Fillet Royale- Large Mafia game [Concluded]

[Thermal]

I suggest the role blocker blocks either Aries or Reenk Roink. Both are behaving suspicious.

me? suspicious? no just weird really, block me if you want, not that theres anything to block, unless letter writing can be blocked? not i want to letter write anyway

[Thermal]

what is suspicious is the fact your doing so much investigating andres, on other games you never participate this much, i was inclined to participate on where? mafia more and i ended up being mafia, this without people realising it is a new characteristic for andres

in addition he tells us to role block others rather than himself to allow him to use killing powers else where without being blocked,
if you can't see these signs, then your a bit stupid

unvote
vote:andres

[Chaotix]

Yep, I think we should lynch one and then roleblock the other. At the rate townies are being killed, we have to knock out the mafia as quickly as we can!

[White_eyes:D]

Andres....why are you trying so hard to crack this "townie group" I talked about??? Aries as well.....sounds too suspicious....almost like your trying to get something out of me.....and no, none of us are Mafia....IF ANYTHING we were Pro-town, Given the Insane kill rate which town is facing....(Over-powered Mafia much?)

[Chaotix]

I don't think he was suspecting you were mafia, White Eyes, as much as just how you three all knew each other to be innocent. Were you all "Russians", or something? How did this townie group come to be?

[White_eyes:D]

I don't think he was suspecting you were mafia, White Eyes, as much as just how you three all knew each other to be innocent. Were you all "Russians", or something? How did this townie group come to be?

Ask ATPG(but really we were just messing around PMing random people and it kinda came together, like glue and water) But ATPG knows more then I do.....he must have went and done.....something, like leaked information(he might have been a little careless because I so willingly joined him) and now I think the Mafia's are likely working together(as can be seen by high kill rate and the fact that some of the most suspicious Mafias players are gone excluding me of course.....but this also reveals one of the family's are new to this or simply taking revenge for a game I caused trouble in....*cough*YLC*cough*)

[Andres]

Andres....why are you trying so hard to crack this "townie group" I talked about??? Aries as well.....sounds too suspicious....almost like your trying to get something out of me.....and no, none of us are Mafia....IF ANYTHING we were Pro-town, Given the Insane kill rate which town is facing....(Over-powered Mafia much?)

1) several mafia families -> getting killed at night is not a guarantee for being innocent; it's very likely that a mafioso can get killed by a rival mafioso, ergo you are not confirmed innocent;
2) it's very, very coincidental that all three members of a "townie group" get killed on the first night;
3) combine 1) with 2) and I'd like to see somebody back-up your hard to believe-claim.

ATPG is Russian and Russian(s) seem to be pro-town from the N1 write-up, so preferably ATPG confirms or denies your statement.

@Aries : this is my normal/usual playstyle, but I have been busy the last few months, didn't have much time to participate at this level. Check the older games if you want, or ask one of the old-timers, like CA or 'khaan.

EDIT: and please, don't call your fellow players "stupid". Thank you

[Thermal]

i didnt refer to anyone as stupid, i said if you can't see signs like telling others to role block people to deflect attention off of your self, amongst the other things i said, it is a bit stupid if you don't pick up on these signs, that is all

[Thermal]

Yep, I think we should lynch one and then roleblock the other. At the rate townies are being killed, we have to knock out the mafia as quickly as we can!

if i was mafia i too would be participating much more like andres is, only i'm playing in my usual lapsy daisy manner, you know the chances of me being mafia are low anyway i see players like boudica have avoided any suspicion at all in these stages

[Thermal]

Interesting choices for the mafia kills...

Vote: QJC

Just a feeling here...

just a feeling? and this voted for CA is even more unstable, don't come to me about random voting when these excuses are put into play, dam favoritism

[White_eyes:D]

1) several mafia families -> getting killed at night is not a guarantee for being innocent; it's very likely that a mafioso can get killed by a rival mafioso, ergo you are not confirmed innocent;
2) it's very, very coincidental that all three members of a "townie group" get killed on the first night;
3) combine 1) with 2) and I'd like to see somebody back-up your hard to believe-claim.
ATPG is Russian and Russian(s) seem to be pro-town from the N1 write-up, so preferably ATPG confirms or denies your statement.
@Aries : this is my normal/usual playstyle, but I have been busy the last few months, didn't have much time to participate at this level. Check the older games if you want, or ask one of the old-timers, like CA or 'khaan.
EDIT: and please, don't call your fellow players "stupid". Thank you

1)Well, ATPG can say whatever he wants(he IS trying to out fool the Mafia)(as am I) and I can lie to you all I want...but since everyone I trusted is dead....I.E. guys who I knew what there roles were or at least knew were Town...I don't need to reveal anything....(after all I could be Mafia.....)

3)When did I call you "stupid"? did I strike a Mafia cord in your mind???:

[Thermal]

i didnt refer to anyone as stupid, i said if you can't see signs like telling others to role block people to deflect attention off of your self, amongst the other things i said, it is a bit stupid if you don't pick up on these signs, that is all

do think how he may of related to me? he mis intrepreted at was all, though my efforts for town are largely ignored anyway

[Reenk Roink]

You should know all about his evil plotting....

Exactly.

Please, elaborate.

Read Quicktopic of Prometheus.

And then you had to go and make yourself look all suspicious. I mean, seriously, you're voting for Andres because he actually has something close to evidence, an inconsistency with Reenk's posting? Maybe you and Reenk are partners in crime.

What evidence do you see in Andres post? What inconsistency do you see in mine?

I suggest the role blocker blocks either Aries or Reenk Roink. Both are behaving suspicious.

Yep, I think we should lynch one and then roleblock the other. At the rate townies are being killed, we have to knock out the mafia as quickly as we can!

Why are you working together?

Unvote: seireikhaan
Vote: Chaotix27

Would have voted Andres first, but then realized five way tie means no lynching hopefully.

Vote tracker:

Glyphz
Andres (Reenk Roink)
Aries (Andres to Chaotix to Andres)
Sarathos
Reenk Roink (seireikhaan to Chaotix)
QJC
Bladeceath
Rythmic
Seireikhaan
Chaotix (Bladeceath to Aries)
CA (White Eyes to no vote)
boudica
YLC (QJC to CA)

Vote tally:

Andres: 1 (Aries)
Reenk Roink: 1 (Andres)
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
Aries: 1 (Chaotix)
CA: 1 (YLC)

[Chaotix]

Well, I would like to think that the town should be working together if we want to win.

But really, I just happen to share similar views with Andres, here.
Mostly, I think Aries is acting kind of frantic, which is unusual considering he is usually just silly and nonsensical. But here he's silly and nonsensical with a purpose- to not get lynched.

You're scum 'cause you tricked everyone in the Prometheus.

[Askthepizzaguy]

1) several mafia families -> getting killed at night is not a guarantee for being innocent; it's very likely that a mafioso can get killed by a rival mafioso, ergo you are not confirmed innocent;
2) it's very, very coincidental that all three members of a "townie group" get killed on the first night;
3) combine 1) with 2) and I'd like to see somebody back-up your hard to believe-claim.

ATPG is Russian and Russian(s) seem to be pro-town from the N1 write-up, so preferably ATPG confirms or denies your statement.

@Aries : this is my normal/usual playstyle, but I have been busy the last few months, didn't have much time to participate at this level. Check the older games if you want, or ask one of the old-timers, like CA or 'khaan.

EDIT: and please, don't call your fellow players "stupid". Thank you

I revealed nothing to anyone, and I can guarantee I didn't because I had long forgotten that I had even spoken to WhiteEyes. He's correct in that we tried to form a townie group (I randomly trusted him) However, the fact that I died suggests to me he might have been a mole. I wouldn't trust him anymore.

I don't know if he had anything to do with it, but I was a defender and I trusted him and I died right away. So anything he says, take it with a grain of salt (or preferably an antidote)

[Andres]

Would have voted Andres first, but then realized five way tie means no lynching hopefully.

Vote tracker:

Glyphz
Andres (Reenk Roink)
Aries (Andres to Chaotix to Andres)
Sarathos
Reenk Roink (seireikhaan to Chaotix)
QJC
Bladeceath
Rythmic
Seireikhaan
Chaotix (Bladeceath to Aries)
CA (White Eyes to no vote)
boudica
YLC (QJC to CA)

Vote tally:

Andres: 1 (Aries)
Reenk Roink: 1 (Andres)
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
Aries: 1 (Chaotix)
CA: 1 (YLC)

No lynch rounds don't get us anywhere. We won't get mafia if we don't lynch and at this pace, the town needs to take every opportunity it has to take out mafiosi.

Unvote : Reenk Roink;
Vote : Aries

Aries: 2 (Chaotix, Andres)
Andres: 1 (Aries)
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
CA: 1 (YLC)

And I suggest the role blocker to block Reenk Roink next night.

I heard rumours about the townie group not really being a townie group, but an attempt at fooling the mafia.

Or maybe the townie group really was a townie group and the mafia did get lucky...

Chew on that, mafiosi. You're not the only ones who can play mind games

White Eyes is no longer on my possible scum list at the moment.

EDIT: missed ATPG's post; White Eyes back on possible scum list.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd be interested to know who we can trust.

[Chaotix]

Do we even have an investigator for this game? If we do, then he wasn't active last night, that's for sure.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Its funny that I trust whiteeyes in one game, and not in another.

Its a wierd feeling both trusting and not trusting someone at the same time. Try it sometime.

[Chaotix]

Its funny that I trust whiteeyes in one game, and not in another.

Its a wierd feeling both trusting and not trusting someone at the same time. Try it sometime.

Heh. That was me during Prometheus, or don't you remember?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Heh. That was me during Prometheus, or don't you remember?

I seem to remember convincing you to kill yourself.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Okay, everyone. I have been speaking with the scum ATPG, and I believe I have learned something from his words, although he mentioned nothing directly and I was left to infer this for myself. No, I have not been converted.

In the very first sentence of this thread, Crazed Rabbit mentions that there is a gameplay mechanic that is not found in traditional mafias. This could simply be the convert mechanic that the mafia employs, however this has happened in other mafia games. Rather, I think that it is possible that there's no town victory condition. That if, in the event we do defeat the mafia, our load of precious chemicals will wind up being used for nukes or something, and we'll blow up the Earth. Then there'll be no winner, cause we'll all be dead. Perhaps the only way there can be a victory is if it is for mafia. And in that case, it would be in our every interest to join the mafia.

Now, I'm not saying that you should believe this, or even that I necessarily believe it myself. It's just, the more I think about it, the more it seems likely that CR would play a sick trick on us in the event that we won . That, and ATPG left me with a cryptic comment, although he could just as easily be lying: "If you would just lay down your arms, you would attain victory."

I think that we need to discuss this, and whether or not we want to follow it or not. Maybe we should have a vote on it.

I will treasure this post until I am old and gray.

[TevashSzat]

Okay......I didn't understand what happened at all just then. Way too confusing, but I'll try to get through it....

Anyways, FOS: Aries He posted just way too many times in a row/ in a short time and seems to be a bit panicky

[CountArach]

@Aries : this is my normal/usual playstyle, but I have been busy the last few months, didn't have much time to participate at this level. Check the older games if you want, or ask one of the old-timers, like CA or 'khaan.

I can definitely confirm this. He started to play like this about a year ago (Before that he was less decisive).

I shall Vote: Aries for two reasons.

The first is the voting towards the start of the day phase where he just chose people who had a vendetta against him personally. I don't see why that should be enough to convince me that the person is worthy of lynching.

The second reason is an extension on the above where he voted for Andres this round, unsurprisingly because Andres was pointing out the other flaws in his play.

[Thermal]

Okay......I didn't understand what happened at all just then. Way too confusing, but I'll try to get through it....

Anyways, FOS: Aries He posted just way too many times in a row/ in a short time and seems to be a bit panicky

i posted each of my points separately and it isn't hard to understand what just happened if you try reading

[Thermal]

The second reason is an extension on the above where he voted for Andres this round, unsurprisingly because Andres was pointing out the other flaws in his play.

I don't remember Andres ever picking fault with me at all, you should have included that to back him up with as well it was me who accused him, of a playing style i wasn't aware he was accustom to

unvote
vote: aries777777


i'm quite useless to town anyway, ok so it is a townie kill, but i don't have any spectacular role or anything, so much better than lynching a vigilant or investigator i would think

[Andres]

Read Quicktopic of Prometheus.

Okay, 'khaan demonstrated his abilities as a mafia mastermind in the Prometheus. And how exactly does that make his behaviour in this game suspicious?

Which post exactly caught your attention or what's so special about the kill choices that they remind you of 'khaan in the Prometheus?

unvote
vote: aries777777


i'm quite useless to town anyway, ok so it is a townie kill, but i don't have any spectacular role or anything, so much better than lynching a vigilant or investigator i would think

Voting yourself is usually seen as scummy behaviour.

Also the "oh well, I'm just a townie, lynch me if you must" attitude is not very convincing at this stage of the current round. Add to that the fact that you did all you could to save your own skin so far.

[Thermal]

i've done this is previous games, i'm quite aware it doesnt have an effect oh "oh dear he must be innocent" i know i will be lynched anyway, the fact is i am townie, but don't mind being lynched, i wasn't giving access to question my motives, as there is no way to overcome the situation regardless, and you will see at least by the end that i'm telling the truth, and i mentioned nothing about i "did all you could to save your own skin so far." at all, though in fairness i have made a great deal more points than certain players, that would rather lurk, as mafia games at the org always consist of players that avoid discussion which survive, but just to show i'm not looking for sympathy
lynch me im mafia*

there (though i do think its pathetic how non contributors avoid suspicion day in day out!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

*size 7 writing should be ignored

[White_eyes:D]

Its funny that I trust whiteeyes in one game, and not in another.

Its a wierd feeling both trusting and not trusting someone at the same time. Try it sometime.

I didn't leak anything......You wanted to talk to the Mafia remember? I proved I was not scum be sending something to you.....I still think you helped leak something or someone had a vendetta against me/us.....

Edit:so sad......both me and ATPG wanted to stab town in the back or each other in this case....

[Beefy187]

Mysterious post on the watcher news paper


Disregard every message that comes to you except from The Watcher. I will also make sure to tell you if any fakes show up.


Askthepizzaguy was innocent, both by The Watcher's investigation and by kill. It is pointless theorizing about him.

Bladeceath is going to die unless he posts sometime this round.

And Sarathos

[Yoyoma1910]

It is true. White Eyes and I have been working together for years. Not only in game, but in RL. We own our own detective agency in El Paso, where we investigate kidnappings and unfaithful spouses. His real life name is Randal MacNattie, and mine is Miguel Diaz. Obviously after 15 years of having to smell each others car funk, you grow somewhat combative with your language, and I can now see this is coming through occasionally in our posts.


Also, I would like to say, for the record, the Mr. "White Eyes" here told me his In Game role:

He was the caretaker of the town sewer system. He was highly unattractive, but had the ability to investigate one person per night through the fragrance of the waste their domicile emitted. If you don't beleive me, just ask him.