speaking of lethality, what is the most lethal weapon of all?Close combat weapons not ranged
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speaking of lethality, what is the most lethal weapon of all?
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Probably either the Thraikian Rhomphaia or the Indian axe/sword/thingymabob that those guild warriors use.
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ok so how can i tell how strong a unit is without having to do all that reasoning?
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welllllllll, generally the unit description is very helpful and trial and error is perhaps the best way but the rule of thumb is swords = high lethality, spears = low lethality.
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The Uncircumcised Wrathe of a Gaesatae's +9 Staff of Penetration - 100% LethalOriginally Posted by Onehandstan
speaking of lethality, what is the most lethal weapon of all?
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you can add the extra rule: the letality increaces with lenth and strangenes.
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Dagger/knife (like many crap slingers and archers wield) - 0.04
War-club (some Germans, Africans) - 0.09 IIRC (also -1 attack value, AP)
Short sword - 0.1 (also +2 attack value)
*Good* short sword (eg. gladius hispaniensis) - 0.13 (and +2 attack)
Spear (over- and underhand) - 0.125 (+1 attack, "light_spear" weapon attribute funk)
Xiphos (Greek mid-sized sword and similar) - 0.13 (+1 attack)
Sica (Thraco-Dacian funky curvy blade) - ditto
Kopis/falcata/machaira (concave-curved "recurve sabre") - 0.11 (AP)
Axe/mace - 0.165 (-1 attack, AP)
Longsword - 0.225
Rhomphaia (the Indian longbowmens' big swords are treated as the same IIRC) - 0.26 IIRC (-something attack, AP; the Thracian peltasts' are slightly nerfed, as they're used one-handed)
Big two-handed sword (some Celts, Indians) - 0.285 (-something attack, AP)
Pikes had 0.15 IIRC, as do cavalry overhands. Cavalry underhand spears were 0.33, AP, 160 delay, xyston lances 0.38, AP, 180 delay and kontos lances 0.4, AP, 200 delay - and all had seriously low attack scores. IIRC.
So yeah, Ca Putt's rule of thumb works pretty well.
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Re: Attack and defense compare
The cavalry of course, their spears & lances have lethality as high as .35speaking of lethality, what is the most lethal weapon of all?
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