class kids who know about hard labour, and because they, much unlike people who are motivated by something, and study instead of riot because they want to make something out of their lives, riot, 1+1=2.
    So yeah, you're making that up and don't have anything concrete to back up your claims :-/

    One year at the Uni in France costs 400€, which is roughly equal to 15 days of work for a student. I'd hardly call that hard labour.
    Of course, Greece isn't France, the country is poorer, but the wealth of a country often bears no relevance to the tuition fees one has to pay in said country. For all I know, University could be free in Greece.

    On a sidenote, I'm glad that in some countries, students don't have to work to pay for the university.

    Then, according to your wonderful and flawless reasoning, what about:
    - workers who go on strike ?
    - workers who riot and destroy stuff ?
    I guess they have no clue about the value of money and of hard larbour and just act as spoiled kids

    Notice that I have absolutely no sympathy for the rioters, since I'm pretty sure most of them just want to blow things up for the heck of it (I don't have much sympathy for the greek government as well), but it looks like your attempt to describe them as just upper class people who want to have fun is to say the least, baseless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    Do you have any proof that these people are rich kids, or are you just making that up, according to the usual anti-intellectual/anti-youth right-winged rethoric ?
    They are students, studying costs money. They can study, so their parents have it. And because they have the time to burn shops, which they wouldn't even consider doing if they were working class kids who know about hard labour, and because they, much unlike people who are motivated by something, and study instead of riot because they want to make something out of their lives, riot, 1+1=2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    They are students, studying costs money. They can study, so their parents have it. And because they have the time to burn shops, which they wouldn't even consider doing if they were working class kids who know about hard labour, and because they, much unlike people who are motivated by something, and study instead of riot because they want to make something out of their lives, riot, 1+1=2.
    Exactly. These are at least upper-middle class students attending these Universities who are tearing apart innocent businesses. They really are a bunch of spoiled brats running around like idiots. It is really a shame the Greek police aren't more assertive. The stupid protection they have on campus is a crock and from the investigation so far the killing of the 15 year old boy was a ricochet. This is absurd!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon View Post
    It is really a shame the Greek police aren't more assertive. The stupid protection they have on campus is a crock and from the investigation so far the killing of the 15 year old boy was a ricochet. This is absurd!
    Ya, smack them around the ears good and they will soon remember that pappa is a judge. Just shoot them when police-officers get torched the dye is cast.

    but it looks like your attempt to describe them as just upper class people who want to have fun is to say the least, baseless.

    As I said, anarchists are, without exceptions, from rich family's. Can't think of a revolutionary that wasn't really. Can't think of any anarchist student with a job either, why would they when your pappa is rich. If I am wrong, look around you.

    EDIT: Removed hotlinked picture. BG

    Oh sorry when someone is burned alive it looks like this;



    That is one cooked cop, ouch looks hot

    http://www.spitsnieuws.nl/archives/v...itieburea.html

    ^- Ah, bored rich kids attack the police station.
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    the sequence of pictures is shown here:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pict...in-Greece.html

    one thing i have always admired the french for is the carte blanche they give their riot police when things go sour, and i sincerely hope that the scrote in the first linked picture was taken down a back alley and beaten into a bloody pulp, just like the french riot police were rumoured to do.

    [edit] in other news - greece has run out of tear gas and is appealing for more. give it to them i say. [/edit]
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    [QUOTE=Fragony;2082491]They are students, studying costs money./QUOTE]

    Free education FTW!
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    The only thing free in life is fresh air.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Free education FTW!
    I wouldn't call it free education but I do hope someone is taking notes regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    I wouldn't call it free education but I do hope someone is taking notes regardless.
    Education is free here and a few other countries, which I think is a really good idea, hence the "FTW"
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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