Noble Son... and two filths- Small Mafia [Concluded]

[White_eyes:D]

there goes Faction heirs back-up plan....

[ULC]

Second Consul Sara is still around though

[Beefy187]

Thank you White_Eyes from saving me from quad post

Now analysis and comments.

Firstly thank you all for joining this game. I hope you guys had lots of fun and I sure did.

Now like I said in the after math "The End... Never... Never again" I will not host another game like this. I WILL NOT!! Not that it wasn't fun. But amount of thoughts and effort I needed to put in each scene was rather extreme. Where in normal mafia, I simply have to reflect "Kill him, save him, investigate that", I had to work out what realistically would happen in one night, with out completely wrecking your orders or the game. Last scene I know wasn't realistic at all. As I simply picked the funniest to be the winner and slightly rigged the other two so they would lose. Strategically speaking, I thought Factionheir would win against Yoyoma, as Yoyoma never actually sent me a serious one. But YLC would win over all, for making a miraculous come back from a retreat.

Kudos however to Yoyoma who did include "make sure YLC did retreat... Check on him" in his order. Factionheir maybe did also, but I cannot remember.

Now I want to look back what happened each night..

Night one

White_Eyes used his one man kill ability and killed off Aries Unfortunately that was it for Aries.

Night what ever

Lord Winter was exiled. He done no action ever since.

Night what ever

Prince YLC was exiled. He seemed to have fled to some city state

Turning point of the game

QJCs crew had a hit on White_eyes. But because of his ability, he was able to avoid the attack. That night, White_Eyes killed Shlin my favorite. but he was witnessed by Factionheir and Shlin. Now he should've been jailed.. And that is my first mistake.. Instead he was exiled.

Plan to make a council

This is the part where everything starting to turn to wierd direction. Regardless of me and White_Eyes effort to make them kill each other, with the exception of few rumors, none of them were killing each other. With addition, YLC made a first appearance. With me going with it and shooting arrow at him, kinda set something in the wrong direction.

White_Eyes vs the captain

Now I had too much fun here writing the battle scene. Not knowing that this is going to be the first of the hundred or so battle I had to write for this game. This led to White_Eyes victory... Just to encourage to princes to kill each other. But instead they united against me, nagging me for a battle. Now just as I was going to give the rest of the princes, the first prize...

Betrayal of QJC

I really applaud him for that. That changed the tied of the game, forcing the princes to continue to doubt each other. However, QJC was too nice to go on White_Eyes like Rampage. His night in the cellar wasted his life while Factionheir found out that QJC was the one who betrayed them.

Yoyomas journey

Other then the main plot, I had a lot of fun writing Yoyomas voyage out side the palace. His mention of alarm clock created the invention of Amazonian people of fridge. And cow lovers of Cafe Late. I was willing to let him go on to get a army, big enough to smash YLC but...

YLCs retreat

Because of White_eyes 'death' and YLCs 'computer problem' (geez computer does not exist in middle ages) YLCs army retreated. Giving Yoyoma no opportunity for a glorious entry. Forcing him to join the party.

Last battle

Which led to the last battle. Factionheir started with 4 pms in a row, detailed tactical plan. But with my CBF attitude and pleasure of TV, I changed the victory condition to the funniest. And Yoyomas plan was the funniest. Factionheirs was the most realistic. I was willing to give them a 50 50 chance until YLC gave me a pm saying "HAha that was my plan all along. I will continue my tunnel and give them a surprise attack!!" Which led to the three way battle.

Final judgement

Now this bothered me the most. As I did not want any of them to complain about the finale. I first thought about making a poll for the funniest plan. Or a first Beefdoms Idol contest where three of them talk about their charm point and what they will do for Beefdom. And people who ascended to heaven can judge them. But due to the constant warning saying "Your pm is almost full" plus the constant pressure from ATPG I had to finish the game somehow. And thus the judgment.

Reflections

This was a intense and good game. It might work if I can start this from the very start. But because I didnt give the same opportunity to peoples like Shlin and Aries who missed out all the fun, my first objective was actually finish this game earliest as possible. Other wise, I wouldn't have let QJC die in that horrible fire, or let White_Eyes do a suicide appearance just for the game play. I now clearly know that you guys are too nice to play by the original rule, and thus the original set of rules would not work. Thus this game will never appear on the org again unless someone alse wants to host similer ones. But because I didnt want any of the prince end up dead, amount of amendment which had to be made were... rather extreme. Satisfying everyone was extremely hard especially I got a slight mental retardation after hitting my self on a head with a tree and a chain 30 minutes ago..

I know not everyone is satisfied about how the game turned out, specially the sudden death of YLC and QJC, also the death of Shlin. But I want you all to know that I tried my best..... Ok I putted like 80 percent effort in there, so please don't come after me with a big axe.

Again I thank you for joining this game. For bearing with half gibrish half engrish and I hope you enjoyed it. see you around.... In fillet royale!!

[Beefy187]

Now Yoyoma only has to deal with Pizza guys left over, Second council Sarah who holds grudge against Yoyoma for killing YLC, White_Eyes fan club and Factionheirs little kiddy Luke.... Along with Sarathos you kick ass clan. and House of Schling (Its actually the name of the boarding house I was in.. Thus why I was 25 percent bias towards Shlin)

[Yoyoma1910]

Well then, good people of Beefdom, and those who have sadly perished so that our kingdom would remain strong, we shall seek to make decent this world around us.


The good Kingdom of Pizza lies upon the horizon. Let us open our trade links with these noble people, so that delicious peace may reign for eternity. We shall send emissaries carrying gifts of cheeses and Italian spiced meatballs for the good King Guy de Pizza.

In honor of Prince Sarathos, good son of King Beefy and noble Lady Sara, our largest port city shall be renamed. May the ships of Sarathos the city be as brave as he were.

Faction Heir was a great man, and I shall honor him and his potent loins. The Royal Orphanage shall from now on bear his name. Hotel FactionHeir shall raise the Kingdoms children whose parents have passed on. They shall be grown strong and well learned in these walls.

As I have previously stated, this great capitol city needs a grand thoroughfare, Rue Champs Eldiablo shall be a street known the world over.

As for our brother Quintus, who mysteriously died defending our realm in a fire. All royally approved doorknobs shall bear his visage. Remeber if there is a fire to check the temperature of the doorknob before entering a room.

For the Lord of Winter, I name the coldest of the four seasons. For he has turned an icy shoulder to our kingdom, wherever he may be.

Our royal graveyard needs a good title. Frere Aries House of 77777 Nonzombies seems appropriate.

Our Largest Catapult shall be named the YLC, and our second the Sara. So that they know the names of their targets.


To the city of Fridge, I shall build a Academy of War and Philosophy, where the soldiers of Beefdom shall study the arts of war and Amazonian arms, as well as pondering of this strange quest called life. And to the Granny of Fridge I grant a title of Marquise. May she still have all the men.

To the good people of Cafe Late, I shall build a Grand Lodge of Huntsmen and Agriculture, where our nations archers, huntsmen, and farmers shall go to learn of their skills. May our bows be long, our game wild, and our cattle fat.

To the House of Shling, whose son was Beefy's favourite, I grant them the Priestships of his temples. May they lead us to good prayer for all the ages.



As for he that was the serpent and deceiver of princes... he that was once known as White Eyes. All towns in Beefdom shall have a park for the purpose of dog walking, and in this park shall stand a 1 1/2 foot (.5 meter) statue of this half man, for the alleviation of the canines bladders.


Other than that, yo yos and beefsteaks for all.

[White_eyes:D]

Wow, I would have a statue erected to me? anyway, Yoyoma you owe me at least a movie or something for my part on killing ALOT of princes name it..."The Beefinator"
Hey, it's for the fans.....

[Thermal]

coinceantially my name at the TWC is Zombie smuggler and i think he was refering to me being zombie on a post where i fooled some people into thinking you can chose to revive me or shlin on beefys order

[ULC]

Our Largest Catapult shall be named the YLC, and our second the Sara. So that they know the names of their targets.

Could you clarify on this? You seriously don't intend to kill the lovely Consul Sara with a catapult, do you?

[Beefy187]

Oh one more thing

Factionheirs unhonourable award

Food waster award: Awarded to those who excel in bio weaponary. Who knew that Factionheir had something regarding food in every single order of his? If not most of them. Specially chucking meat chunks at his enemies.. What a waste Even if its lamb

[Yoyoma1910]

Could you clarify on this? You seriously don't intend to kill the lovely Consul Sara with a catapult, do you?

If she tries to invade Beefdom in the name of liberty, than I shall liberate the air from her lungs and her heart from its bosom.


Other than that, may she live a long a fruitful life in peace.




But don't worry, you shall live on in more than projectile weapons. To commemorate the victory of Beefdom against your city states the flag of our kingdom will have an additional emblem, dear cousin. A Yo Yo breaking one of your nation's spears in half.

Yours was the strongest threat to our nation, and you did achieve the final death.

Your sword now hangs in the royal hall, high for all to see. Defeating you was a great and hard victory for our people.

I would honor you further, but you died a citizen, and not a prince. Your war against our nation was a smear upon the ideals you claimed to represent.

Wow, I would have a statue erected to me? anyway, Yoyoma you owe me at least a movie or something for my part on killing ALOT of princes name it..."The Beefinator"
Hey, it's for the fans.....

Fear not, I have commissioned a play about you. But it is far closer to Richard III or Macbeth than The Terminator. All the nation shall see it, and witness how greed and unrighteous lust for power will make fall into darkness the lives of men.

[White_eyes:D]

Fear not, I have commissioned a play about you. But it is far closer to Richard III or Macbeth than The Terminator. All the nation shall see it, and witness how greed and unrighteous lust for power will make fall into darkness the lives of men.

Good....hopefully my name well live on in infamy that is all I ask.....

[Quintus.JC]

Turning point of the game

QJCs crew had a hit on White_eyes. But because of his ability, he was able to avoid the attack. That night, White_Eyes killed Shlin my favorite. but he was witnessed by Factionheir and Shlin. Now he should've been jailed.. And that is my first mistake.. Instead he was exiled.

At that time Sarathos and Yoyoma approached me as the third man in their team, at the time I was the least suspicious and active so I took the job of murdering white eyes, but it wasn't successful.

Betrayal of QJC

I really applaud him for that. That changed the tied of the game, forcing the princes to continue to doubt each other. However, QJC was too nice to go on White_Eyes like Rampage. His night in the cellar wasted his life while Factionheir found out that QJC was the one who betrayed them.

The game was dragging on, all the princes seems too cautious to make a move, they all had their own ambitions but thought cooperation was the best way to defeat YLC and White eyes. I gave away the battle plan so the City states won the battle. When Beefy made solo kills available, I wasn't sure how the princes would react, wether they would keep the council or each of them starting to go on murdering ramages. For personal safety I hid in the cellar and decided to wait and see how the night goes past, obviously that was a big mistake....

[FactionHeir]

Oh one more thing

Factionheirs unhonourable award

Food waster award: Awarded to those who excel in bio weaponary. Who knew that Factionheir had something regarding food in every single order of his? If not most of them. Specially chucking meat chunks at his enemies.. What a waste Even if its lamb

You gotta admit by battle plan was really wicked, no?

[Yoyoma1910]

Good....hopefully my name well live on in infamy that is all I ask.....

More like a Dramedy. The people of this nation need a something good to laugh at. I contracted a certain Sir. Woody Allen to pen the work. Here's some of what he has put down on paper:


Oh... my mother was a prostitute, you know. Eh, nobody loves me... Guess I'll, uh, just have to go and ..uh... kill everyone then. Eh.

[White_eyes:D]

More like a Dramedy. The people of this nation need a something good to laugh at. I contracted a certain Sir. Woody Allen to pen the work. Here's some of what he has put down on paper:


Oh... my mother was a prostitute, you know. Eh, nobody loves me... Guess I'll, uh, just have to go and ..uh... kill everyone then. Eh.

Yeah but then my 'fan club' would do a 'REAL version of it', Hell, after that people would even be afraid to WALK then dogs near my statue.......(BTW, that script really sucks.....guess you should have contacted a better writer....)

[Tiberius of the Drake]

Outsiders perspective: Im sorry I missed this

This game me laugh, cry, piss my pants, laugh and then scratch my head in confusion. Props to YLC who threw the wrench in the system to begin with. props to Beefy for dealing with the confusion. If this game wasnt over I was hoping to make a cameo asthe "mercenary leader".
finally I have one thing to say

PLEASE MAKE A SEQUEL,
If not Beefy someone else. Im really sad i missed out on this.

Oh Also:

VOTE: Funniest and most confusing Mafia game

[Beefy187]

Outsiders perspective: Im sorry I missed this

This game me laugh, cry, piss my pants, laugh and then scratch my head in confusion. Props to YLC who threw the wrench in the system to begin with. props to Beefy for dealing with the confusion. If this game wasnt over I was hoping to make a cameo asthe "mercenary leader".
finally I have one thing to say

PLEASE MAKE A SEQUEL,
If not Beefy someone else. Im really sad i missed out on this.

Oh Also:

VOTE: Funniest and most confusing Mafia game

I suppose this was quite similar to the Castle if you ever played that game except there was alot more freedom in what players can do.

Thanks for the compliment. As for the sequel... If I can skip the que and start a new 12 player one then im more then happy to host it. Now I know how to deal with most of it. And if that happens, ill let you know

[ULC]

I suppose this was quite similar to the Castle if you ever played that game except there was alot more freedom in what players can do.

Thanks for the compliment. As for the sequel... If I can skip the que and start a new 12 player one then im more then happy to host it. Now I know how to deal with most of it. And if that happens, ill let you know

I could actually work out a system for you from scratch Beefy, and would only be to happy too. I thoroughly enjoyed coming up with those plans and all

[Beefy187]

I could actually work out a system for you from scratch Beefy, and would only be to happy too. I thoroughly enjoyed coming up with those plans and all

Yea. Hardest part was coming out with a system to limit stuff like night actions. Also on the later stages, amount of troops and their quality was completely improvised.

If you have a solution to those stuff, I would be very interested to know.

But I guess some improvisation is still needed.

[Quintus.JC]

A sequel would be nice, but I don't want to see it in 2008 yet.

[Yoyoma1910]

Beefy Total War 2

Should CA release this as their next game after Empire?

[Quintus.JC]

We've got 12 playable factions, additional independent city states, also the Kingdom of Pizza lay on the North. Should be fun.

[Tiberius of the Drake]

Yes and the independent amazonian cow lovers

[Quintus.JC]

Yes and the independent amazonian cow lovers

Yes course, how on earth could I forget them?

[Beefy187]

We'll see about the sequel.. I should be able to host sometime in March next year. If I get rejected from the Uni im applying for.

If I get in... I'll still try to host anyway. I'm never leaving the Org!

[Thermal]

I'll still try to host anyway. I'm never leaving the Org!

woo-hoo

[Beefy187]

woo-hoo

This is not at all, an attempt to stop you getting your record Ares

Around 30 post until Teddy snatcher beats this

Should I make the next one more of cut throat inheritance or massive inner country battle war thing on the second half of the game?

[White_eyes:D]

This is not at all, an attempt to stop you getting your record Ares

Around 30 post until Teddy snatcher beats this

Should I make the next one more of cut throat inheritance or massive inner country battle war thing on the second half of the game?

No kidding, you SHOULD reward those who go more cutthroat though....(I hate it when people begin to work too much together and forget there working to see who is King not who is the slave...) If you do go cut throat......

[Beefy187]

Yea the idea was to work with the fellow..... and DUMP HIM at the very end. Its like a chicken race when you betray your friend.

Obviously our princes were too cooperative and all.

I could do a similar game with this time, 12 king who work for Beefdom, fighting each other for the next kingship. That would be interesting.

[ULC]

Actually, the system I am working out would allow either cooperation and backstabbing, and a reward system based on the players actions - the more points gained for both successful cooperation and backstabbing, the more successful they become in other areas such as battle or in future actions. Points would be gained based on complexity and overall intelligence of the plan.

Of course this excluded sillyness, but I'm not sure how to score jokes